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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: Wesley]
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 11/24/23 08:53 AM
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Because quail plantations won’t let you hunt with a semiauto or pump. 2 shots are all you get, one to cripple the second to kill. 3 shots leads to too many cripples.
  Granted I’m no quail hunter (I’d like to but not enough here to mess with it) but I’ve never heard of this before. Wonder if this is common or just the case at one or two plantations? I’m leaning towards it just being a couple of particularly anal outfits. I’ve looked around on the web at a number of bird hunting operations thinking about booking a hunt and I have never seen a requirement for a double gun only. Actual wild bird plantations, not release bird operations. Release birds operations don’t care what you shoot or if it’s even plugged. Your paying for a certain number of birds so shoot’em how you want.  
 
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: WI Outdoors]
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 11/24/23 09:12 AM
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I’ve had about every type of shotgun over the years for hunting and shooting trap I have tried them all and prefer my 2 autos because they fit me the best. I find less recoil with the autos when shooting trap all day it can wear on a guy after a few hundred rounds with some style guns. 
   do see the advantage of the SXS for shooting doubles just boom boom. If was on a long hunt I’d take my Beretta auto because it’s lightweight for turkey I take my Remington auto that’s heavier but set up for Turkey hunting. 
 
  
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: WI Outdoors]
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 11/24/23 09:34 AM
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 Louisville, Nebraska
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My son Gunner and I recently hit some pheasants and quail out west of us, along with a couple others in our group. Gunner carries an over/under 20 gauge and loves it. I carried my old Ithaca featherweight 20 gauge pump that my grandfather gave me. This gun is well cared for and is about 70 years old. It’s my favorite bird gun. We did OK with both guns.   Gunner and his over/under 20.    My old Ithaca featherweight. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/11/full-34529-196895-img_5621.jpeg) ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/11/full-34529-196896-img_5620.jpeg) End of day. Mixed bag of roosters and quail.  ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/11/full-34529-196897-img_5623.jpeg)  
 
  
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: Osky]
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 11/24/23 09:41 AM
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No draw for me. I’ve got a high grade browning OU in the gun room that hasn’t seen the light of day in years. It will soon when I send it down the road.
  I’m just over it. For you guys that like em, enjoy!
  Osky What road will it being going down? I want to at least take a look at it as it goes by.    
 
  
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: WI Outdoors]
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 11/24/23 10:18 AM
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Boom, boom. Eyes still on target with no cocking in-between.  Two chokes for that follow up shot, or second bird.
  I love break actions to easily peek inside the barrel for obstructions. 
 
  
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: Wanna Be]
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 11/24/23 12:22 PM
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Another aspect no one has mentioned yet is SAFETY. When an O/U or SS is open you know it’s safe. You have to physically be able to see the bolt open on the others.  Hunters load their weapons after getting off their horse/wagon/jeep. Guns aren’t shut until getting close to the guide/dogs. After the shots, guns are opened (safe) and generally showed clear to the guides (help…me) before sliding them into the scabbard’s and getting back on the horse/wagon/jeep.  If I were a guide  using my dogs taking people  I don't know I would really like this.      I really  don't like hunting  or being  around people  I don't know with guns.  Had a few close calls over the years.  
 
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: T-Rex]
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 11/24/23 12:23 PM
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Boom, boom. Eyes still on target with no cocking in-between.  Two chokes for that follow up shot, or second bird.
  I love break actions to easily peek inside the barrel for obstructions.
  Once you get used to double triggers it gives you that instant choice of choke. You become adept at it, knowing to stab for the tighter choke for the bird that has already gained ground on you. It becomes second nature. On average, I'd say you have about three seconds to get on a grouse you've heard flush. They're also faster to load and unload. That's handy when you're bouncing in and out of the truck between small covers.  
 
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: Providence Farm]
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 11/24/23 12:34 PM
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Another aspect no one has mentioned yet is SAFETY. When an O/U or SS is open you know it’s safe. You have to physically be able to see the bolt open on the others.  Hunters load their weapons after getting off their horse/wagon/jeep. Guns aren’t shut until getting close to the guide/dogs. After the shots, guns are opened (safe) and generally showed clear to the guides (help…me) before sliding them into the scabbard’s and getting back on the horse/wagon/jeep.  If I were a guide  using my dogs taking people  I don't know I would really like this.      I really  don't like hunting  or being  around people  I don't know with guns.  Had a few close calls over the years.  That's why all the saftey stuff he just described.  
 
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: WI Outdoors]
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 11/24/23 01:30 PM
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When I was old enough to hunt, I was handed a Lefever Nitro special, 12ga SxS.  It my have ruined me, but I never could operate a pump and be as quick and accurate with my second shot as I could be with the SxS.
  I've since bought some semi's and do as good, but I have a spot for doubles. 
 
  
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: WI Outdoors]
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 11/24/23 01:37 PM
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Safety with new hunters is a big point. If it’s broken open it isn’t going to fire. Fall down in the snow or dirt and crack it open to check for obstructions. That’s just a couple. After guiding over 15 years a O/U is the only gun I never saw malfunction. Not saying it never happens but I’ve hunted with only O/U for 30 years and they have a great record.?Plus if you’re any good 2 shots per flush is all a guy needs. 
 
  
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: white17]
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 11/24/23 02:30 PM
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To  reiterate.......simplicity,  reliability, versatility, safety, flexibility,  weight, and  ............elegance.
    On  the  safety issue  I'll  add  that  it's  simple  to  see  if  your  hunting  partner's gun  is  "safe"  if  it  is  broken  open  over his  arm. Not  so  with  a  pump or  semi.
    Weight.   My  20 ga   Beretta  687  weighs  6.4 pounds  while  my buddy's Browning  Auto  5   weighs  9 pounds.
    Elegance.....comparing  my 686  or  a   Winchester  model  21  to any  semi-auto  is  like  comparing  Melania  Trump  to  Hillary  Clinton.
   The  double  gun is  a lot  easier to  clean  too. I think I recall you appreciating this Charles Daly, Ken. It's a beautiful gun that turned 90 this past July. German (Prussian) built. Probably the best made shotguns the world has ever known. I also have English, Scottish and American doubles. They're all good but I think the Germans did it best.     
 
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Re: Over-under shotguns
[Re: WI Outdoors]
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 11/24/23 02:46 PM
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That  is  a  beauty  Posco.    I  also  think that   the  Italian made  guns   will  run  longer  with  more  wrong  with them  than any American made gun. I  had  a  Sauer &  Sohn  16 ga  x  8x57  jr   drilling  made  in  1937.  It was  a  sweet  piece  of  art  work   and  fun  to shoot. I  lost  custody  in a  divorce     
 
  
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