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North Dakota rats #8251256
11/01/24 11:18 PM
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How is your population looking like there? I see lots of rats up here in farmland Saskatchewan. Most seam very small.

Re: North Dakota rats [Re: lots of mink] #8251280
11/02/24 12:55 AM
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Nonexistent in the northeast corner of the state. I have not seen huts for 20 years now. I had a blast 35 years ago trapping them over Christmas school break. Hardly see any mink here either. We do have some type of larger than normal and very aggressive cattail taking over the waterways. I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not

Re: North Dakota rats [Re: lots of mink] #8251316
11/02/24 05:50 AM
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Quite awhile ago that trapper from New York was going to go out there and trap rats. Think when we had that last price rise in rat pelts. I vaguely remember him saying he went out there scouting and said the rat sign was unbelievable but not sure what part of the state he was looking. Wonder if he ever went out there and trapped.

Re: North Dakota rats [Re: lots of mink] #8251317
11/02/24 05:53 AM
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DRF, if the trapper you're talking about was from PA, not NY, he went out there and if I remember correctly, caught like 1007 in about a week.

Re: North Dakota rats [Re: lots of mink] #8251319
11/02/24 05:58 AM
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Wow that’s a lot of rats! Especially for just a weeks time.

Re: North Dakota rats [Re: lots of mink] #8251326
11/02/24 06:13 AM
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When the stars align the Dakotas are as exceptional as anyplace on earth. The explosiveness there is mind blowing. Opportunities endless.

As far as muskrats are concerned, if god made any spot better, he kept it for himself.

Re: North Dakota rats [Re: lots of mink] #8251327
11/02/24 06:18 AM
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And to think, DRF, that same guy caught over a thousand fox that same season. Was a good year to trap. I only caught 138 muskrats that year but was very happy with my 10.90 average.

Re: North Dakota rats [Re: Skogmann] #8251371
11/02/24 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Skogmann
Nonexistent in the northeast corner of the state. I have not seen huts for 20 years now. I had a blast 35 years ago trapping them over Christmas school break. Hardly see any mink here either. We do have some type of larger than normal and very aggressive cattail taking over the waterways. I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not



If you are speaking of phragmites, yes it sux!!


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Re: North Dakota rats [Re: beachcomber13] #8251421
11/02/24 09:10 AM
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My partner and I caught 2,500 In about a month In the eastern part of ND. And 90% of those rats were living In bank dens.



Originally Posted by beachcomber13
DRF, if the trapper you're talking about was from PA, not NY, he went out there and if I remember correctly, caught like 1007 in about a week.


I was setting up a NAFA collection point In Sharon ND and he dropped off those rats. It was more then a week but still a lot of rats In a short time. I even put up those rats for him after they got back to WI.

The other guy your talking about was from Ny he went out scouting and said all he was going to use were 160s. Then he made some excuse that someone stole all his 160 out of his shed.


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Re: North Dakota rats [Re: lots of mink] #8251431
11/02/24 09:29 AM
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My rat population is not good. I am 25 miles out of Minot to the west, 100 miles south of Canada. Seeing two or five rats on one slough here, does not make a great number. A lot of sloughs that hold rats at times have none. When you walk a slough and there is two bank holes, there is not many rats. The water is low and dropping here. There is a island showing in a slough where I ever saw one. From what I have seen rats do much better on rising water levels then dropping. The last rain I had was Sept 16th 35/100s.

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Re: North Dakota rats [Re: lots of mink] #8252098
11/03/24 12:25 AM
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With no measurable rain in the SE and central N.D in the last 4 months. all the sloughs are way down or dry. It's a terrible year for rats.

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Re: North Dakota rats [Re: lots of mink] #8252243
11/03/24 08:52 AM
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Mother Nature tends to roll with extremes. It’s feast or famine. Probably more famine. That’s way we gorge in times of feast.

Re: North Dakota rats [Re: MJM] #8253171
11/04/24 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MJM
My rat population is not good. I am 25 miles out of Minot to the west, 100 miles south of Canada. Seeing two or five rats on one slough here, does not make a great number. A lot of sloughs that hold rats at times have none. When you walk a slough and there is two bank holes, there is not many rats. The water is low and dropping here. There is a island showing in a slough where I ever saw one. From what I have seen rats do much better on rising water levels then dropping. The last rain I had was Sept 16th 35/100s.


Good to hear from you mjm
I set five traps side by side touching and got ten rats first check. All of them smaller than an XL. Not one big rat. What does that mean ? Our water levels are dropping too but we were wet spring and summer.

Re: North Dakota rats [Re: lots of mink] #8253224
11/04/24 08:06 AM
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Those rats would have gained a size over winter.
They were the first litter rats this spring, second litter they are kit size

Re: North Dakota rats [Re: lots of mink] #8253247
11/04/24 08:30 AM
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lots of mink good to here from you too. Our rats run small in size compared to some areas. I get a few XLs, but not that many XXl's. The population seems to go up and down a lot. It seems like it has been more down for the last 30 years. It is not just the water levels, to me that affects the population. We had record water levels in 2011 and still did not have near the number of rats I have seen before. Back when I ran my dog a lot around the area he would often find dead rats on the water edge or just out of the water a few yards from the water. I know every dies, but I saw more dead rats teen everything else combined. I would looked the rats over and could see no cause of death. It would be in the fall before freeze up.


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Re: North Dakota rats [Re: lots of mink] #8253274
11/04/24 09:26 AM
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At one point I took samples because the rat population has a separate hanti virus in their system. It is slightly different from the deer mouse hanti. It does build up in the fall vs tuleremia which is mostly spring/summer

Re: North Dakota rats [Re: MJM] #8253498
11/04/24 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MJM
lots of mink good to here from you too. Our rats run small in size compared to some areas. I get a few XLs, but not that many XXl's. The population seems to go up and down a lot. It seems like it has been more down for the last 30 years. It is not just the water levels, to me that affects the population. We had record water levels in 2011 and still did not have near the number of rats I have seen before. Back when I ran my dog a lot around the area he would often find dead rats on the water edge or just out of the water a few yards from the water. I know every dies, but I saw more dead rats teen everything else combined. I would looked the rats over and could see no cause of death. It would be in the fall before freeze up.



I’ve found dead rats back east and out west here. Seams like a lot of bigger ones go overland in fall and spring. At times farmers dogs can catch half a dozen right in the farmers yard up on dry land. I’ve never found any along the edge of water but in the huts I’ve reached in and pulled out many dead rats.

Back east I’ve found them dead along streams and ditches we always attributed that to rabbit fever tulerriamia.

Re: North Dakota rats [Re: lots of mink] #8253506
11/04/24 03:48 PM
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Planing a trip thru N. Dakota next year, what's a good route that I'll see some rat territory going from east to west?


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Re: North Dakota rats [Re: hippie] #8253544
11/04/24 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by hippie
Planing a trip thru N. Dakota next year, what's a good route that I'll see some rat territory going from east to west?


Highway 200 or Highway 2 (east to west) will both bring you through the prairie potholes.


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