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Re: Price controls on food [Re: bowhunter27295] #8199259
08/19/24 05:10 PM
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Bastiat's most well known work is a small book called The law

If you haven't read it I urge you to do so. It will make you stand and cheer............and then cry because we have fallen so far.


Mean As Nails
Re: Price controls on food [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8199262
08/19/24 05:16 PM
08/19/24 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
we don't eat nearly enough soup in this country

biscuits and soup make a lot of sense and you can make it very cheap

since a hundred years ago they were working on selling everyone the idea that you should buy store bought foods , breads, and other packaged or convenience foods even corn bread mix rather than just corn meal and flour.

simplify and convenience everything until it happened , the majority of the population has no idea how to cook , they can read instructions off a box and re-heat but basic cooking skills are mostly lost.
many people who get take and bake or heat and eat everything.

ask someone in the isle at the store their recipe for pancakes ,I would guess >90% they start by telling you their preferred box mix.



Another interesting observation , people don't know how to do simple cooking, canning or growing and harvesting their own.
The price of canning supplies is to the point, it costs more to can your own food than to buy it.
There's ways around this total control agenda.

Another thing , they're blaming food costs on the producers, yet the price of fuel and everything to operate a farm has tripled , yet this government wants to put a price freeze of a farmers products?
It that doesn't scream socialism and communism , what the heck does?


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Price controls on food [Re: white17] #8199264
08/19/24 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
Bastiat's most well known work is a small book called The law

If you haven't read it I urge you to do so. It will make you stand and cheer............and then cry because we have fallen so far.


Like the fall of the Roman Empire. Same exact principals were involved.


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Price controls on food [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8199286
08/19/24 05:44 PM
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Did not state if subsidies are good, bad or ugly, that based on the past 75 years subsidies is the choice that has been made, along with credits etc.

Bryce

Re: Price controls on food [Re: bowhunter27295] #8199293
08/19/24 05:52 PM
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I went to get a Subway sub. The price was $1.50 higher than 2 months ago and the sub was smaller than I paid for it the last time.


It's been months since I bought the book, "How To Scam People On Line". It still hasn't arrived yet.
Re: Price controls on food [Re: bblwi] #8199374
08/19/24 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
Did not state if subsidies are good, bad or ugly, that based on the past 75 years subsidies is the choice that has been made, along with credits etc.

Bryce


I think you are saying socialism started before Obama.
smile


Who is John Galt?
Re: Price controls on food [Re: bowhunter27295] #8199391
08/19/24 08:40 PM
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Trump had a heck of a lot more on his mind , and like every business man/owner they rely on information from their underlings


I did not believe Fauci from the beginning. The president needs a little discernment. One lie after another and I could see it. Took a lot of flack on here for saying so.

for the believers there is another shot coming out


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Price controls on food [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8199435
08/19/24 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
Originally Posted by white17
Bastiat's most well known work is a small book called The law

If you haven't read it I urge you to do so. It will make you stand and cheer............and then cry because we have fallen so far.


Like the fall of the Roman Empire. Same exact principals were involved.


To steal a line, it's "the road to serfdom"


"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
Re: Price controls on food [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8199436
08/19/24 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
we don't eat nearly enough soup in this country

biscuits and soup make a lot of sense and you can make it very cheap

since a hundred years ago they were working on selling everyone the idea that you should buy store bought foods , breads, and other packaged or convenience foods even corn bread mix rather than just corn meal and flour.

simplify and convenience everything until it happened , the majority of the population has no idea how to cook , they can read instructions off a box and re-heat but basic cooking skills are mostly lost.
many people who get take and bake or heat and eat everything.

ask someone in the isle at the store their recipe for pancakes ,I would guess >90% they start by telling you their preferred box mix.



Another interesting observation , people don't know how to do simple cooking, canning or growing and harvesting their own.
The price of canning supplies is to the point, it costs more to can your own food than to buy it.
There's ways around this total control agenda.

Another thing , they're blaming food costs on the producers, yet the price of fuel and everything to operate a farm has tripled , yet this government wants to put a price freeze of a farmers products?
It that doesn't scream socialism and communism , what the heck does?

The deal with fuel IMHO: Just because the tomato farmer has to spend double in fuel To run his/her tractor, farm trucks to haul tomatoes to the packer, doesn't mean that farmer can charge more for his product to help offset fuel cost. The farmer gets paid what the market is paying for tomatoes. Now speaking with my buddy that runs a truck brokerage, he has to pay the haulers a lot more because of fuel prices to get the product to his buyers. I'm not saying fuel costs are what is totally responsible for the cost of consumer products, but the COST of FUEL is in the equation with inflation.


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DJT in 2024!
Re: Price controls on food [Re: danny clifton] #8199442
08/19/24 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
for the believers there is another shot coming out


Too late, tested positive a couple hours ago. No dump trucking tomorrow so looks like another day of milling lumber.


-Goofy
Re: Price controls on food [Re: bowhunter27295] #8199444
08/19/24 09:57 PM
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Greed and power are the issues imo. And they must be incredibly tempting because almost every politician, at every level, eventually succumb to them. Need to remove the temptation somehow.

Re: Price controls on food [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8199447
08/19/24 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by danny clifton
for the believers there is another shot coming out


Too late, tested positive a couple hours ago. No dump trucking tomorrow so looks like another day of milling lumber.

Did you get the JAB?


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Price controls on food [Re: bowhunter27295] #8199452
08/19/24 10:04 PM
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I did not.


-Goofy
Re: Price controls on food [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8199454
08/19/24 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
I did not.

Good on you!


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Price controls on food [Re: bowhunter27295] #8199471
08/19/24 10:32 PM
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ok if we are going to talk food , we need to talk commodity price

is what the farmer paid per bushel , hundred weight , or hanging weight balanced with the end user price

just going to use wheat price per bushel
Aug 2024 6.17
Aug 2014 5.61 adjusted for inflation this would be 7.45 in 2024

wheat price has been up and down and this is not that big of a change considering where it's highs and lows have been it is still meaning the farmer is short changed at 6.17

who ever said this is how you get communism , you are correct, you blame the farmers for greed while they are making less per bushel and the price doesn't equal what the consumer is paying , you find a bunch of usefully idiots to champion the plan selling it and when they realize what they helped to do , they are too busy starving in a gulag to tell anyone.

I suggest you find a farm that will sell you pigs and cows at market price , get a couple families to split the cow and do the work.
it only takes a couple hours to get a cow hanging in 1/4s in the garage you just need it to be cool enough to let it hang and cool.

in a pinch a big chest freezer will work to get you cool , I did the last cow in 90 degree heat , and it turned out just fine , she had to be put down that day


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Price controls on food [Re: bowhunter27295] #8199477
08/19/24 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Communist and socialists control prices.

Capitalist economies do not.

When you control prices, YOU ALSO CONTROL WAGES!!

Pretty easy to understand.

This proposal is a swirling toilet bowl that will destroy the economy of this country and our economy will be no better than China, Russia or England.

Truth


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Re: Price controls on food [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8199478
08/19/24 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
ok if we are going to talk food , we need to talk commodity price

is what the farmer paid per bushel , hundred weight , or hanging weight balanced with the end user price

just going to use wheat price per bushel
Aug 2024 6.17
Aug 2014 5.61 adjusted for inflation this would be 7.45 in 2024

wheat price has been up and down and this is not that big of a change considering where it's highs and lows have been it is still meaning the farmer is short changed at 6.17

who ever said this is how you get communism , you are correct, you blame the farmers for greed while they are making less per bushel and the price doesn't equal what the consumer is paying , you find a bunch of usefully idiots to champion the plan selling it and when they realize what they helped to do , they are too busy starving in a gulag to tell anyone.

I suggest you find a farm that will sell you pigs and cows at market price , get a couple families to split the cow and do the work.
it only takes a couple hours to get a cow hanging in 1/4s in the garage you just need it to be cool enough to let it hang and cool.

in a pinch a big chest freezer will work to get you cool , I did the last cow in 90 degree heat , and it turned out just fine , she had to be put down that day










Years ago had a cow try to jump over a stall, broke it's neck on the overhead beam.
Butchered it with just knives and a hand meat saw.
My dad was in charge of everything, I was still a teenager.
But we did it.


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Price controls on food [Re: bowhunter27295] #8199487
08/19/24 10:53 PM
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As a small farmer that produces cattle,produce ,and a little bit of row crop I can say our profits have nothing to do with food prices. Government price control would only kill small guys like me. It takes my successful cabinet shop to subsidize my farm now. We take no government money and the only way under gov control prices would be subsidies. Who ever controls your food controls you.

Re: Price controls on food [Re: bowhunter27295] #8199500
08/19/24 11:17 PM
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Government is going to have plenty of money with everybody buying hunting and fishing licenses in the near future. lol


-Goofy
Re: Price controls on food [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8199509
08/19/24 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE

I suggest you find a farm that will sell you pigs and cows at market price , get a couple families to split the cow and do the work.
it only takes a couple hours to get a cow hanging in 1/4s in the garage you just need it to be cool enough to let it hang and cool.

in a pinch a big chest freezer will work to get you cool , I did the last cow in 90 degree heat , and it turned out just fine , she had to be put down that day



Years ago had a cow try to jump over a stall, broke it's neck on the overhead beam.
Butchered it with just knives and a hand meat saw.
My dad was in charge of everything, I was still a teenager.
But we did it.


a few knives and a hand saw , sometimes a Sawzall with a clean blade

the forks on the skid steer help, I chain the gambrel to the fork and most of the time I get a helper to lift as I work but I have done it myself , a chain hoist and a strong meat pole would work


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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