Re: Price controls on food
[Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE]
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08/19/24 05:16 PM
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we don't eat nearly enough soup in this country
biscuits and soup make a lot of sense and you can make it very cheap
since a hundred years ago they were working on selling everyone the idea that you should buy store bought foods , breads, and other packaged or convenience foods even corn bread mix rather than just corn meal and flour.
simplify and convenience everything until it happened , the majority of the population has no idea how to cook , they can read instructions off a box and re-heat but basic cooking skills are mostly lost. many people who get take and bake or heat and eat everything.
ask someone in the isle at the store their recipe for pancakes ,I would guess >90% they start by telling you their preferred box mix.
Another interesting observation , people don't know how to do simple cooking, canning or growing and harvesting their own. The price of canning supplies is to the point, it costs more to can your own food than to buy it. There's ways around this total control agenda. Another thing , they're blaming food costs on the producers, yet the price of fuel and everything to operate a farm has tripled , yet this government wants to put a price freeze of a farmers products? It that doesn't scream socialism and communism , what the heck does?
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Re: Price controls on food
[Re: white17]
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08/19/24 05:19 PM
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Bastiat's most well known work is a small book called The law
If you haven't read it I urge you to do so. It will make you stand and cheer............and then cry because we have fallen so far. Like the fall of the Roman Empire. Same exact principals were involved.
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Re: Price controls on food
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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08/19/24 05:52 PM
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I went to get a Subway sub. The price was $1.50 higher than 2 months ago and the sub was smaller than I paid for it the last time.
It's been months since I bought the book, "How To Scam People On Line". It still hasn't arrived yet.
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Re: Price controls on food
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08/19/24 07:55 PM
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Did not state if subsidies are good, bad or ugly, that based on the past 75 years subsidies is the choice that has been made, along with credits etc.
Bryce I think you are saying socialism started before Obama. 
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Price controls on food
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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08/19/24 08:40 PM
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Trump had a heck of a lot more on his mind , and like every business man/owner they rely on information from their underlings I did not believe Fauci from the beginning. The president needs a little discernment. One lie after another and I could see it. Took a lot of flack on here for saying so. for the believers there is another shot coming out
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Price controls on food
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08/19/24 09:31 PM
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Bastiat's most well known work is a small book called The law
If you haven't read it I urge you to do so. It will make you stand and cheer............and then cry because we have fallen so far. Like the fall of the Roman Empire. Same exact principals were involved. To steal a line, it's "the road to serfdom"
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Price controls on food
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08/19/24 09:35 PM
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we don't eat nearly enough soup in this country
biscuits and soup make a lot of sense and you can make it very cheap
since a hundred years ago they were working on selling everyone the idea that you should buy store bought foods , breads, and other packaged or convenience foods even corn bread mix rather than just corn meal and flour.
simplify and convenience everything until it happened , the majority of the population has no idea how to cook , they can read instructions off a box and re-heat but basic cooking skills are mostly lost. many people who get take and bake or heat and eat everything.
ask someone in the isle at the store their recipe for pancakes ,I would guess >90% they start by telling you their preferred box mix.
Another interesting observation , people don't know how to do simple cooking, canning or growing and harvesting their own. The price of canning supplies is to the point, it costs more to can your own food than to buy it. There's ways around this total control agenda. Another thing , they're blaming food costs on the producers, yet the price of fuel and everything to operate a farm has tripled , yet this government wants to put a price freeze of a farmers products? It that doesn't scream socialism and communism , what the heck does? The deal with fuel IMHO: Just because the tomato farmer has to spend double in fuel To run his/her tractor, farm trucks to haul tomatoes to the packer, doesn't mean that farmer can charge more for his product to help offset fuel cost. The farmer gets paid what the market is paying for tomatoes. Now speaking with my buddy that runs a truck brokerage, he has to pay the haulers a lot more because of fuel prices to get the product to his buyers. I'm not saying fuel costs are what is totally responsible for the cost of consumer products, but the COST of FUEL is in the equation with inflation.
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Re: Price controls on food
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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08/19/24 09:58 PM
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for the believers there is another shot coming out Too late, tested positive a couple hours ago. No dump trucking tomorrow so looks like another day of milling lumber. Did you get the JAB?
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Re: Price controls on food
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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08/19/24 10:32 PM
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ok if we are going to talk food , we need to talk commodity price
is what the farmer paid per bushel , hundred weight , or hanging weight balanced with the end user price
just going to use wheat price per bushel Aug 2024 6.17 Aug 2014 5.61 adjusted for inflation this would be 7.45 in 2024
wheat price has been up and down and this is not that big of a change considering where it's highs and lows have been it is still meaning the farmer is short changed at 6.17
who ever said this is how you get communism , you are correct, you blame the farmers for greed while they are making less per bushel and the price doesn't equal what the consumer is paying , you find a bunch of usefully idiots to champion the plan selling it and when they realize what they helped to do , they are too busy starving in a gulag to tell anyone.
I suggest you find a farm that will sell you pigs and cows at market price , get a couple families to split the cow and do the work. it only takes a couple hours to get a cow hanging in 1/4s in the garage you just need it to be cool enough to let it hang and cool.
in a pinch a big chest freezer will work to get you cool , I did the last cow in 90 degree heat , and it turned out just fine , she had to be put down that day
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Price controls on food
[Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE]
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08/19/24 10:42 PM
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ok if we are going to talk food , we need to talk commodity price
is what the farmer paid per bushel , hundred weight , or hanging weight balanced with the end user price
just going to use wheat price per bushel Aug 2024 6.17 Aug 2014 5.61 adjusted for inflation this would be 7.45 in 2024
wheat price has been up and down and this is not that big of a change considering where it's highs and lows have been it is still meaning the farmer is short changed at 6.17
who ever said this is how you get communism , you are correct, you blame the farmers for greed while they are making less per bushel and the price doesn't equal what the consumer is paying , you find a bunch of usefully idiots to champion the plan selling it and when they realize what they helped to do , they are too busy starving in a gulag to tell anyone.
I suggest you find a farm that will sell you pigs and cows at market price , get a couple families to split the cow and do the work. it only takes a couple hours to get a cow hanging in 1/4s in the garage you just need it to be cool enough to let it hang and cool.
in a pinch a big chest freezer will work to get you cool , I did the last cow in 90 degree heat , and it turned out just fine , she had to be put down that day
Years ago had a cow try to jump over a stall, broke it's neck on the overhead beam. Butchered it with just knives and a hand meat saw. My dad was in charge of everything, I was still a teenager. But we did it.
We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
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Re: Price controls on food
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08/19/24 11:35 PM
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I suggest you find a farm that will sell you pigs and cows at market price , get a couple families to split the cow and do the work. it only takes a couple hours to get a cow hanging in 1/4s in the garage you just need it to be cool enough to let it hang and cool.
in a pinch a big chest freezer will work to get you cool , I did the last cow in 90 degree heat , and it turned out just fine , she had to be put down that day
Years ago had a cow try to jump over a stall, broke it's neck on the overhead beam. Butchered it with just knives and a hand meat saw. My dad was in charge of everything, I was still a teenager. But we did it. a few knives and a hand saw , sometimes a Sawzall with a clean blade the forks on the skid steer help, I chain the gambrel to the fork and most of the time I get a helper to lift as I work but I have done it myself , a chain hoist and a strong meat pole would work
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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