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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: ~ADC~] #8317453
01/19/25 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
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It would nice if we can get suppressors treated the same as a fire arm.


They should be treated like scopes or any other accessory you add to a gun.



I don't disagree, realistically I think we will always have to fill out a 4473 to obtain one.


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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: white marlin] #8317464
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by Yes sir
In the long haul it's not the politicians that are to fear it's the moral values of the general population that will "allow " it to happen.


Malcolm X once said [paraphrased]: 'Only a Fool would allow his enemies to educate his children'

We have been Fools for generations! Until we get ACTIVELY involved in our kids' education, we are at extreme risk of losing even MORE of our Freedoms!



Like homeschooling!!! I never had quite looked at it that directly before but he was correct.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317465
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In Trump I trust.


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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: ~ADC~] #8317479
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
No matter what, Trump beats the alternative on all fronts.

This is true. Trump is better than Harris (or Biden) would have been. But not being awful on the 2a doesn't equal being awesome on the 2a. Trump is luke-warm at best when it comes to gun rights. A politician who's natural inclination is to say "I like taking the guns first and doing due process later" isn't a friend of the 2a (or the 4th, or the 14th, for that matter).

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: loosegoose] #8317482
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by ~ADC~
No matter what, Trump beats the alternative on all fronts.

This is true. Trump is better than Harris (or Biden) would have been. But not being awful on the 2a doesn't equal being awesome on the 2a. Trump is luke-warm at best when it comes to gun rights. A politician who's natural inclination is to say "I like taking the guns first and doing due process later" isn't a friend of the 2a (or the 4th, or the 14th, for that matter).


You nailed it.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317495
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I do think President Trump is pro 2nd amendment... and it's a good thing he is in power..... but things change.... don't get rid of the ARs or ammo stockpiles just yet !!


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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: NebrCatMan] #8317511
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Originally Posted by NebrCatMan
I do think President Trump is pro 2nd amendment... and it's a good thing he is in power..... but things change.... don't get rid of the ARs or ammo stockpiles just yet !!


" Take the guns first due process latter" " I don't like the idea of them" referring to suppressors. And of course the bump stock ban.

I think my idea of pro gun is different. Pro gun is pro all guns not only approved guns with certain features and being for zero restrictions even when it's not popular in a poll after a shooting.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317513
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Trump is a city man. High roller that has associated with people like him his whole life. Never needed to arm his self or protect chickens and livestock. Never hunted for food or fun or got into any shooting sports. Like a lot of NYCityers he has is prone to run his mouth. I think there are people around him giving him good advice on the 2nd and the reason it was recognized so many years ago.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317514
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Trump said he would fire the Director of the ATF but the guy just resigned first. He hasn’t nominated a replacement yet..I’m thinking white marlin. grin


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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: danny clifton] #8317515
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Trump is a city man. High roller that has associated with people like him his whole life. Never needed to arm his self or protect chickens and livestock. Never hunted for food or fun or got into any shooting sports. Like a lot of NYCityers he has is prone to run his mouth. I think there are people around him giving him good advice on the 2nd and the reason it was recognized so many years ago.



I may be wrong but I believe I read someplace that Trump has had a CC Permit for years.


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: 160user] #8317520
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Originally Posted by 160user
Originally Posted by danny clifton
Trump is a city man. High roller that has associated with people like him his whole life. Never needed to arm his self or protect chickens and livestock. Never hunted for food or fun or got into any shooting sports. Like a lot of NYCityers he has is prone to run his mouth. I think there are people around him giving him good advice on the 2nd and the reason it was recognized so many years ago.



I may be wrong but I believe I read someplace that Trump has had a CC Permit for years.



Yes he has or had a New York permit ( may not be valid with the federal conviction.

But that only makes the case for rules for thee not for me being only the very Ritch and connected could obtain a permit in New York at the time

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: corky] #8317666
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Originally Posted by corky
Trump said he would fire the Director of the ATF but the guy just resigned first. He hasn’t nominated a replacement yet..I’m thinking white marlin. grin


grin

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: 160user] #8317678
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Originally Posted by 160user



I may be wrong but I believe I read someplace that Trump has had a CC Permit for years.


I'm sure he did, and it's not surprising. I'm sure Harris wasn't lying when she said she owns a gun, too. It's not that politicians, especially lefties are afraid of the guns, it's the power that a gun gives someone that scares them. They have no problem grabbing that power for themselves, they just don't want you and I to have that that power too. Biden, Harris, and Trump all get protected by dudes with full-auto subguns everywhere they go. Do you think they want you and I to have the same power?

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Bruce T] #8317681
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In Trump I trust.

Never a good idea to trust any politician.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317706
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as the constitution is written, every federal gun law is unconstitutional, and every state gun law goes against the SC decision of marbury vs. madison. so I pay little attention to them

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Providence Farm] #8317715
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm



Did we loose anything under Biden how about under Trump?

Words aside actions matter right! I'm optimistic and hopeful but still very cautious and watchful.


YES,

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/25/politics/biden-signs-gun-bill/index.html


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: hippie] #8317748
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Originally Posted by hippie
Originally Posted by Providence Farm



Did we loose anything under Biden how about under Trump?

Words aside actions matter right! I'm optimistic and hopeful but still very cautious and watchful.


YES,

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/25/politics/biden-signs-gun-bill/index.html



Dude that is just gun safety. More money for red flag laws, target private sales, and domestic issues people that already likey were breaking the law.

That went through congress. bs yes yet

Not one bit as bad as Trump and his executive order. And spare me the 4 d chess crap.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317751
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BS until someone uses the now fully funded red flag laws on you, and you lose ALL your guns.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8317753
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In Trump I trust.Amen


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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Providence Farm] #8317754
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amendment 10 comes to mind.

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