We had a 60 day probation period.Cant or wont do the job.GONE.Nothing the Union could do about it.After that,,,if cant or wont do the job.GONE.The Union can object,,then it goes to an unbiased arbitrator agreed to by both company and union.If they say ,yes there is proof the guy isnt doing his job,,,then poof hes gone.Those that say Union members cant be fired are imbeciles.

Why did you make this thread PF? It seems as though your point has been countered several times over, yet you continue...why?

"When we say Donald Trump is a scab, this is what we mean," UAW President Shawn Fain said in a statement. "When we say Trump stands against everything our union stands for, this is what we mean."

"Donald Trump will always side against workers standing up for themselves, and he will always side with billionaires like Elon Musk, who is contributing $45 million a month to a super PAC to get him elected. Both Trump and Musk want working class people to sit down and shut up, and they laugh about it openly. It's disgusting, illegal, and totally predictable from these two clowns," Fain added.

Source: Fox Business, August 2024

Don't ever think unions aren't political.
They don't like the direction their leader is taking them, the leader disappears .

Yukon John

more than once I have clearly stated this but will do so again.

all the union bashers didn't seem to want to believe my first hand accounts that at least 70% of the members in my plant don't vote democrat. This shows the same thing from a left leaning news source. it proves exactly what I have been saying..

The majority of union members don't vote democrat. So how have I been proven wrong want to try again?

In all the years I was a union member, the union always indorsed democrats!
Wonder why?

Ever wonder how many democrat votes your union money bought?

I don't wanna hear any say anything about censorship on this forum after 8 pages of this

ever feel like your being baited ?

"Biden won 57% of union households nationwide compared with 40% for Trump, according to Edison Research, which produces exit polling for major news organizations. That was double Hillary Clinton’s eight-point edge with union households in 2016."

57% is a majority of union members. I thought maybe I had to spell that out?

I'm sure they do their polling outside the democrats cities.

P Diddy just got busted for Epstein type stuff.

The Majority of the U.S. population live in cities. News Flash!

Amazes and infuriates me the stuff Union members " bring home".

One instance. A 49er buddy years ago asked me I wanted some good tape. Sure I said.
He gave me about 10 rolls of some incredible 3M tape.
Asked him where he got it. Answer was.., we had a big box delivered of it at the jobsite and an operator backed up, clipped the corner of the box (ruined one roll) and rejected the whole box! Like maybe 100 rolls!

Friend gave me several Full 20# propane tanks. They had " minor scuffs" so were rejected.
Friend came home with a trailer load of 2" 4x8 pink foam insulation. 50 sheets.
Over run was the reason. Couldn't take it back for extended so his " Forman" gave it to him.
Friend had about 15 pair of high quality neoprene waders in his garage. All brand new in the boxes.
Same story as the last one above.

The $$$/ theft that goes on is MINDBLOWING!!

Yes, Union higher ups endorse Democrats.
No, Union members don’t have to vote Democrat and I personally don’t know one that does.
And No not even our local president promotes Democrats and will tell you straight up he votes Republican. We know how much money we made when Trump was in office, lol.

With that said, our TA that brought us off strike, includes a 19% raise over the 5 year contract. So someone tell me why a company that sends out emails every quarter of billion dollar profits shouldn’t be bargained with about money? If your employees are making you that kind of money, compensate them! They’re gonna make it I won’t want to retire in 5yrs, lol.

Don't sound like you were infuriated enough to not accept the free tape.

That's mind-blowing !

Look at Boeing vrs starlink

The best and brightest aren’t working at Boeing,,,

Union’s breed mediocrity

I won't deny that this might be true in some unions.
It's not the case in the building trades.
If you don't know you're trade and pull your weight,you don't work.
The lackeys don't get to drag everyone else on the crew down.
They do a good job of weeding themselves out.
Your work is your reputation
Your reputation keeps you working
Or keeps you from working
Pretty simple concept in the building trades

Longshoremen used to (and probably still do) describe this type of merchandise as having "fallen off the truck". A bunch of white-trash thieves.

Are you guys insinuating that theft doesn't go on in non union shops?