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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8318108
01/20/25 01:16 PM
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This speech is IN YOUR FACE DEMOCRATS! lol


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8318118
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He eo a ban on bump stocks With NRA support. It was eventually overturned by Trump Judges. It set the stage For the Biden white house to push th A T F to go after pistol braces and declare them sbrs. A lot of peo got in on the free registration of sbr during that time. That was also determined by the court that The ATF went out side it's power to determine that and only congress could make that change.

Both are thing of the past. And it can be argued and is That it was a a planed move by Trump to about
void it geting passed in congress( hard to get rid of) knowing it would not stand in the courts so was a 4 d chess move. I would love to believe this but it very hard when Trum has said things like take the guns first due process latter and I don't like the idea of them.when talking about suppressors.

Regardless fingers crossed he will do better this round and the garbage has been tossed out . It's time to celebrate.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Providence Farm] #8318127
01/20/25 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
He eo a ban on bump stocks With NRA support. It was eventually overturned by Trump Judges. It set the stage For the Biden white house to push th A T F to go after pistol braces and declare them sbrs. A lot of peo got in on the free registration of sbr during that time. That was also determined by the court that The ATF went out side it's power to determine that and only congress could make that change.

Both are thing of the past. And it can be argued and is That it was a a planed move by Trump to about
void it geting passed in congress( hard to get rid of) knowing it would not stand in the courts so was a 4 d chess move. I would love to believe this but it very hard when Trum has said things like take the guns first due process latter and I don't like the idea of them.when talking about suppressors.

Regardless fingers crossed he will do better this round and the garbage has been tossed out . It's time to celebrate.

Let me just say Predident Trump is a smart man.He amazes me every day.He is alot smarter then I am.


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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Bruce T] #8318140
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Originally Posted by Bruce T
Originally Posted by Providence Farm
He eo a ban on bump stocks With NRA support. It was eventually overturned by Trump Judges. It set the stage For the Biden white house to push th A T F to go after pistol braces and declare them sbrs. A lot of peo got in on the free registration of sbr during that time. That was also determined by the court that The ATF went out side it's power to determine that and only congress could make that change.

Both are thing of the past. And it can be argued and is That it was a a planed move by Trump to about
void it geting passed in congress( hard to get rid of) knowing it would not stand in the courts so was a 4 d chess move. I would love to believe this but it very hard when Trum has said things like take the guns first due process latter and I don't like the idea of them.when talking about suppressors.

Regardless fingers crossed he will do better this round and the garbage has been tossed out . It's time to celebrate.

Let me just say Predident Trump is a smart man.He amazes me every day.He is alot smarter then I am.


I like him but have a long memory and don't easily discard comments from the most powerful man in the world lightly. "Take the guns first due process later" Is very concerning and shows his state of mind.

Honestly that bothers me more than the bump.stock ban by a long shot. Neither was good but at least the bump stock ban can reason be argued it was strategic play. Hard to explain that statement away and shoots a hole in the strategic play argument for me at least.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8318147
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PF answer the ? this happened that happened but truth be told you lost nothing. Maybe Trump got lucky but you can't name one thing cause there isn't anything.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8318148
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So Trump didn't take away or ban any guns? Only commerce items?


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8318169
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Are you saying ammo, magazines, scopes etc are only commerce items?

When SCOTUS shot down the bump stock ban did they site the commerce clause?

I believe DJT has come to realize that it's shall not infringe


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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8318179
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Unless something has changed in the last few months, I can still get any firearm I want. SBR’s or even fully automatic. Granted it takes a stamp, but I can still own them.
Curious if anyone out there has ever been “raided” or even stopped and questioned about your weapons while traveling or hunting or even shooting?

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8318190
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Oh brother- as if the ATF was stocking to the constitution until Trump gave them the go ahead to do otherwise.

And that from the guy who accuses us of a lack of reading skillz or short memories. LMBO


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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Rat Masterson] #8318193
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
PF answer the ? this happened that happened but truth be told you lost nothing. Maybe Trump got lucky but you can't name one thing cause there isn't anything.


I lost nothing personally I never liked bump stocks so never had one. Full auto is not my thing either It's fun for a mag or two then just expensive wast of ammo.

He was willing to sell out? debatable. yet for the last time his other commen lay doubt to it was planed. Excuse it, blow it off if you want, it's our guy after all right. Just remember it was our guy in 86 and why you can't afford a happy switch or get a new gun equipped with one. Plenty of Republicans vote for gun control and we incrementaly loose more each time. Guns are my thing like really my thing and I don't take this stuff lightly. Compromise means we just lost some more we won't get back. To.mamy are good go along with it as history shows when it's Republicans doing the restrictions. The same people would throw a fit when dems push the same thing.

It sad so many are blind to this

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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Wanna Be] #8318198
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Unless something has changed in the last few months, I can still get any firearm I want. SBR’s or even fully automatic. Granted it takes a stamp, but I can still own them.
Curious if anyone out there has ever been “raided” or even stopped and questioned about your weapons while traveling or hunting or even shooting?


That only happens at the doctor’s office.


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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8318207
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Unless something has changed in the last few months, I can still get any firearm I want. SBR’s or even fully automatic. Granted it takes a stamp, but I can still own them.
Curious if anyone out there has ever been “raided” or even stopped and questioned about your weapons while traveling or hunting or even shooting?


That only happens at the doctor’s office.


Lol truth to that

And every single traffic stop with the typical do you know why I stopped you, where are you going and coming from, have you been drinking, any guns in the vehicle.

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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8318212
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Haha, when I’m stopped they don’t have to ask. They’re in plain sight.
I remember when that started with the Docs. I just ignored him and he moved on.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Providence Farm] #8318245
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
PF answer the ? this happened that happened but truth be told you lost nothing. Maybe Trump got lucky but you can't name one thing cause there isn't anything.


I lost nothing personally I never liked bump stocks so never had one. Full auto is not my thing either It's fun for a mag or two then just expensive wast of ammo.

He was willing to sell out? debatable. yet for the last time his other commen lay doubt to it was planed. Excuse it, blow it off if you want, it's our guy after all right. Just remember it was our guy in 86 and why you can't afford a happy switch or get a new gun equipped with one. Plenty of Republicans vote for gun control and we incrementaly loose more each time. Guns are my thing like really my thing and I don't take this stuff lightly. Compromise means we just lost some more we won't get back. To.mamy are good go along with it as history shows when it's Republicans doing the restrictions. The same people would throw a fit when dems push the same thing.

It sad so many are blind to this


If it wasn't for Republicans in your voting lifetime, you wouldn't have most of the guns you have. Take that to the bank!


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8318248
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Full auto and bump stocks are legal, YOUR reading comprehension sucks and like a politician you didn't answer the ?

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Rat Masterson] #8318266
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Full auto and bump stocks are legal, YOUR reading comprehension sucks and like a politician you didn't answer the ?

Son now your getin all emotion again. do you need something for cramps?

Bumps stocks were illegal and full auto is legal but limited to things made and registered before May 1986.
Want a legal auto sear, lightning link or m 16 it will cost you 16 to 30k last I looked But should cost no more than standard AR. That darn supply and demand thing.


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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Steven 49er] #8318275
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Are you saying ammo, magazines, scopes etc are only commerce items?

When SCOTUS shot down the bump stock ban did they site the commerce clause?

I believe DJT has come to realize that it's shall not infringe


Can you kill something with ammo, magazines or scopes only?

The right to scope ownership shall not be infringed?


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8318281
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OK hippy the if this then argument Gets you nowhere. It's speculation at best not provable. What is provable is that the most restrictive gun control laws we have all were passed by Republicans and supported by the NRA.

Please come up with something to prove me wrong. Facts and provable not emotional speculation. I will check back tonight while I'm at work.

It's easier to fool someone that get them to admit they have been fooled.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: bowhunter27295] #8318283
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Are you saying ammo, magazines, scopes etc are only commerce items?

When SCOTUS shot down the bump stock ban did they site the commerce clause?

I believe DJT has come to realize that it's shall not infringe


Can you kill something with ammo, magazines or scopes only?

The right to scope ownership shall not be infringed?



Arms are not limited to guns!

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Rat Masterson] #8318290
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
PF answer the ? this happened that happened but truth be told you lost nothing. Maybe Trump got lucky but you can't name one thing cause there isn't anything.



He just wants to argue. No matter what you say, he is going to argue with you. That is why I am not wasting my time.


I have nothing clever to put here.





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