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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908108
07/17/23 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
I saw some pics you posted of crossovers and BGs you posted a few weeks ago.

And footholds.


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Boco] #7908111
07/17/23 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
I take 90% of my nuisance beaver with bodygrips.
100% of fur beaver.

It's great that you can. That indicates to me that those beaver have not been educated by uneducated trappers.


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908115
07/17/23 11:19 PM
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No,I take a lot of educated beaver with bodygrips.
Some of the most effective sets to take educated beaver are with bodygrips.
You need good chestwaders however.


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908116
07/17/23 11:23 PM
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For many years I did not even set a single foothold for beaver. Conibears were all I used. Some of those years were 500+ beaver catches.


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: beaverpeeler] #7908123
07/17/23 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
For many years I did not even set a single foothold for beaver. Conibears were all I used. Some of those years were 500+ beaver catches.

Thats a pile of beaver,BP.
My best catch was 455,almost all nuisance Off 600 miles of Railroad between April and December.A lot were skinned.
Normal nuisance catch on RR was 350-400.
Busting all the dams was the tough part,lol

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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908128
07/17/23 11:37 PM
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Im not sure what boco defines as a a “pressure set”, but fencing like that, like in that picture, might as well be a neon flashing sign saying “beaver beware” to the beavers that are the reason I get called and paid my price to make disappear. You may be able to catch a few doing that, but not the ones I am called to remove, at least it is so rare that you will waste a lot of time trying before it happens. Not saying you could not find a way to guide even an educated beaver, but why mess with all that when I can fully conceal a foothold where they are going to step? Matter of fact in my little world, if it weren’t for my ability chose a location and then conceal footholds in those locations, I would just be the latest trapper who could not solve the problem.

But then maybe boco has magic I don’t. If the Devil challenges me to a golden beaver trap duel, I will pass and keep my soul. I know I’m not the best there’s ever been.

Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908130
07/17/23 11:44 PM
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I choose a foothold to make sets along open banks with no brush.
Blind sets in deepwater are good for educated beaver.

It is just natural that northern trappers that trap year round will have a lot more ways to catch beaver than southern trappers who never learned to trap under ice.

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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908133
07/17/23 11:48 PM
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Yeah but blind foothold on shore is easier and faster. And I rarely even wear hip boots let alone drag around chest waders. It’s only natural that northern trappers who are used to ice don’t know how to make it easy in open water. We can still be friends.

Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908134
07/17/23 11:49 PM
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One set I have used with success on beavers that have been educated to bodygrips is what i call the diversion set.
I use the bodygrip to divert the beaver into a strategically placed foothold.
Works like a charm.
I might have a pic of it somewhere.

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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7908157
07/18/23 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
The challenge factor is that not all beavers react the same way. About the time you have something figured out, along comes a beaver and does the complete opposite of what you expected.

Ain't that the truth? Probably why they never went extinct 200-300 years ago.

Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Boco] #7908255
07/18/23 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
One set I have used with success on beavers that have been educated to bodygrips is what i call the diversion set.
I use the bodygrip to divert the beaver into a strategically placed foothold.
Works like a charm.
I might have a pic of it somewhere.

I could definitely divert some of these beavers by using an exposed 330.


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Boco] #7908259
07/18/23 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
One set I have used with success on beavers that have been educated to bodygrips is what i call the diversion set.
I use the bodygrip to divert the beaver into a strategically placed foothold.
Works like a charm.
I might have a pic of it somewhere.

That is interesting and know doubt it will work

Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908309
07/18/23 09:50 AM
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Y'all ever notice how everybody has the hardest beavers to catch? Just like coyote trappers say my ground is harder than your ground.

That being said, footholds for me wink


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: coondagger2] #7908314
07/18/23 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by coondagger2
Y'all ever notice how everybody has the hardest beavers to catch? Just like coyote trappers say my ground is harder than your ground.

That being said, footholds for me wink

You're on to me!!! Lol


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908330
07/18/23 10:44 AM
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It is the smell of lure and steel , imho
Only beaver that I come across that are trap shy have been kisses by steel once, or a old sow who’s litter all of a sudden disappeared
You can usually get her up stream as she travels to a old lodge
It seems otherwise they are rocks.


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Vinke] #7908359
07/18/23 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Vinke
It is the smell of lure and steel , imho
Only beaver that I come across that are trap shy have been kisses by steel once, or a old sow who’s litter all of a sudden disappeared
You can usually get her up stream as she travels to a old lodge
It seems otherwise they are rocks.

Lure is next to useless at many jobs here (as are above waterline/visible BGs and sometimes snares.) I still put in at least one lured set (a slicked up mound set) at most nuisance locations...just to "test" the waters, so to speak.

The brood females(s) are usually the last ones captured. It is a relief to get her first.


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908363
07/18/23 11:35 AM
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Paul Dobbins has indicated great success using lure(oil stones) for hard to catch beaver.


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908366
07/18/23 11:39 AM
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WTH is an oil stone?


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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908375
07/18/23 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by ToCatchAPredator
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Beaver don’t necessarily tend to be spooked by dead beaver in channels. This was a week ago

Beaver stuck in footholds that don’t drown have attracted beaver before and other time spooked other beavers from that whole shore line. I think it depends if that beaver has been whacked by a trap before or not

I'd catch zero beaver here in the deep South with sets like that^^^

These beavs down here don't play that fencing with a bodygrip at their dam.


These two were working that patch as I was setting footholds. Went to the truck and set them up in between the sticks and blocked it where I needed to add some. They were both there less than 12 hours later. I set like that because I knew they were going to go through it, and both did with sticks stuck in their mouth.

No need for people on here to belittle my work, I still caught the problem beaver in less than 12 hours, and still got paid. So what doesn’t work for others is probably just application or subject matter. Everything has its applications. Have something in your back pocket for everything, and keep that memory in your front pocket to prove the hecklers wrong

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Re: For Nuisance Beaver..Is It Better??? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7908382
07/18/23 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
A 330 on a crossover here, especially in summer, is about as useless as teats on a boar hog.

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Really I would beg to differ, caught this 51.7 lb breading female first night in this 330 crossover set to the stream on the other side with a #4 and the 47lb breading male on the bank slide of the cross over

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