New secret coyote set that "works"
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03/11/24 01:35 PM
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Yes sir
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A guy north of me has sheep, ducks and chickens running lose all over his place. So he keeps traps set year around for at least the last 6 or 8 years that I know of. He's got a couple sets about 20 foot off the road. His sets must be a pretty well guarded secret because I've never seen another like it or read about anything close. These aren't sets for the beginners, more for the experienced wolfers that really know their stuff and how the coyotes think and work a set. Most of time he uses 6 to 8 eggs scattered around for bait not a dead sheep. For a change up he'll sometimes set an egg between the jaw and the pan.
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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03/11/24 04:05 PM
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I was thinking there was more pictures coming, covered with straw or hay
Let me sugar coat this
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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03/11/24 06:16 PM
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Yes sir
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Boys that in the pic is how he sets. No covered traps at set. And as Bob stated he catches coyotes this way.
Bob I think it's the same guy. He's still alive but has moved to town. Comes out to farm regularly. I wondered if you had seen his sets and would recognize them.
I posted this because any time someone says something like this set works or this lure/bait works because I've caught coyotes using it or asks if this set will work or this bait will work I think of the way this guy sets. Same when someone says you don't need to this or that to catch coyotes.
Pretty much any method or attractant will "work", some things and some methods just aren't as effective or as efficient as others.
This guy doesn't think you need to cover traps to catch coyotes and he's right because he catches some without doing it.
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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03/11/24 06:25 PM
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Yes sir
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I would bet he's actually caught more coyotes in a year using this set than anyone has in the tire set.
Think his secret to making this work is perfect pan tension and 13 swivels.
Boone pm me if you want to know how he sets his pan tension . The rest of you are going to have to pay to learn the secret unless your within 250 miles of Marion Ks then I'm not sharing at all.
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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03/11/24 08:27 PM
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I have also heard stories like these years ago. The only way i can see it is if animals are on a carcass at night & maybe tearing at it & stomping around wildly.
But to prove it to me someone would have to do it and set up trail cameras & show me
Till that day.....
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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03/11/24 08:33 PM
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Exposed Baits and Traps set close together is guaranteed to catch all kinds of Protected Birds/Eagles!!
A trapped Eagle looks bad even on private land. Traps should be set 30’ away from the carcasses. It’s the Law in many western states. So be careful. X2
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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03/11/24 08:45 PM
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If a coyote has never had a reason to shy away from a random piece of steel, why would it be frightened of one which it can clearly see? If a coyote has been pinched by a trap, no amount of careful stabilizing or blending will fool it. It will approach the site, scratch at the ground six feet away, and veer off, avoiding the site completely. This ole boy likely does not catch educated coyotes with those kind of sets, but I'll bet he does alright on the uneducated ones. Now if he pinches one it will be game over for him catching that coyote. When I set foothold traps for fox crawling under chain link fence, I bed the trap but don't cover it. That fox is looking for a stable, flat spot under that fence to step on. On an uncovered trap, that would be the pan. I was surprised how well this works for fox. I haven't had an opportunity to try in on coyotes.
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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03/11/24 08:57 PM
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Looks like a great way to catch birds, but yes, uneducated coyotes will step on exposed traps. A catch a handful of them every season in my extremely flashy and heavily lured exposed walkthroughs I set for bobcats.
If traps work like the Antis say......I would have no fingers.
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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03/11/24 09:10 PM
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If a coyote has never had a reason to shy away from a random piece of steel, why would it be frightened of one which it can clearly see? If a coyote has been pinched by a trap, no amount of careful stabilizing or blending will fool it. It will approach the site, scratch at the ground six feet away, and veer off, avoiding the site completely. This ole boy likely does not catch educated coyotes with those kind of sets, but I'll bet he does alright on the uneducated ones. Now if he pinches one it will be game over for him catching that coyote. When I set foothold traps for fox crawling under chain link fence, I bed the trap but don't cover it. That fox is looking for a stable, flat spot under that fence to step on. On an uncovered trap, that would be the pan. I was surprised how well this works for fox. I haven't had an opportunity to try in on coyotes.
I’m sorry. But this^^^^^ is not true. I made a living for years catching coyotes with 3 toes or less. Some of us deal with messed up educated coyotes on a daily basis. When in South Alabama. I used to follow lots of messed up coyotes. Everyone in the south. That could drive to a Co op and buy a duke trap and dig a dirt hole was trapping and toe pinching coyotes. Once. On a 14 day job I had 6 out of 21 coyotes that had = Missing toe or several missing toes. A man has to just figure out a way to win !!!!! Coyotes are individuals! So smart some dumb
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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03/11/24 09:14 PM
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I would urge you to remove this post. No way should this type of set be championed by responsible trappers for obvious reasons already stated. This set would make you eligible for a $6250 fine in my state.
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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03/11/24 10:15 PM
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That set is illegal here in Nebraska. Cannot set leg holds like that within 30 feet of bait in plain site like tthat carcass. Jim
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
[Re: Boone Liane]
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03/12/24 08:25 AM
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Hey now, I catch a couple coyotes every year in exposed sets!
I think we’d be surprised how many traps have been set just like that, wired off to a leg. I have caught some OLD coyotes in sets with exposed pans. After a big rain. Sometimes To get out and cover a pan. Leaves to much disturbed ground. So I wait. I catch coyotes with parts of the trap exposed from time to time. A well bedded trap though. IF a coyote feels a trap wobbles. It often digs it up. I laughed when I hear. How smart or keen a coyote is that digs up sets. A smart coyote ? Well. She just LEAVES!! Smart Coyote? Kills and leaves. Maybe comes back ? THAT is the smart 1
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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03/12/24 08:44 PM
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Looks like he shoulda kept it a secret
There i said it....
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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My fear is some dumb kids will see that and try it! I know a couple dumb kids who set three traps "for coyotes" just like that next to guts from a beef. First check they had three bald eagles. That was 50 years ago. We used a coat over the eagles to get them out of the traps. Don't try this at home kids! Not even funny to post something irresponsible as that.
Sneak the pan under his paw!
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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I've caught more than a few yotes in cat sets with the traps mostly exposed, heavily guided.. Actually trying not to catch yotes
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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03/15/24 08:52 PM
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Seth I make a set a guy we both know taught me. It’s a carcass set but not quite that obvious I can set it in 2 minutes and it tears them up. That being said I don’t have to worry about birds out here. Thanks for posting. Good way not to do it
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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03/16/24 07:19 AM
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You guys seriously think if someone was going to try this set they couldn't think it up on their own? I'd actually bet it would be the first set the vast majority of beginners would come up with on their own.... Maybe, but i don't think it needs to be advertised here as a good set where kids are welcomed to join and learn on this site. That's where trappers education comes into play. This is something that should be taught NOT to do EVER.
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
[Re: LT GREY]
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03/25/24 12:35 AM
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Exposed Baits and Traps set close together is guaranteed to catch all kinds of Protected Birds/Eagles!!
A trapped Eagle looks bad even on private land. Traps should be set 30’ away from the carcasses. It’s the Law in many western states. So be careful. Exactly ! That set will catch every vulture that flies over it
Yep,,, most normal people know this. But remember who his friends are.
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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03/29/24 07:05 AM
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So it's ok because of who posted? Slap in the face to those with hours of trapper training, nut who cares right. Good thing not political, or cussin lol.
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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03/29/24 05:35 PM
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Seton used a similar set back in 1894 when he trapped Lobo,Blanca and the rest of the currumpaw pack. Except Seton covered his traps carefully.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
[Re: lee steinmeyer]
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03/31/24 09:39 AM
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Good thing I know Seth! Or I wood prolly bite, like so many others have on this thread! He is spoofin y’all, and he is good at it. lol Really?? If your so proud of your boy's comedic skills than maybe you should talk him into plastering this image and some even more pathetic photos he has laying around all over social media on April fools day. That way he can get so many more laughs and kill trapping a little faster.
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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I read a book. About red wolfs in Texas. Lots were caught with bare traps around cows in the 1900s. They just set them. And caught wolfs. Two words that don’t go in a sentence with coyotes???? Always and never Exactly why 3 traps and not 3sets to catch 3 colored at this magnet ????
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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Good thing I know Seth! Or I wood prolly bite, like so many others have on this thread! He is spoofin y’all, and he is good at it. lol Really?? If your so proud of your boy's comedic skills than maybe you should talk him into plastering this image and some even more pathetic photos he has laying around all over social media on April fools day. That way he can get so many more laughs and kill trapping a little faster. Do y’all even think before you post something? Some of ya need a chill pill, this kind of crap gets old quick. Humor must be a lost art nowdays, I’m done here, too much stupid for me.
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
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04/02/24 06:34 AM
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Thinking before you post...wow how ironic. Two stupid things on this thread. 1...posting a pic of a really bad set then stating what a great set it is. On a forum where people come to learn. Number 2 is the [ click ] as in the good ole boys club agrees with it. Smh Three things should come to mind here, discretion, common sense and ethics.
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Re: New secret coyote set that "works"
[Re: BTLowry]
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Common sense would say stop replying and bumping this to the top Common sense would be to delete the pic or maybe this entire thread.
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