Warrior, that is the perfect example of why we must read the Bible for ourselves and not depend on 'others' to interpret God's Word for us.

I am 100% convinced that the Bible can bring meaning and relevancy to a 6 year old when they read it; as well as, a NASA scientist with numerous degrees.

Lol,
I was quoting what the serpent sayed to Eve to tempt her.
As for Noah I was pointing out the fact that he unjustly placed a curse on Canan for a sin that was anitiated by his poor example.
Look at this generational curse . Canan shall be a servent in the house = tents of Shem.
Remember when Saria Abrams wife gave Hager her sevent to Abram because of her Lack of faith and impatience
Hager would have been a descendant of Ham. She was serving in the house of Shem.

Food for thought Chancey have you read leviticus 20 :11?

^^ Now that is an interesting take. I never thought of that. Good point, and makes sense.

I guess I didn't wholly finish answering how to bless Abraham's seed.
What most Christions know as the great commission is the spread the gospel = the good news that the kingdom is hear.
Christ fulfilled the prophecy of redemption through faith.
This is the faithful seed. Lord Jesus. And those who are in him are heirs of the promise.
Galatians 3:29

Bingo! Also, check out what Absalom does in 2 Samuel 16. Absalom (and Ham) are making what was, in that culture, viewed as a power grab, attempting to usurp a position that does not belong to them. If one interprets the Ham/Canaan issue like this, Canaan would be the offspring of a sinful act and would be the carrier of that curse. Whereas, Shem (his name means "name") would carry on the family name and continue the family calling to "call on the Name of Yahweh".

If we read the Bible like this, how can we be sure that we aren't just using the Bible as a sounding board for our own ideas? The Bible then becomes a mere echo chamber in which all we hear is our own voice. I agree that no one should blindly take someone else's word as the definitive answer to all interpretive issues, but we can't do it alone. We need to read and study in community as well.

Yes jht.
As a body of believers we grow together in the faith, through study, edification, and even rebuking one another when necessary. The church.
Also being important to have prayer and study aloe with the lord. We must have an authority in God's word for most then discernment and edification from our brethren.

Ghingus Kahn planted a quite a few seeds in Asia. Many people are related to him.

Totally agree. Small group study is how we all learn the Word better. My comment was more referring to those that go to church every Sunday and never pick up the Bible to read for themselves.

Understood. Thanks for clarifying, and I can agree to your point. There are plenty of people who claim to have a "biblical" world view but have never read the Bible. Some of them go to church, some of them don't. To be fair, there are also plenty of people who disavow and turn their noses up at the Bible, but most of them haven't read it either. For both types, the SOP is to pick out a few verses that can be made to agree with what they already think: the pro-Bible types pick verses that are encouraging and make them feel good (or that align with their social/political views), and the anti-Bible types will be happy to pick out something they find disagreeable, perhaps about violence or judgement. Both groups would benefit from reading more and reading with other people that they disagree with. Hence the comment I made previously.

You would only need DNA traceable to one of those mentioned to be linked to all 3 since Abraham was the father of both Isaac and Ishmael. A link to either son produces a direct descendant link from Abraham and familial link to the other son.

This is a true. It appeals to many however so they latch on to it.

Ok,
To waggler and worrior and also preacher les.
The three of you seem to be in agreement on this:
It seems to depend on if you subscribe to the idea of "replacement theology" or not.
So what would it mean to you gentlemen. To bless Abraham's seed?

Bump?

Seems like you still have some desire to discuss this further, and I'm willing. Though, I'm still unclear as to where you are headed...

Who is blessing Abraham's seed? Why?

The language involved in your question is most obviously taken from Genesis 12, Genesis 22, and Galatians 3 (though the concepts regarding God's blessing of and covenant with Abra(ha)m is mentioned elsewhere). In all of these cases, God is the one providing the blessing, but the blessing is for Abraham...not his seed. Abraham will be blessed by producing seed, and the seed will in turn be a blessing to the rest of the world. Paul, while writing to the Galatians, is making the argument that Jesus is the one representative seed of Abraham that accomplished the goal of bringing (or restoring) God's blessing to the world and that by joining with Jesus (or being "in Christ" as Paul says), people of any nation can now be counted as part of Abraham's seed. The next logical step is that, if we are now part of Abraham's seed alongside Jesus, then we also share in the same calling which is (back to Genesis) to restore God's blessing to the world. So the flow of blessing begins with God, goes to Abraham, through his seed, and out to the world. Through faith in Jesus, we can all be a part of that world-blessing seed. Of course, all of this is necessary because, in the Garden of Eden, humanity forsook its role to spread God's blessing chose a course of action that instead brought about and multiplied curse throughout the world...

Does that jive with your reading of it?

Many people seem to think that blessing Abraham's seed is giving some sort of preference for, or showing favor to Abraham's descendants. That may be a correct interpretation in a couple of instances. However, "Abraham's seed" in most instances is referring to Jesus Christ.

Thank you you for the reply jht
Yes I was looking for insight on who Abraham's seed is and how we can be a blessing.

Yes waggler, to bless Jesus.

Example
Matthew 5: 44-46