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Re: School me on politics
[Re: WI Outdoors]
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09/01/23 10:15 AM
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randall brannon
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Everyone blames the sitting president during bad times no matter who it is. How much power does a president even have? Isn't congress more important? Does a president have the ability to apppint staff to help his party, or is everything voted on by the people. Excuse my ignorance. It was not Congress that decided to shut down Pipelines and cancel Oil Leases!!! It was not Congress that took away our energy independence!! It was not Congress that decided to open the Border. It was not Congress that decided to give FEMA the job of SUPPORTING these Illegals Financially. It was not Congress that decided to let these Illegals attend schools without any Immunizations. Shall I keep going?? I can!!!
God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
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Re: School me on politics
[Re: loosegoose]
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09/01/23 10:35 AM
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The Constitution grants the most powers to the he legislative branch, by far. The PEOPLE
have unfortunately given up a lot of their powers over the years, and NEED. to take back the reins. Fixed it for you.
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Re: School me on politics
[Re: WI Outdoors]
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09/01/23 11:42 AM
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Re: School me on politics
[Re: WI Outdoors]
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09/01/23 11:51 AM
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In the beginning the States had most of the power. That was the big fight the framers fought. Much of this changed due to the illegally ratified fourteenth amendment ( The States make the Changes to the U.S. Constitution) and judges making rulings that favor more Federal power. In the end the people of the U.S. continually support security over freedom and this is why they seem to want a king.
The thing you bring up I find interesting is the perception of things being good or bad in America. Seems people can convince themselves unrealistically that things are worse or better than they really are based on if their guy is President or the other guy is President.
Last edited by Dirt; 09/01/23 12:04 PM.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: School me on politics
[Re: WI Outdoors]
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09/01/23 11:59 AM
09/01/23 11:59 AM
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HayDay
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Everyone blames the sitting president during bad times no matter who it is. How much power does a president even have? Isn't congress more important? Does a president have the ability to apppint staff to help his party, or is everything voted on by the people. Excuse my ignorance. Not sure if you are truly ignorant or just trolling, but in answer to your question, presidential powers overwhelm them all. So you got your legislative branch, which legislates and in theory controls the purse strings (decides how money is spent......how much and where). But aside from that, the legislative branch is a toothless hound. They have no enforcement powers. The president does. In theory, if a president goes rogue, they can remove him, but never have. Nixon was the closest and he quit on is own. Current senate democrats would never vote to impeach Biden no matter what he did. You have your judicial branch, but the judges are appointed by the president, and he also controls the DOJ, all federal law enforcement and military. So if all else fails, and the courts don't rule in your favor, just ignore them and do what you want anyway. Current administration is now doing that routinely. You also have the 4th branch of government.......the press, which was granted broad watchdog powers to inform the public so they could correct bad actions at the ballot box. The role is so important, their freedom of speech is protected by 1st Amendment Rights, but if they are on one side, which they are, watchdog is out the window. Right now, the press (aka, fake news) either functions as lap dog or attack dog, so they are of no help. Some say the major news media is now the most corrupt institution in entire history of US. They wield that much power and routinely abuse it, yet there is little that can be done about it. So that brings us to the president........who probably controls 90% of the country in an administrative role. Other than legislative branch and Supreme court, they control it all. They run the entire apparatus of the federal government. They can reward or punish at will, and if press is on their side, can do so with impunity as current administration is doing today. It is a scary, scary thing to watch unfold.
Easy to vote your way into socialism, but impossible to vote your way out of it.
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Re: School me on politics
[Re: Guss]
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09/01/23 01:52 PM
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Congress should of been the ones who overturned roe VS Wade not the Supream Court. That is not how it works.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: School me on politics
[Re: WI Outdoors]
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09/01/23 02:34 PM
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The "swamp" has the most power, bar none.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: School me on politics
[Re: hippie]
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09/01/23 02:45 PM
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The "swamp" has the most power, bar none.
May be the most correct answer of all. Trump found that out the hard way. He gets elected again, that will be put to the test. He gets elected again the gloves are coming off.
Easy to vote your way into socialism, but impossible to vote your way out of it.
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Re: School me on politics
[Re: Dirt]
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09/01/23 04:30 PM
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Congress should of been the ones who overturned roe VS Wade not the Supream Court. That is not how it works. Yes it is Congress got the power courts don't! Look it up in the US Constitution.
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Re: School me on politics
[Re: WI Outdoors]
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09/01/23 05:32 PM
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I looked it up. "Congress shall have the power to create unenumerated rights and un-unenumerate them."
Who is John Galt?
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Re: School me on politics
[Re: WI Outdoors]
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09/01/23 07:09 PM
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Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends [life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness] it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government. -TJ
Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual. -TJ
The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases. -TJ
Washington called what we have today despotism
"It is important ... that ... those entrusted with its administration ... confine themselves within their respective constitutional spheres, avoiding in the exercise of the powers of one department any encroachment upon another.... The spirit of encroachment tends to consolidate the powers of all the departments in one, and thus to create ... a real despotism." - GW
John Adams said...
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
With quotes like this it is clear the Jefferson was a prophet
"Our government is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit, by consolidation first, and then corruption.... The engine of consolidation will be the federal judiciary; the two other branches the corrupting and corrupted instruments."
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Out govt has been overthrown by a wicked, godless, reprobate collective of despots and tyrants that have decided to turn our national sovereignty over to a world govt that wants everyone to die(climate change?) For the betterment of mankind. This is a satanic ritual taking place right in front of our faces, and no amount of voting, or politics will save our republic. It is already dead, when a political party arrest dissenters and political opponents we are being oppressed. GW said it was despotism, TJ called it tyranny, and the declaration of independence says we should end it
What's happening in this nation will only continue as long as we, the Civil Power allow it.
I'm fed up - Ken Smith
Matthew 7:6 KJV
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine....
-OFBA, NTA, FTA, TTFHA-
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Re: School me on politics
[Re: Ken Smith]
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09/01/23 08:56 PM
09/01/23 08:56 PM
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Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends [life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness] it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government. -TJ
Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual. -TJ
The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases. -TJ
Washington called what we have today despotism
"It is important ... that ... those entrusted with its administration ... confine themselves within their respective constitutional spheres, avoiding in the exercise of the powers of one department any encroachment upon another.... The spirit of encroachment tends to consolidate the powers of all the departments in one, and thus to create ... a real despotism." - GW
John Adams said...
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
With quotes like this it is clear the Jefferson was a prophet
"Our government is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit, by consolidation first, and then corruption.... The engine of consolidation will be the federal judiciary; the two other branches the corrupting and corrupted instruments."
----
Out govt has been overthrown by a wicked, godless, reprobate collective of despots and tyrants that have decided to turn our national sovereignty over to a world govt that wants everyone to die(climate change?) For the betterment of mankind. This is a satanic ritual taking place right in front of our faces, and no amount of voting, or politics will save our republic. It is already dead, when a political party arrest dissenters and political opponents we are being oppressed. GW said it was despotism, TJ called it tyranny, and the declaration of independence says we should end it
What's happening in this nation will only continue as long as we, the Civil Power allow it.
I'm fed up - Ken Smith Tremendous post, much respect!
Member - FTA
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Re: School me on politics
[Re: ky_coyote_hunter]
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09/01/23 09:02 PM
09/01/23 09:02 PM
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Posco
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Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends [life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness] it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government. -TJ
Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual. -TJ
The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases. -TJ
Washington called what we have today despotism
"It is important ... that ... those entrusted with its administration ... confine themselves within their respective constitutional spheres, avoiding in the exercise of the powers of one department any encroachment upon another.... The spirit of encroachment tends to consolidate the powers of all the departments in one, and thus to create ... a real despotism." - GW
John Adams said...
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
With quotes like this it is clear the Jefferson was a prophet
"Our government is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit, by consolidation first, and then corruption.... The engine of consolidation will be the federal judiciary; the two other branches the corrupting and corrupted instruments."
----
Out govt has been overthrown by a wicked, godless, reprobate collective of despots and tyrants that have decided to turn our national sovereignty over to a world govt that wants everyone to die(climate change?) For the betterment of mankind. This is a satanic ritual taking place right in front of our faces, and no amount of voting, or politics will save our republic. It is already dead, when a political party arrest dissenters and political opponents we are being oppressed. GW said it was despotism, TJ called it tyranny, and the declaration of independence says we should end it
What's happening in this nation will only continue as long as we, the Civil Power allow it.
I'm fed up - Ken Smith Tremendous post, much respect! Ditto.
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