No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
New Planning/Zoning Ordinance...Thoughts? #7919493
08/03/23 10:21 AM
08/03/23 10:21 AM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,312
NC - Here there and everywhere
C
coondagger2 Offline OP
"Brat"
coondagger2  Offline OP
"Brat"
C

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,312
NC - Here there and everywhere
So this Friday the county I live in here in NC is voting on a new ordinance that is expected to pass. It has kind of blown up on social media and maybe gotten a little more attention than they had intended.

Paraphrasing, it says that a track of land must be more than 5 acres to be subdivided. So if I own 4 acres, I can't sell my brother two acres for him to build a house.

I understand the goal of this is to slow the development that we are seeing, but I don't see how this impacts that? Large developments are always on bigger tracks of land, so this ordinance won't affect them. This ordinance also does not apply within the city limits, only in the county. I'm having trouble seeing how this doesn't do anything but further hinder the common man without affecting the developers.

Thoughts?


Gotta live up to the nickname...
Re: New Planning/Zoning Ordinance...Thoughts? [Re: coondagger2] #7919500
08/03/23 10:38 AM
08/03/23 10:38 AM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 9,059
Henderson, N.Y. Jefferson Co.
W
walleyed Offline
trapper
walleyed  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 9,059
Henderson, N.Y. Jefferson Co.
Contact coonman for advice about how to deal with
governmental agencies affecting your private property rights !!! laugh

w


"Provisional/Interim" member of NYSTA

"I Support Non-Resident Trapping"



Re: New Planning/Zoning Ordinance...Thoughts? [Re: coondagger2] #7919513
08/03/23 10:56 AM
08/03/23 10:56 AM
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 2,773
Missouri
H
HayDay Offline
trapper
HayDay  Offline
trapper
H

Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 2,773
Missouri
Depends on where you live, but county where I live has planning and zoning, and area where I live in this county is zoned for Ag use and minimum lot size is 10 acres. Can't divide smaller than that. County where I grew up has no zoning and you can pretty much do whatever you want to there.

Sounds like where OP lives has decided to start implementing some zoning type restrictions. Some of it makes sense........like not allowing 160 acres to be subdivided into 320 half acre lots when there are no roads or utilities to serve 320 lots. Other areas have those rules so control freaks get to run things. I know one guy who never belonged to a homeowner's association he didn't want to be president of. He tends to be a jerk about it.


Easy to vote your way into socialism, but impossible to vote your way out of it.
Re: New Planning/Zoning Ordinance...Thoughts? [Re: coondagger2] #7919563
08/03/23 11:54 AM
08/03/23 11:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 9,766
Alaska and Washington State
W
waggler Offline
trapper
waggler  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 9,766
Alaska and Washington State
If the minimum lot size I guess I can understand their logic. But if they would let you subdivide 6 acres into 12 half acre lots, then that doesn't seems right.
5 acre minimum would mean you would need at least 10 acres to then subdivide.
What is the proposed minimum lot size?


"My life is better than your vacation"
Re: New Planning/Zoning Ordinance...Thoughts? [Re: coondagger2] #7919568
08/03/23 12:01 PM
08/03/23 12:01 PM
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 11,262
Indiana
P
Providence Farm Offline
trapper
Providence Farm  Offline
trapper
P

Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 11,262
Indiana
More power to government and more restrictions on the people is never a good thing. It always claims to be for the good and it always creeps and gets more and more restrictive over time.

Re: New Planning/Zoning Ordinance...Thoughts? [Re: coondagger2] #7919575
08/03/23 12:05 PM
08/03/23 12:05 PM
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 20,972
Green County Wisconsin
G
GREENCOUNTYPETE Offline
trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 20,972
Green County Wisconsin
here many townships have a minimum 5,10,15,20 acres to make them buildable

you can divide them up all you want but you can't build anything if you haven't the land to do it

you need room for a septic field

it helps to keep the township rural-ish
if you want to build on 1/2 acre lots you need to form a village or annex into a village or city


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: New Planning/Zoning Ordinance...Thoughts? [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7919580
08/03/23 12:12 PM
08/03/23 12:12 PM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 20,397
pa
H
hippie Offline
trapper
hippie  Offline
trapper
H

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 20,397
pa
Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
here many townships have a minimum 5,10,15,20 acres to make them buildable

you can divide them up all you want but you can't build anything if you haven't the land to do it

you need room for a septic field

it helps to keep the township rural-ish
if you want to build on 1/2 acre lots you need to form a village or annex into a village or city





Pretty much the dame here...need i 1 acre to build on

Re: New Planning/Zoning Ordinance...Thoughts? [Re: hippie] #7919585
08/03/23 12:23 PM
08/03/23 12:23 PM
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 20,972
Green County Wisconsin
G
GREENCOUNTYPETE Offline
trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 20,972
Green County Wisconsin
Originally Posted by hippie
Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
here many townships have a minimum 5,10,15,20 acres to make them buildable

you can divide them up all you want but you can't build anything if you haven't the land to do it

you need room for a septic field

it helps to keep the township rural-ish
if you want to build on 1/2 acre lots you need to form a village or annex into a village or city





Pretty much the dame here...need i 1 acre to build on

10 and 15 is getting more common , people who live in a township don't want a neighbor 50 feet over

where my brother is it is 3 acre minimum
my inlaws were 1 acre and they have a neighbor 50 feet from either side of the house

if you go one acre here they will ring every single farm field with 100 foot wide 435 foot deep lots and in a few years be petitioning the county to drop the speed limit to 25 on the county road

Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 08/03/23 12:29 PM.

America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: New Planning/Zoning Ordinance...Thoughts? [Re: coondagger2] #7919588
08/03/23 12:30 PM
08/03/23 12:30 PM
Joined: May 2021
Posts: 178
New Jersey
CJonesFTA Offline
trapper
CJonesFTA  Offline
trapper

Joined: May 2021
Posts: 178
New Jersey
The town I lived in previously here in NJ, had a 10 acre minimum to subdivide, unless grandfathered in. Frankly, it was one of the things I loved about the town, and the property. I owned 8 acres, and it was easy to see what the neighbors owned around me, and know what could/couldn't be subdivided or built on etc. But this was also a town of 1600 residents, scattered across 39ish square acres.


Cristina Jones
Fur Takers of America
www.furtakersofamerica.com
Re: New Planning/Zoning Ordinance...Thoughts? [Re: coondagger2] #7919590
08/03/23 12:30 PM
08/03/23 12:30 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 12,861
NWWA/AZ
Vinke Online content
trapper
Vinke  Online Content
trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 12,861
NWWA/AZ
I am on 320
Minimum is 40 ac
County is mostly 5 ac with some being 1 ac
It was intended to not allow city’s to speak to the county and remove land from production

Has not worked very well
County south of me
Home has to be set back 425 ft to obtain a building permit in rural area

I like it
I do not want a small city in the middle of farm ground
Smells, noise and redneck do not mix well with city morons


Ant Man/ Marty 2028
Vinke/ Coonman for press Secretary��..

Re: New Planning/Zoning Ordinance...Thoughts? [Re: coondagger2] #7919628
08/03/23 01:04 PM
08/03/23 01:04 PM
Joined: Sep 2021
Posts: 22
Fountain, MN
C
Coulee Coyote Offline
trapper
Coulee Coyote  Offline
trapper
C

Joined: Sep 2021
Posts: 22
Fountain, MN
Township I grew up in you had to own 80 acres to build a house. Current township you only need 5 acres BUT you can only have 1 house per 1/4 - 1/4 section. So if you own the whole 1/4-1/4 section except for a half acre your neighbor owns and they already have a home there your screwed.

Re: New Planning/Zoning Ordinance...Thoughts? [Re: hippie] #7919651
08/03/23 01:29 PM
08/03/23 01:29 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,312
NC - Here there and everywhere
C
coondagger2 Offline OP
"Brat"
coondagger2  Offline OP
"Brat"
C

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,312
NC - Here there and everywhere
Originally Posted by hippie
Pretty much the dame here...need i 1 acre to build on

That's how it is here now. You have to have an acre. So in the past if you had 5 acres, and it would pass a perc test in 5 areas (unlikely here), you could build 5 houses on it. Not anymore


Gotta live up to the nickname...
Re: New Planning/Zoning Ordinance...Thoughts? [Re: coondagger2] #7919656
08/03/23 01:34 PM
08/03/23 01:34 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,312
NC - Here there and everywhere
C
coondagger2 Offline OP
"Brat"
coondagger2  Offline OP
"Brat"
C

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,312
NC - Here there and everywhere
I'll also add that the going rate for land here is around $20,000 per acre, so 5 acres would cost you $100,000


Gotta live up to the nickname...
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread