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Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: hippie] #8201003
08/22/24 08:19 AM
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Full disclosure, I don't believe there are Bigfoot roaming around. It snows too much for people to not see tracks for one.[/quote]



Be careful Hippie, this is where theyll start to get squirrelly on you and tell you that bigfoot is a shapeshifter, or that he can disappear when he wants to.
Im not completely knowledgeable about the number of houndhunters in other states, but I can tell you if one existed in Michigan, where there are alleged reported sightings, the hounds wouldve had it treed by now. At the very least, the tracks would have been found in the snow....unless of course bigfoot is a snowbird and heads down to the Villages for winter.... whistle

Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: cathryn] #8201015
08/22/24 08:40 AM
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Sasquash hunters similar to snipe hunters with a gunny sack have fun with local dweeb


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Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: Jingles] #8201072
08/22/24 10:20 AM
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I'm primarily researching what makes the knocks as they appear on my recording. Whether or not that's a respectable or non respectable goal to someone matters not. The rest is complicated. When 20,000 people descend on Bigfoot festival in a small town called Sutton in West Virginia- population 840- one has to wonder how big of a sham the Bigfoot subject is. 50,000 in Logan, Ohio? So my ultimate goal is the truth of what gives. The creature is either real or not- opinions notwithstanding. I have emailed the Dept. of Agriculture, USFS, and the USFWS for the answer.

As far as I know, no other so-called Sasquatch "researcher" or high-profile Bigfoot influencer, on TV or otherwise, has done that. I'm after an official statement on which side of the coin the truth lies. Real or not real? I want that answer and won't stop until I get it. The issue is all doors are closed and all avenues so far have been dead ends. The other issue is, no matter which way it goes, the truth will cost someone a huge pile of money which is why, so far, the OFFICIAL truth has not been forthcoming.

I am not a believer. Nor am I a non-believer. Because I am an adult, I am a seeker of the truth which, in my mind and world, is an official statement to the public on what the reality is.

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Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: cathryn] #8201095
08/22/24 10:56 AM
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Where's nightwish when we need him to straighten things out???


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Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: cathryn] #8201107
08/22/24 11:11 AM
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Speaking of Tony Orlando, has anyone checked on his whereabouts since he retired? Tony and a female sasquach living the good life back in the hills is starting to make sense.


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Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: Researcher] #8201108
08/22/24 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Researcher
I'm primarily researching what makes the knocks as they appear on my recording. Whether or not that's a respectable or non respectable goal to someone matters not. The rest is complicated. When 20,000 people descend on Bigfoot festival in a small town called Sutton in West Virginia- population 840- one has to wonder how big of a sham the Bigfoot subject is. 50,000 in Logan, Ohio? So my ultimate goal is the truth of what gives. The creature is either real or not- opinions notwithstanding. I have emailed the Dept. of Agriculture, USFS, and the USFWS for the answer.

As far as I know, no other so-called Sasquatch "researcher" or high-profile Bigfoot influencer, on TV or otherwise, has done that. I'm after an official statement on which side of the coin the truth lies. Real or not real? I want that answer and won't stop until I get it. The issue is all doors are closed and all avenues so far have been dead ends. The other issue is, no matter which way it goes, the truth will cost someone a huge pile of money which is why, so far, the OFFICIAL truth has not been forthcoming.

I am not a believer. Nor am I a non-believer. Because I am an adult, I am a seeker of the truth which, in my mind and world, is an official statement to the public on what the reality is.


Just curious as to why you feel this is your cross to bear.

If someone believes it's real, your 'official' statement ain't gonna convince them it ain't. Same as for the non-believer.

Lastly, go on and add another request for confirmation of alien life, Yah or Nay. Fairly confident you won't get an 'official' response on either request.

Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: cathryn] #8201127
08/22/24 12:17 PM
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Just for fun we should have a poll- what type of bigfoot believer or skeptic are you?

A) if it goes bump its bigfoot

B) you know longer need to believe anything, you have seen something and know it exists

C) You heard something that you know doesn't fit or cannot be explained by the behavior of normal wildlife. You then screw the pooche by posting a legitimate question on line.

D) You are skeptical because you have never personally seen anything and cite the lack of a body or fossil record (bit have not watched A Race of Giants)

E) You've never seen anything yourself but are such a superior outdoorsman and trapper that you are qualified to correct others and tell them they didnt see what they saw or hear what they heard.

Did I leave anyone out.


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Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: Researcher] #8201182
08/22/24 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Researcher
I'm primarily researching what makes the knocks as they appear on my recording. Whether or not that's a respectable or non respectable goal to someone matters not. The rest is complicated. When 20,000 people descend on Bigfoot festival in a small town called Sutton in West Virginia- population 840- one has to wonder how big of a sham the Bigfoot subject is. 50,000 in Logan, Ohio? So my ultimate goal is the truth of what gives. The creature is either real or not- opinions notwithstanding. I have emailed the Dept. of Agriculture, USFS, and the USFWS for the answer.

As far as I know, no other so-called Sasquatch "researcher" or high-profile Bigfoot influencer, on TV or otherwise, has done that. I'm after an official statement on which side of the coin the truth lies. Real or not real? I want that answer and won't stop until I get it. The issue is all doors are closed and all avenues so far have been dead ends. The other issue is, no matter which way it goes, the truth will cost someone a huge pile of money which is why, so far, the OFFICIAL truth has not been forthcoming.

I am not a believer. Nor am I a non-believer. Because I am an adult, I am a seeker of the truth which, in my mind and world, is an official statement to the public on what the reality is.


Using that logic, Paul Bunyon must be real based on town festivals in different parts of the country...heck, even leprechauns must exist because a town near me has a huge festival each year on st pattys day. I also suspect you are far from the first researcher to seek official answers or documents from government agencies ref bigfoot. Dont mean to sound harsh, just a bit of a realist on these matters. Could a yet-to-be discovered fish be living 4 miles deep in the ocean...yep. could an 8 foot bipedal hairy creature be living in north america...heck, living in nearly all 50 states based on 'sightings', without a skeleton or carcass located after all these decades and centuries of folk lore....nope.

However, it sounds like this quest keeps you active and entertained, and for that, I hope you keep it up.

Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: cathryn] #8201239
08/22/24 04:33 PM
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Hasn’t there been TV shows on Discovery or another channel where folks set out to find Bigfoot?
Again, Bigfoot is the North’s Black Panther, lol. It’s 2024 and NO ONE has ever killed one intentionally or unintentionally. Never hit by a tree, car, bullet, lightning, drowning, etc…no decent pics either. Just ain’t buying it. You hear something and it’s Bigfoot. You smell something and it’s Bigfoot. Sounds like my buddy that swore up and down on his children’s life he had a panther/puma/mountain lion screaming every night on his property. I sent him a YouTube video of a fox screaming and never heard another word about a mountain lion.

Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: cathryn] #8201280
08/22/24 06:11 PM
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I just find it odd everyone swears there couldn't be a HUMAN in the woods, but find it believable a sasquatch could be. If a 'squatch could be there, why couldn't a person?


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Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: cathryn] #8201289
08/22/24 06:41 PM
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Let's get this back to why we're all on this site.....

Has anyone tried trapping a skunk ape yet?

What size foothold should be used?

What to use for bait? Is squatch a vegan, Carnivore or omnivorous?

What type of set for Yeti? Walk through, dirt hold, scent post?

24 hour check?

Best places to trap a Bigfoot in the U.S.A.?

Should females and juveniles be released?

When is the Abominable Snowman prime?


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Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: cathryn] #8201313
08/22/24 07:12 PM
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Duke # 1 fer sher. I'd prolly hang a blue bucket for a visual attractant.

Researcher thank you for posting the link- it doesn't much sound like a bird to me and if it is it will cost me a lot to trade in my 12 gauges for s punt gun.


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Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: cathryn] #8201331
08/22/24 07:30 PM
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What about the Rock Apes on Monkey Mountian outside of Da Nang? LOTS and LOTS of GIs swear they exist.

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/vietnam-war/rock-apes-not-a-70s-rock-band.html

Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: midlander] #8201357
08/22/24 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by midlander
I also suspect you are far from the first researcher to seek official answers or documents from government agencies ref bigfoot.

However, it sounds like this quest keeps you active and entertained, and for that, I hope you keep it up.


Active, yes. Entertained, not so much. And of course I'm not the first to knock on any doors, midlander. What I said was that I know of no one currently in the Bigfoot community, or among their high-profile influencers/researchers, who is doing that. I have to ask why not? Like I said, it's complicated. Especially when one considers the high tech detection capabilities at the US/Can border where normal large animals freely cross back and forth at will. Couple that with artificial intelligence that filters out those normal animals to help make detecting Humans easier. Since a biped humanoid in any form is a biped humanoid then border surveillance should easily be able to detect a Bigfoot....IF EVEN THEY EXIST AT ALL. Because I'm not saying they do. I can't at all really. For the last few years I've just wanted to find out what makes loud percussive knock sounds in the woods at night. Key words being "at night."

@Turtledale: A grizzly hold should do nicely, LOL. At least a griz doesn't have hands grin

Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: cathryn] #8201362
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Do you have mockingbirds there they can make some strange sounds when I was a kid my cousins had one around their farm that made a hammering sound it must have picked up from my uncle pounding out horse shoes and another that would sit on the porch and imitate the sound of their old screen door from the squeak of it opening to the thump of it closing



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Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: nightlife] #8201374
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Originally Posted by nightlife
Do you have mockingbirds there they can make some strange sounds when I was a kid my cousins had one around their farm that made a hammering sound it must have picked up from my uncle pounding out horse shoes and another that would sit on the porch and imitate the sound of their old screen door from the squeak of it opening to the thump of it closing


Nice coupla anecdotes you have there. Mockingbirds? Sure, tons of them. I'm always amazed by the complexity of their brain's link to their vocal ability for imitating things both animate and inanimate.

Need to catch up here and acknowledge Leftlane's thanks for the link. You're welcome.

Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: cathryn] #8201454
08/22/24 10:15 PM
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Here is what I have observed about sounds in the outdoors. The sound which you hear from distance is often quite different than what its source sounds like up close.
1) I was walking around one Fall afternoon and heard a low frequency humming sound passing by 10 feet above my head travelling at to fast rate of speed, followed by a "POOF" sound. I also heard a loud cracking sound in a nearby tree. This was repeated 3 times in rapid succession. I had no clue what it was until a big orange creature topped the hill, heading toward me carrying a slug gun. He looked like Elmer Fudd.
I never heard anything which sounded like a shotgun going off because when it is shot pretty much straight at you the sound dissipates in all directions, leaving very little of the sound to go forward. I will say this, that one ounce of lead whizzing by 10 feet over your head is an evil sound that I care not to ever hear again.

2) I was in Southern Illinois during the peak the cicada armageddon. The millions of cicadas which you hear in all directions sounds like a one note, low frequency droning sound, while the ones close to you make a high frequency, relatively short bursts of screaming. Same bug, different distances sounds completely different. Not even close to the same sound, yet they are all making the same relatively short burst screaming sound.

I am suggesting that we consider this phenomenon when trying to decipher what we are hearing compared to what that sound may actually sound like near its source.

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Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: cathryn] #8201498
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Good points, 52Carl, thanks. High pitched sounds get absorbed much quicker that low frequency waves which travel much further. Think whale calls through miles of ocean water and elephants that sense low frequency vibrations at distance through their foot pads. Sorry you had to experience the "evil sound". Good that you're here to relate the story. Coulda been much worse. I was hiking one day back in my 20's, heard a small rifle go off from across a large pond and saw the .22 ricochet off the surface of the pond and tear into the leaves over my head. I yelled out, "Don't shoot!" I know it was a .22 because I met up with the young shooter a little later who went white when I told him it was me.

I joined up here to see if cathryn or Mainewoods have anything to say about my recording. It's been a coupla days so maybe they don't. This is probably not the Forum to go into primate evolutionary genetics, LOL, so it might be time for me to move on. I would like to thank Admin for approving my membership and say that I've enjoyed engaging with everyone here and have appreciated and respected your input and comments. Good luck with your sets and be safe.

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Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: cathryn] #8201528
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Thank you Researcher, I personally like to read about others' experiences, as I think that is how we will ultimately come to the most complete conclusion of what is happening in the wild.


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Re: 3 knocks in the woods? Help [Re: cathryn] #8201558
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We live in a world of satellite thermal imaging not to mention drones. If there is a species not yet documented in the U.S., the size bigfoot is supposed to be, living in remote areas, it would be a simple thing to prove it.


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