Re: Auto engineers not very intelligent
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09/30/23 12:18 AM
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Whine all you want. Cars these days are much better than ever before. Sure some maintenance is more difficult, but consider the mileage and intervals.
If you don't like it move to Cuba, where they are still running classic1957 Chev's. Lol. My old truck is better than these newer ones.
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Re: Auto engineers not very intelligent
[Re: T-Rex]
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09/30/23 12:20 AM
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Who designs a vehicle where..... Beancounters! As for idiots; It is more likely to be the whiney consumer that the engineering team. I highly doubt that too. Look at all the lifter problems, oil consumption from using the wrong rings, etc. Etc. The list goes on and on.
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Re: Auto engineers not very intelligent
[Re: T-Rex]
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09/30/23 12:29 AM
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Whine all you want. Cars these days are much better than ever before. Sure some maintenance is more difficult, but consider the mileage and intervals.
If you don't like it move to Cuba, where they are still running classic1957 Chev's. Are they though? How many of today's cars or trucks are getting a million miles? 1990s Toyotas have.
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Re: Auto engineers not very intelligent
[Re: T-Rex]
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09/30/23 04:28 AM
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Whine all you want. Cars these days are much better than ever before. Sure some maintenance is more difficult, but consider the mileage and intervals.
If you don't like it move to Cuba, where they are still running classic1957 Chev's. in many ways they are but other ways they are not. They are over complicated with too much reliance on electronics. and the cost is to buy and maintain is ridiculous. see the attached youtube link, $5600 to replace a taillight on a ford f150 due to water leak. for that cost I can buy and install a brand new engine in an older truck. $5600 tailight on ford trucks.
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Re: Auto engineers not very intelligent
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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09/30/23 06:29 AM
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Whine all you want. Cars these days are much better than ever before. Sure some maintenance is more difficult, but consider the mileage and intervals.
If you don't like it move to Cuba, where they are still running classic1957 Chev's. Are they though? How many of today's cars or trucks are getting a million miles? 1990s Toyotas have. It takes a lot of time to put a million miles on a vehicle, just ask Paul. Todays vehicles may well go a million miles the same as the '90s' vehicles, just need to give them a few decades to prove it. I dont have a dog in this fight, but if I was a betting man, my money would be on toyota and honda for the long haul.
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Re: Auto engineers not very intelligent
[Re: Average Joe]
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09/30/23 06:36 AM
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So you want them to make it easier for you to keep them from making money? Easy solution - design and build your own vechile. You really aren't that dumb are you?
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Re: Auto engineers not very intelligent
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09/30/23 09:33 AM
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They design to save the company money, my mechanic buddy cusses them constantly. Anyone remember the old nylon timing chain gears from years ago , Pontiac and Dodge for sure lol Yes the good days. Chans jumping time, easy money
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Re: Auto engineers not very intelligent
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09/30/23 09:40 AM
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So what truck do you buy? don't say a 90's Toyota, cause 1, they're not made anymore and 2, where you going to find one that's not rotted away? The new Toyotas have issues too..so again, what do you get? Inquiring minds and all that... Look down south and out west.
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Re: Auto engineers not very intelligent
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09/30/23 09:43 AM
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They design to save the company money, my mechanic buddy cusses them constantly. Anyone remember the old nylon timing chain gears from years ago , Pontiac and Dodge for sure lol Yes the good days. Chans jumping time, easy money But……they were quieter! How many of you have actually heard the hum of a timing chain, without putting a stick on it? I’m waiting!
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Re: Auto engineers not very intelligent
[Re: lee steinmeyer]
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09/30/23 10:28 AM
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But……they were quieter! How many of you have actually heard the hum of a timing chain, without putting a stick on it? I’m waiting!
Funny you should mention the stick Lee. Last week I was trying to locate a noise in my 2000 Frontier. The neighbor....a guy about 50.......saw me with a long screwdriver held against my ear and protruding into the engine compartment. He asked WTH I was doing. He had never heard of the stick trick........so I let him try. He was amazed !!
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Re: Auto engineers not very intelligent
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09/30/23 10:56 AM
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I used to work with auto engineers. I helped launch the Ford Expedition. They told me that they design for the ease of manufacture, not repair.
Garryowen Using reverse engineering. Easy to build should be easy to take apart. Lol
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Re: Auto engineers not very intelligent
[Re: Spike369]
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09/30/23 11:08 AM
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So you want them to make it easier for you to keep them from making money? Easy solution - design and build your own vechile. You really aren't that dumb are you? That was a mix of truth, sarcasm, and humor. All lost on you apparently. But nothing like making it personal, jackwagon.
I’ve been sayin yes sir all day at work, I’ve been sayin yes ma’am at home…
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