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Re: Middle Class [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8266920
11/20/24 08:35 PM
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Poor, middle Class, rich, and wealthy, will ALWAYS be defined according to the current "social times". . . and it doesn't necessarily pertain to money :-)


"Humans are the hardest people to get along with."
Dr. Phillip Snow
Re: Middle Class [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8267265
11/21/24 08:04 AM
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This gives more importance to teaching kids starting to work to invest as much of their income as possible, as soon as they have enough to open an account.

Decades if growth are the best possibility to retire before 80 years old.

Re: Middle Class [Re: 3togo] #8267270
11/21/24 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 3togo
This gives more importance to teaching kids starting to work to invest as much of their income as possible, as soon as they have enough to open an account.

Decades if growth are the best possibility to retire before 80 years old.


Agree with this. Also, map out a plan for success for your kids early. Talk to them often about college, trade school and the military. Talk to them often about career options, making a living and their future.

Re: Middle Class [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8267273
11/21/24 08:21 AM
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Federal poverty level for 2025 Persons in family/household 100% FPL


1 $15,060
2 $20,440
3 $25,820
4 $31,200

Re: Middle Class [Re: 3togo] #8267302
11/21/24 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 3togo
This gives more importance to teaching kids starting to work to invest as much of their income as possible, as soon as they have enough to open an account.

Decades if growth are the best possibility to retire before 80 years old.


Gave the grandbaby 100 shares for his first birthday, is that soon enough?


-Goofy
Re: Middle Class [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8267315
11/21/24 09:35 AM
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A banana and a piece of duck tape might have been the better investment, at today's prices anyway.

Re: Middle Class [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8267332
11/21/24 09:58 AM
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Energy isn’t going away, period so I like his chances over a banana.


-Goofy
Re: Middle Class [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8267348
11/21/24 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Between $52,000 and $98,500/yr. Do you agree?

....dang ..so I'm upper middle class cool

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Re: Middle Class [Re: Wolfdog91] #8267349
11/21/24 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Between $52,000 and $98,500/yr. Do you agree?

....dang ..so I'm upper middle class cool


You’re always working your tail off so you should be.


-Goofy
Re: Middle Class [Re: Wolfdog91] #8267352
11/21/24 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Between $52,000 and $98,500/yr. Do you agree?

....dang ..so I'm upper middle class cool


Keep paying in that Social Security, us old people are depending on you !

Re: Middle Class [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8267430
11/21/24 11:50 AM
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It all depends how bad you are with money.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Middle Class [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8267441
11/21/24 12:06 PM
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To me a better definition of Middle. lower or upper class could be defined by the amount of descretionary income a household has after deducting the typical or median living costs for the area one lives in. Inflation puts a lot of so called middle income households into lower income households. For those hoping to see a significant drop in living costs don't hold your breath. Abouot 10 years ago when fertilizer, seed, chemicals, fuel and land rents went way up they have not come down hardly any even though prices for the products have gone up and down considerably. Evidently there was or is too much cash that used to be used for discretionary purchases that are now being used for fuel, food, housing, clothing etc. I don't see that changing much if at all. If we deport a lot of undocumented workers the housing shortage will worsen considerably.

Bryce

Re: Middle Class [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8267470
11/21/24 12:56 PM
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If we deport 30,000,000 illegals that should open up houses and apartments they are currently living in.

Re: Middle Class [Re: Dirt] #8267479
11/21/24 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
It all depends how bad you are with money.

Agreed. If you don’t owe any money….mortgage, car payments, CC bills, $52,000 would work for a retired couple.

Re: Middle Class [Re: Bigbrownie] #8267490
11/21/24 01:19 PM
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I don’t fit in to those money bracket’s. Guess that means I don’t have no class at all.

Re: Middle Class [Re: SJA] #8267576
11/21/24 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SJA
Poor, middle Class, rich, and wealthy, will ALWAYS be defined according to the current "social times". . . and it doesn't necessarily pertain to money :-)

Yep, there's a big difference between standard of living and quality of life. There's a lot of stuff out there that seems to be "normal" for the American Middle Class that I simply cannot afford. I am, however, convinced that my family and I live a better life than most of the American Middle Class, not just in spite of our lower standard of living, but often because of it.

Re: Middle Class [Re: 3togo] #8267687
11/21/24 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 3togo
This gives more importance to teaching kids starting to work to invest as much of their income as possible, as soon as they have enough to open an account.

Decades if growth are the best possibility to retire before 80 years old.

I'd rather have lots of real-estate to be honest.

Re: Middle Class [Re: Rat Masterson] #8267704
11/21/24 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
If we deport 30,000,000 illegals that should open up houses and apartments they are currently living in.


It should. We should also confiscate all of the illegal aliens property to lower the burden on Americans who pay tax.

Keith

Re: Middle Class [Re: KeithC] #8267711
11/21/24 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
If we deport 30,000,000 illegals that should open up houses and apartments they are currently living in.


It should. We should also confiscate all of the illegal aliens property to lower the burden on Americans who pay tax.

Keith


Oh, someone will get it, but not likely the tax payers


Stop over cooking your meat! It isn’t gamey, it’s over cooked!

Gordon Ramsey, maybe…
Re: Middle Class [Re: WI Outdoors] #8267712
11/21/24 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
Originally Posted by 3togo
This gives more importance to teaching kids starting to work to invest as much of their income as possible, as soon as they have enough to open an account.

Decades if growth are the best possibility to retire before 80 years old.

I'd rather have lots of real-estate to be honest.



That would be awesome. But it still feels like renting it from the government.

Miss a couple tax payments and see who really owns it. lol.


Are there any states without a property tax?


Stop over cooking your meat! It isn’t gamey, it’s over cooked!

Gordon Ramsey, maybe…
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