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A question I over heard at the archery shop today #8171643
07/12/24 08:59 PM
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So was waiting to look at a bow for my daughter today. The guy was getting a bow set up for a young boy probably 8-9 years old. So while he is setting the draw weight and draw length, the boys mom asks the tech a question. Her question actually contained the answer but she apparently didnt want to believe or didnt posses the ability to comprehend that she already knew the answer.

This is the question she asked. So I was shooting an expanding broadhead(rage to be exact) and wasnt getting pass throughs, so I switched to fixed blade broadheads and started getting pass throughs. I want to get pass throughs so what expanding broadhead should I use? Thats like bashing your head off the wall, and then asking people how to make your head stop hurting. And when someone says well ypur head hurts because you keep bashing your head on the wall. And you say nah, that cant be it, so what kind of wall can should I bash my head on to make it stop hurting.

I wanted to pipe up and say you already have found the answer to you problem just open you freaking eyes. You want pass throughs expandables didnt work and fixed blades did. Seems like a simple decision to me.



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Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: Chuckles84] #8171653
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Not all expandables are that gaudy and require 70#+ bows or xbows to get passthroughs if you clip a bone.

Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: Chuckles84] #8171655
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Did you really make a new thread just so you can complain abouy tv hunting shows? Or was it to make fun of the lady asking a question?I’m sure it was both.

Kudos on being smarter than everyone else.

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Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: Chuckles84] #8171658
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Been bowhunting for over 45 years.
I see ZERO reason to shot any mechanical head.
Well, maybe for LONG range accuracy.

I want 2 holes every time!.


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Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: Chuckles84] #8171684
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She probably wants to shoot a mechanical because there is much less tuning issues. For good penatration fixed blade or cut on contact broadheads are the way to go in my opinion. If I just hunted deer I would shoot my Wasp Jakhammer. But I like to hunt bear also so settle with a good fixed blade head.

Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: M.Magis] #8171689
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Originally Posted by M.Magis
Did you really make a new thread just so you can complain abouy tv hunting shows? Or was it to make fun of the lady asking a question?I’m sure it was both.

Kudos on being smarter than everyone else.

Not smarter for sure, most days I am the dullest in the room. Definitely no issue with someone asking a question either.


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Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: backroadsarcher] #8171695
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Originally Posted by backroadsarcher
She probably wants to shoot a mechanical because there is much less tuning issues. For good penatration fixed blade or cut on contact broadheads are the way to go in my opinion. If I just hunted deer I would shoot my Wasp Jakhammer. But I like to hunt bear also so settle with a good fixed blade head.

If she had asked what mechanical broadhead do you recommend I dont think I would have even gave it a second thought.

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Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: bucksnbears] #8171697
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Originally Posted by bucksnbears
Been bowhunting for over 45 years.
I see ZERO reason to shot any mechanical head.
Well, maybe for LONG range accuracy.

I want 2 holes every time!.

My brother shot 2 blade rages for years. When they worked they were great, but too many failures along with being one shot and then junk. He has since went back to fixed blades. I tried some NAP Spitfires a few seasons but wasnt impressed with them either.


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Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: Chuckles84] #8171700
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She may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but she's hunting and getting a youth involved. We need more like her.

Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: Chuckles84] #8171707
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Idk I can see it. Probably see other people getting the results she wants with them and just wanted to figure out how it works for them but not for her.

Dealing with the same with certainbullets. For some reason they work fantastic in the same caliber for some but are the worst thing ever for others and no one can seem to be able to explain why or how. Like yeah I got stuff that works but it annoys me to no end and I just really wanna know why. Some people are just wired that way

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Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: D Cobb] #8171710
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Originally Posted by D Cobb
She may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but she's hunting and getting a youth involved. We need more like her.

I agree 100%. Its great seeing youngsters getting the opportunity to get in the field and hunt. And the bow tech was great with the moms questions and with the getting the youngsters draw weight and length dialed in perfect and wasnt rushing through it.


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Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: M.Magis] #8171712
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Originally Posted by M.Magis
Did you really make a new thread just so you can complain abouy tv hunting shows? Or was it to make fun of the lady asking a question?I’m sure it was both.

Kudos on being smarter than everyone else.


M.Magis I recommend you rein in your unbridled contempt for others. This isn't the first time I've seen this behavior from you on here,but it had better be the last if you wish to remain on here.


John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

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Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: Chuckles84] #8171719
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That was a great question. Mechanical broadheads vary greatly in size. I am more familiar with rage than others - but there used to be a 2 blade rage 40 KE as they called it for lighter weight bows. My wife has shot a dozen deer with it, 27” draw pulling 47 lbs and has got a pass through on all but one. I did a lot of experimentation one year with different broadheads, shooting multiple hogs with 8 different broadheads. I got more consistent pass throughs with a standard three blade chisel tip rage than any of the big two blades. Wouldnt doubt there are other mechanicals better suited for lighter wt bows. She might have been smarter than some on her give credit.

Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: Chuckles84] #8171721
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I love the Ranch Fairy on YouTube. That guy is funny and really good when it comes to broadheads and arrows.

Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: Chuckles84] #8171733
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Zwiky broadheads- No fails.

Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: Chuckles84] #8171745
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I shoot mechanicals and fixed. I’m partial to fixed but killed a pile of deer with mechanicals. I AM NOT a Rage fan at all. I tired one when they first came out and it didn’t open…luckily a good shot and a stupid deer. Ran 100 yards away from me then turned and ran straight back to me and fell 50yds behind me. Found the arrow and unopened broad head and the first blood 10yds from where it fell. Basically killed a deer with a field point.

I’ve used RamCats (hybrid), MegaMeat (mechanical), and G5 Monte M3 (fixed)
Shot two with the M3 and two with the MegaMeat last year. Watched them all fall within sight. Well, one fell out of sight, but was just around the corner where I last saw her.

I’m not a long range shooter. Mainly 30yds and under, mostly under.

Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: Chuckles84] #8171754
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NAP Thunderheads are my go to broad heads they work well for pass throughs. First time using a crossbow last year a quartering away pass through and it stuck in the ground almost to the fletchings I was impressed but that’s #150 bow.


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Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: Chuckles84] #8171765
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She asked a very intelligent question in my opinion. She apparently already knows that a fully functional mechanical broadhead which passes through is deadly on deer, and likely that they don't require much tuning if any. The answer to her great question is, "What is your current draw weight, and what yardage is your personal limit in terms of making a lethal hit?"
Once that is determined, a competent person would then steer her towards a style of mechanical which is known to perform with a bow set at her specific draw weight and at the distance she is competent at delivering a lethal hit.
What the heck am I missing here?!

Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: Chuckles84] #8171775
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Re: A question I over heard at the archery shop today [Re: Chuckles84] #8171791
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I bought a pack of 3 blade rage several years back. Shot one deer with one. 12 yards pass through arrow on the ground. Deer ran 45 yards and stood there 4 mind then fell over. The rage had blades that were bent. Only about 5 drops of blood between the shot and fist size area she stood for that time. Shot only clipped one rib slightly double lung shot. Had that deer ran instead of stopping I would not have found it.

Since I killed my first deer with a bow starting at 13 I have shot a lot of Deer with lots of different heads. I will say they all work fine. But the rage is the only one I will never use again and above my remaining to a guy at work.

Wasp jackhammer have been great expanding heads. Best value and well proven for me are 3 blade fuzzy.

For the boys with light short draw weight I went with a 125 gr fixed blade more weight and got pass through and arrow stuck in a log on the off side. I don't believe a 2" cut 3 blade expanding head would get a pass through.

I would have went with cut on contact head but thet cost 3x the muzzys and since they get shot in practice I can justify having some for practice and sighting in and new sharp ones for hunting and don't have to sharpen then like I would the cut on contact models.

Smaller diameter expanding heads will go deeper than the popular 2" models but are not as popular. But less than a fixed blade.

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