Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: Wesley]
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11/24/23 09:53 AM
11/24/23 09:53 AM
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SW Georgia
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Because quail plantations won’t let you hunt with a semiauto or pump. 2 shots are all you get, one to cripple the second to kill. 3 shots leads to too many cripples.
Granted I’m no quail hunter (I’d like to but not enough here to mess with it) but I’ve never heard of this before. Wonder if this is common or just the case at one or two plantations? I’m leaning towards it just being a couple of particularly anal outfits. I’ve looked around on the web at a number of bird hunting operations thinking about booking a hunt and I have never seen a requirement for a double gun only. Actual wild bird plantations, not release bird operations. Release birds operations don’t care what you shoot or if it’s even plugged. Your paying for a certain number of birds so shoot’em how you want.
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: WI Outdoors]
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11/24/23 10:12 AM
11/24/23 10:12 AM
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Central, SD
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I’ve had about every type of shotgun over the years for hunting and shooting trap I have tried them all and prefer my 2 autos because they fit me the best. I find less recoil with the autos when shooting trap all day it can wear on a guy after a few hundred rounds with some style guns.
do see the advantage of the SXS for shooting doubles just boom boom. If was on a long hunt I’d take my Beretta auto because it’s lightweight for turkey I take my Remington auto that’s heavier but set up for Turkey hunting.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: WI Outdoors]
#8002473
11/24/23 10:34 AM
11/24/23 10:34 AM
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Joined: Aug 2013
Louisville, Nebraska
jabNE
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My son Gunner and I recently hit some pheasants and quail out west of us, along with a couple others in our group. Gunner carries an over/under 20 gauge and loves it. I carried my old Ithaca featherweight 20 gauge pump that my grandfather gave me. This gun is well cared for and is about 70 years old. It’s my favorite bird gun. We did OK with both guns.  Gunner and his over/under 20. My old Ithaca featherweight. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/11/full-34529-196895-img_5621.jpeg) ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/11/full-34529-196896-img_5620.jpeg) End of day. Mixed bag of roosters and quail. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/11/full-34529-196897-img_5623.jpeg)
Money cannot buy you happiness, but it can buy you a trapping license and that's pretty close.
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: Osky]
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11/24/23 10:41 AM
11/24/23 10:41 AM
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MN
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No draw for me. I’ve got a high grade browning OU in the gun room that hasn’t seen the light of day in years. It will soon when I send it down the road.
I’m just over it. For you guys that like em, enjoy!
Osky What road will it being going down? I want to at least take a look at it as it goes by. 
I have nothing clever to put here.
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: WI Outdoors]
#8002497
11/24/23 11:18 AM
11/24/23 11:18 AM
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WI
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Boom, boom. Eyes still on target with no cocking in-between. Two chokes for that follow up shot, or second bird.
I love break actions to easily peek inside the barrel for obstructions.
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: Wanna Be]
#8002560
11/24/23 01:22 PM
11/24/23 01:22 PM
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Indiana
Providence Farm
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Another aspect no one has mentioned yet is SAFETY. When an O/U or SS is open you know it’s safe. You have to physically be able to see the bolt open on the others. Hunters load their weapons after getting off their horse/wagon/jeep. Guns aren’t shut until getting close to the guide/dogs. After the shots, guns are opened (safe) and generally showed clear to the guides (help…me) before sliding them into the scabbard’s and getting back on the horse/wagon/jeep. If I were a guide using my dogs taking people I don't know I would really like this. I really don't like hunting or being around people I don't know with guns. Had a few close calls over the years.
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: T-Rex]
#8002561
11/24/23 01:23 PM
11/24/23 01:23 PM
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Posco
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Posco
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Boom, boom. Eyes still on target with no cocking in-between. Two chokes for that follow up shot, or second bird.
I love break actions to easily peek inside the barrel for obstructions.
Once you get used to double triggers it gives you that instant choice of choke. You become adept at it, knowing to stab for the tighter choke for the bird that has already gained ground on you. It becomes second nature. On average, I'd say you have about three seconds to get on a grouse you've heard flush. They're also faster to load and unload. That's handy when you're bouncing in and out of the truck between small covers.
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: Providence Farm]
#8002565
11/24/23 01:34 PM
11/24/23 01:34 PM
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Iowa
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Iowa
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Another aspect no one has mentioned yet is SAFETY. When an O/U or SS is open you know it’s safe. You have to physically be able to see the bolt open on the others. Hunters load their weapons after getting off their horse/wagon/jeep. Guns aren’t shut until getting close to the guide/dogs. After the shots, guns are opened (safe) and generally showed clear to the guides (help…me) before sliding them into the scabbard’s and getting back on the horse/wagon/jeep. If I were a guide using my dogs taking people I don't know I would really like this. I really don't like hunting or being around people I don't know with guns. Had a few close calls over the years. That's why all the saftey stuff he just described.
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: WI Outdoors]
#8002600
11/24/23 02:30 PM
11/24/23 02:30 PM
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When I was old enough to hunt, I was handed a Lefever Nitro special, 12ga SxS. It my have ruined me, but I never could operate a pump and be as quick and accurate with my second shot as I could be with the SxS.
I've since bought some semi's and do as good, but I have a spot for doubles.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: WI Outdoors]
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11/24/23 02:37 PM
11/24/23 02:37 PM
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Kansas
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Kansas
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Safety with new hunters is a big point. If it’s broken open it isn’t going to fire. Fall down in the snow or dirt and crack it open to check for obstructions. That’s just a couple. After guiding over 15 years a O/U is the only gun I never saw malfunction. Not saying it never happens but I’ve hunted with only O/U for 30 years and they have a great record.?Plus if you’re any good 2 shots per flush is all a guy needs.
Everything the left touches it destroys
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: white17]
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11/24/23 03:30 PM
11/24/23 03:30 PM
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Posco
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Posco
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To reiterate.......simplicity, reliability, versatility, safety, flexibility, weight, and ............elegance.
On the safety issue I'll add that it's simple to see if your hunting partner's gun is "safe" if it is broken open over his arm. Not so with a pump or semi.
Weight. My 20 ga Beretta 687 weighs 6.4 pounds while my buddy's Browning Auto 5 weighs 9 pounds.
Elegance.....comparing my 686 or a Winchester model 21 to any semi-auto is like comparing Melania Trump to Hillary Clinton.
The double gun is a lot easier to clean too. I think I recall you appreciating this Charles Daly, Ken. It's a beautiful gun that turned 90 this past July. German (Prussian) built. Probably the best made shotguns the world has ever known. I also have English, Scottish and American doubles. They're all good but I think the Germans did it best.
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: WI Outdoors]
#8002632
11/24/23 03:46 PM
11/24/23 03:46 PM
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Joined: Mar 2007
McGrath, AK
white17

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
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McGrath, AK
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That is a beauty Posco. I also think that the Italian made guns will run longer with more wrong with them than any American made gun. I had a Sauer & Sohn 16 ga x 8x57 jr drilling made in 1937. It was a sweet piece of art work and fun to shoot. I lost custody in a divorce 
Mean As Nails
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