Good.

Why good?

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I miss read I have more does then bucks on my land.

I wouldn't mind having a bucks only season up in Sawyer where I hunt but I am against taking away the decision from the dnr biologists.

Again, they've been failing for years. Why should we listen to them?

I don't think they've been failing, I saw more deer after the last round of buck only years than before them, I disagree with public land deer and private land deer, with the small plots of public and private intermingled lands the herd is the herd.

"They" being the biologists haven't done much management other than providing harvest and other deer metrics data to the County Deer Advisory Comittees. The tools are already there for thr CDACs to limit or eliminate antlerless harvest in their respective counties. I've been against this broad stroke legislative wildlife management since day 1 and am glad to see it got vetoed.

Mando, I'd ypu don't want does shot in the county you hunt, I hope you attend all the CDAC meetings and make your opinion heard. We need less government in wildlife management, not more.

I agree with you tlguy about less government rule for sure.

One of my big things that I disliked about it was it would drive a good amount of the hunters from north of hwy 64 south of 64 into the already over crowded Southern Wisconsin public hunting areas.

Doesn't mean much what you saw. Every place is different. There are lots of deer in some areas, and not so much in others. Our management practices here are not very good. Period.

I would not mind a ban on does for a year but it should come from the biologists, not the politicians. I question his motives but this is probably the first time I’ve agreed with Evers since he has been in office. 4years is ridiculous.Too many things can happen in that timeline .

The whole thing is politics. The biologists, the NRB. All of it.

I feel for you guys that live in states where politics dictates wildlife management

my thought is that enough lawmakers have been hearing about the "relative" lack of deer in the northern 1/2. Being lawmakers and not biologist they figure the easy solution is stop shooting does so that there will be more deer.
Instead of looking into why and if there is really a lack of deer they do what is easy.
If there is a lack of deer there is usually more than one reason. Severe winters, depredation, lack of premium habitat, and other stressors either by themselves or maybe more than just one.
Biologist should be tasked to do a honest study and see what they come up with. Maybe its something that can be fixed.

There is absolutely no doubt are deer in northern Wisconsin are declining. I’ve been a taxidermist here for 40 years and until 16 years ago I mounted an average of 65 white tail bucks a year from Douglas county. We had fantastic big buck hunting and great genetics then 26 years ago the wolves showed up and now it’s all but gone. Most of the deer I mount now come from other states and the ones I do get from here are young and small. One group of ten hunters this year got zero deer first time in 49 years when they use to fill up on average in 4-5 days. I havnt had a picture of a big buck on my land in 14 years when it use to be a multiple monsters a year. Rubs and scrapes once abundant are rare. People here are depressed and for good reason. 14 or 15 years ago for the first time since bow hunting started you havnt been able to shoot a doe with bow without special doe permit that’s hard to get. And all because of wolves. They are everywhere. The last wolf season forced on the DNR in February 2 or 3 years ago they doubled the quota in 2 days killing 218 wolves which was over 20% of the entire state’s estimated population. That will tell you how far under a actual population their estimates are. Wolves are sanitizers, they kill everything until nothing is left. Why do you think Idaho has up to a $2,000 bounty on wolves. They have been decimated by wolves. Same with Minnesota moose from 16,000 down to 3,000 some and they give every reason except wolves. Come live with wolves and find out Our game management is the worst in the country. I could give you plenty of proof. Minnesota north of me is already a deer desert with huge areas now 3 years without a single deer track. And i could go on and on. Many avid and very skilled hunters no longer even buy licenses here any longer but go to other states. It’s just sad. I told those legislators their doe ban would do no good there were very few doe tags given out anyway. If wolves arnt addressed were done and each year it’s getting worse.

Agree 100% ^^

One more time. If you want to slow the decline or increase a deer a herd don’t harvest does. It buys you time to study the problem or miracles of miracles you get to address the wolf problem.

Dirt, let's put this into terms you might understand being in Alaska. No salmon fishing in 1/3 of Alaska because a few rivers have low salmon numbers in certain stretches. Be it from predation by grizzlies, changing river habitat, or a drought.

That's what this legislation would've done. Instead, local deer advisory councils can still limit harvest to regulate the deer herd in their area, same as they have been able to for the last 9 years. I think we all agree limiting the antlerless harvest could help grow the herd, but a 4 year blanket ban was foolish.