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Re: THE NATIONAL CARRY BILL
[Re: danny clifton]
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 01/12/25 09:48 AM
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I like the no magazine capacity limit, requirement to pay legal bills if the bill ignored. A lot of good stuff. I have a feeling that states who will issue a license mail order to non residents, are going to make some money. My state and other constitutional carry states may lose some as no one will pay for a license as it wont be needed anywhere.
  Long past due IMO. 
 
  
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Re: THE NATIONAL CARRY BILL
[Re: danny clifton]
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 01/12/25 09:59 AM
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State self defense laws might be a problem if you need use it. Many communist states are almost as bad as England when it comes to defense of self or others. 
 
  
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Re: THE NATIONAL CARRY BILL
[Re: danny clifton]
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 01/12/25 10:31 AM
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State self defense laws might be a problem if you need use it. Many communist states are almost as bad as England when it comes to defense of self or others. Yep.  Even if they let us carry without a permit, it would still be a pain and financial disaster possibly if you had to use  it in self defense.   Rules for me but not for them.  
 
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Re: THE NATIONAL CARRY BILL
[Re: danny clifton]
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Re: THE NATIONAL CARRY BILL
[Re: danny clifton]
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 01/12/25 10:58 AM
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I'm hoping it will pass in some form. Being on a boarder with MN it should save me the couple hundred dollars it cost me for my MN permit. MN likes to fight WI on reciprocity on more than one issue CC is one. Time ever comed guy needs to actually use their carry gun. Going to be a bad mess sorting it out no matter the laws or state.
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Re: THE NATIONAL CARRY BILL
[Re: danny clifton]
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 01/12/25 11:09 AM
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  Time ever comed guy needs to actually use their carry gun. Going to be a bad mess sorting it out no matter the laws or state.   Still better than dead. probably cheaper to just hand over your wallet and hope for the best. not sure I can do that though.  
 
  
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Re: THE NATIONAL CARRY BILL
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 01/12/25 12:34 PM
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I like the no magazine capacity limit, requirement to pay legal bills if the bill ignored. A lot of good stuff. I have a feeling that states who will issue a license mail order to non residents, are going to make some money. My state and other constitutional carry states may lose some as no one will pay for a license as it wont be needed anywhere.
  Long past due IMO.   Danny,  I think you might  be  misreading this.   The  way  I read  the  text  of  the  bill   a person  will  still  be  required  to possess a CC  permit  from  his  own  state  of residence,  in  addition  to  a government  issued piece  of  photo  ID.    “(1) an individual who is not prohibited by Federal law from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm, and who is carrying a government-issued photographic identification document  and a valid license or permit which is issued pursuant to the law of a State and which permits the individual to carry a concealed firearm, may possess or carry a concealed handgun (other than a machinegun or destructive device) that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce in any State other than the State of residence of the individual that—" I am  just  pleased  that this  is NOT  a federal  CC  permit.  
 
  
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Re: THE NATIONAL CARRY BILL
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I like the no magazine capacity limit, requirement to pay legal bills if the bill ignored. A lot of good stuff. I have a feeling that states who will issue a license mail order to non residents, are going to make some money. My state and other constitutional carry states may lose some as no one will pay for a license as it wont be needed anywhere.
  Long past due IMO.   Danny,  I think you might  be  misreading this.   The  way  I read  the  text  of  the  bill   a person  will  still  be  required  to possess a CC  permit  from  his  own  state  of residence,  in  addition  to  a government  issued piece  of  photo  ID.    “(1) an individual who is not prohibited by Federal law from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm, and who is carrying a government-issued photographic identification document  and a valid license or permit which is issued pursuant to the law of a State and which permits the individual to carry a concealed firearm, may possess or carry a concealed handgun (other than a machinegun or destructive device) that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce in any State other than the State of residence of the individual that—" I am  just  pleased  that this  is NOT  a federal  CC  permit.      So then how would that work for states like mine that do not require a CC permit?  If I don't have a CC permit because my state doesn't require it, would I be allowed to travel through other states with a concealed handgun?  
 
  
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Re: THE NATIONAL CARRY BILL
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 01/12/25 01:11 PM
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    Danny,  I think you might  be  misreading this.   The  way  I read  the  text  of  the  bill   a person  will  still  be  required  to possess a CC  permit  from  his  own  state  of residence,  in  addition  to  a government  issued piece  of  photo  ID.   
  “(1) an individual who is not prohibited by Federal law from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm, and who is carrying a government-issued photographic identification document and a valid license or permit which is issued pursuant to the law of a State and which permits the individual to carry a concealed firearm, may possess or carry a concealed handgun (other than a machinegun or destructive device) that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce in any State other than the State of residence of the individual that—"
  I am  just  pleased  that this  is NOT  a federal  CC  permit.     
 So then how would that work for states like mine that do not require a CC permit?  If I don't have a CC permit because my state doesn't require it, would I be allowed to travel through other states with a concealed handgun?  Just my  opinion.........I  think  you  would  not be allowed   to  carry  in  another  state  that DOES require  a permit  if  you  state  does  not.   However.....if  your state ......like  mine.......  doesn't  require  a  permit  but  DOES  make  one  available.......then  it seems reasonable to me that you will be  required to  have  a  permit  from your  state.   Otherwise.......lets  pretend  you go  to  California (for  some  completely  irrational reason)   where   a California  resident  is  required  to  have  a CC  permit.    It  would  not  be  equitable  to   allow  you  to CC  in  CA   without   a permit  while  California  residents  must  have   a  permit..........IMO  
 
  
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Re: THE NATIONAL CARRY BILL
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 01/12/25 01:23 PM
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The repercussions are what always make me afraid of what would happen if I had to defend myself or my family, but i guess they beat being dead.
  Shame how things work in some situations. Land of the free, right.  Lol  
 
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Re: THE NATIONAL CARRY BILL
[Re: danny clifton]
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 01/12/25 01:26 PM
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Yes, like IN and AK, my state does have CC permits available so that's definitely an option.  I was just curious how the issue of states that don't mandate CC permits would be handled under this legislation. 
 
  
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Re: THE NATIONAL CARRY BILL
[Re: danny clifton]
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 01/12/25 02:18 PM
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Will likely end up in court. GOA etc are saying  no license required if you live in a constitutional carry state. 
 
  
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