Unions SHOULD be a company. They're basically temp agencies but with legal monopolies. Eg, should be Bob's Welders and BIlly's Welders, and Rosey's Welders. They make a contract for x dollars amount paid to the union and the union pays the welders. Just like every other third party vendor that works in this country. That way everyone knows who the problem is and can switch labor companies if they think the ones they work for now are on the road to self destruction.

I hate me some unions daily

Y’all must have totally different Unions than we have. We have nothing even close to that, lol. That’s a temp agency that bids out for jobs. Instead of being mad at the Union, I think I’d be more upset with the company utilizing that process, lol.

Again. All unions are not the same.

Sometimes, but then I just play along for pitty sake

Y’all must have totally different Unions than we have. We have nothing even close to that, lol. That’s a temp agency that bids out for jobs. Instead of being mad at the Union, I think I’d be more upset with the company utilizing that process, lol.[/quote]
Reading comprehension.., what I said is how unions should be treated. As separate entities which the money flows from company, to "union" to employees. Not as a insurgent force within the company.

Even in Shasta county, where it gets national coverage for being heavily far right racist homophobic xenophobic white heterosexual male. I worked with a few union guys and they were full blown democrats. Unlike any other person I e ever worked with

Me either!

How bout a show of hands here.

How many of you ol boys bash any and all unions, yet sit down to watch professional football on Sunday, Monday and Thursday or whenever it's on ?

Probably even own one or 2 of those over priced jerseys or hoodies don't ya ?

Fess up boys and be honest !

Haha, you hit a sore subject there. The so called Patriots on here even defended them for taking a knee, lol. Of course they don’t care if they’re union, they just don’t want the blue collar man to make any money. Don’t know of too many non-management nonunion guys retiring as millionaires either. Not saying there aren’t any, I just know more Union guys retiring that way.

Here is statement from Teamsters as to why they did not endorse any candidates. This was taken from Teamsters website.

International Union Cites Strong Political Divides, Few Commitments from Candidates
Press Contact: Kara Deniz Phone: (202) 497-6610 Email: kdeniz@teamster.org
(WASHINGTON) — The General Executive Board of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters on Wednesday elected not to endorse any candidate for U.S. President.

After reviewing six months of nationwide member polling and wrapping up nearly a year of rank-and-file roundtable interviews with all major candidates for the presidency, the union was left with few commitments on top Teamsters issues from either former President Donald Trump or Vice President Kamala Harris—and found no definitive support among members for either party’s nominee.

In data publicly released earlier in the day, President Joe Biden won the support of Teamsters voting in straw polls at local unions between April-July prior to his exit from the race. But in independent electronic and phone polling from July-September, a majority of voting members twice selected Trump for a possible Teamsters endorsement over Harris.

The union’s extensive member polling showed no majority support for Vice President Harris and no universal support among the membership for President Trump.

“The Teamsters thank all candidates for meeting with members face-to-face during our unprecedented roundtables. Unfortunately, neither major candidate was able to make serious commitments to our union to ensure the interests of working people are always put before Big Business. We sought commitments from both Trump and Harris not to interfere in critical union campaigns or core Teamsters industries—and to honor our members’ right to strike—but were unable to secure those pledges,” said Teamsters General President Sean M. O’Brien.

“Our mission as union representatives is clear: to be honest and upfront, to be inclusive and, above all, to be transparent with our membership. As the strongest and most democratic labor union in America, it was vital for our members to drive this endorsement process. Democrats, Republicans, and Independents proudly call our union home, and we have a duty to represent and respect every one of them. We strongly encourage all our members to vote in the upcoming election, and to remain engaged in the political process. But this year, no candidate for President has earned the endorsement of the Teamsters’ International Union.”

During the Teamsters Rank-and-file Presidential Roundtables, the union shared feedback from members in the railroad and airline industries who work under the Railway Labor Act (RLA) and are at the mercy of government intervention that often prevents work stoppages. While 10,000 Teamsters at United Airlines are currently negotiating a new agreement, tens of thousands of railroad Teamsters were forced to accept a new contract implemented by Congress without member support in 2022. In roundtable discussions with Trump in January and Harris this month, neither candidate promised not to intervene to force similar RLA contracts, which undermines workers’ bargaining leverage.

While Harris pledged, if elected, to sign the PRO Act, an essential piece of labor legislation strengthening union protections, and criticized dangerous “right to work” laws that are enacted to bankrupt unions, Trump would not commit to veto national “right to work” legislation if he returned to the White House.

“‘Right to work’ laws only exist to try to kill labor unions,” said Teamsters General Secretary-Treasurer Fred Zuckerman. “It is a red line for the Teamsters and must be for any union when a candidate for elected office does not oppose such anti-worker legislation. It’s too important an issue for the labor movement as a whole to be left up to state legislatures.”

Founded in 1903, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters represents 1.3 million hardworking people in the U.S., Canada, and Puerto Rico. Visit Teamster.org for more information. Follow us on Twitter @Teamsters and “like” us on Facebook at Facebook.com/teamsters.

Quite telling.
Thanks for posting that, Beeman.

Unions are about the money and not the men in the trenches. They all want to destroy this country by voting for the demon rats all they care about is their work and not this country.

Spot on.

Osky

I was a union member years ago, this post is not to bash.
I see an overpower like the union a bit like I do the government. The less the better. Both needed maybe for minutia here and there sure but for the most part get out of the way.
It says NIETHER side gave commitments to the union. Fine. So that’s a wash. Doesn’t that leave the wishes of the membership as the voice? The upper Elites of the Union are supposedly the voice of the membership no?
Kind of reminds me of the government these days and how little it cares what the constituents desires are. We gotta pass the bill, so we can read what’s in the bill type of deal.
Sadly in this case the union and government are birds of a feather in their disdain for the masses. Wasn’t supposed to be that way as I recall.

Osky

It certainly looks as if it might be a sore subject with everyone.
No one will admit guilt. YET.
Wait a few hours til the games start and game threads start
Lol

I'm glad that I can say that I have not watched a single minute of any NFL game since the Colin Kaepernick shenanigans took place. I didn't watch very much before that, they totally lost me when that crap happened.

"More than 20 local Teamsters groups have parted ways with the national organization to endorse Vice President Kamala Harris in the presidential election.

Why it matters: That support represents one million members including councils in battleground states of Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, per the Harris campaign.

It also is at odds with the national organization's decision not to endorse a candidate even though the union representing 1.3 million members had historically endorsed Democrats. That includes President Biden in 2020."

Source: Axios

Teamsters regional councils — representing hundreds of thousands of members and retirees — in Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada and western Pennsylvania — endorsed Harris hours after Teamsters President Sean O’Brien revealed Wednesday that the union would withhold its endorsement, saying, “neither major candidate was able to make serious commitments to our union.”

Separately, powerful local Teamsters unions in Philadelphia; New York City; Long Beach, Calif.; and Miami — as well as the union’s National Black Caucus and a group of retirees — have endorsed Harris and urged members to vote for her.

Source: Wash. Post

I'm watching the Vikings vs. Texans game right now. But then, I don't care who is in a union and who isn't.

I despise all unions and can truthfully say I have not watched any football game in at least sixty years

well white men watching men in tights run around chasing a ball is kind of well.....

As far as unions I guess you would rather people be living in company housing and shopping at the company store . they have quite a few problems but have done a ton of good.

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