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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Bruce T] #8318387
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Originally Posted by Bruce T
What Donald Trump's 'Concealed Carry Reciprocity' Means for Gun Rights
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Donald Trump promised to sign "concealed carry reciprocity" legislation if he won a second term in office.

The policy would allow gun owners with a concealed carry permit from one state to legally carry their weapons in other states.

Every state in the U.S. permits some form of concealed carry, but the regulations can vary widely.

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Some states do not require a permit to carry concealed weapons, while others demand permits, stipulating certain conditions. States such as California and New York have particularly strict requirements.

Trump spelled out his intention to change the law in a 2023 speech, stating: "I will protect the right of self-defense everywhere it is under siege. And I will sign concealed carry reciprocity. Your second amendment does not end at the state line."

Trump has long campaigned on a pro-gun platform and all three times he has run for president he has received an endorsement from the National Rifle Association (NRA) firearms rights lobby group.

Newsweek reached out to Trump's campaign for comment via email.


Former U.S. President Donald Trump speaks during the NRA ILA Leadership Forum at the National Rifle Association (NRA) Annual Meeting & Exhibits at the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center on May 18, 2024 in Dallas, Texas. He has promised to sign “concealed carry reciprocity” legislation if he won a second term in office. Justin Sullivan/Getty Images
Former U.S. President Donald Trump speaks during the NRA ILA Leadership Forum at the National Rifle Association (NRA) Annual Meeting & Exhibits at the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center on May 18, 2024 in Dallas, Texas. He has promised to sign “concealed carry reciprocity” legislation if he won a second term in office. Justin Sullivan/Getty Images
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The NRA and other pro-Second Amendment groups support loosening concealed carry laws nationwide.

The NRA's official policy goes even further than Trump has promised, advocating for what they call "constitutional carry," which would allow individuals who can legally possess guns to carry concealed firearms without needing a permit.

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This more lenient policy is also supported by other pro-gun groups, including the National Association for Gun Rights.

Democrats and groups that advocate for gun control have long opposed "concealed carry reciprocity."

In 2017, during Trump's first presidency, House Republicans passed the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act, before it stalled in the Senate.

The Democratic National Committee said at the time: "An NRA pet project, this legislation would force states with more stringent gun standards to comply with looser regulations in other states, risking our public safety and making it more difficult to enforce state laws that save lives."

Everytown for Gun Safety, a nonprofit group which advocates for gun control, has also criticized Trump's pledge to enact the concealed carry policy in his second term.

"Trump's vision for America: Guns everywhere, for anyone, with no questions asked," they wrote on Instagram in October.

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Mass shootings are on the rise in the U.S. There have been more than 455 of them across the country so far this year, according to the Gun Violence Archive. Since 2020, there have been over 600 mass shootings per year.

President Joe Biden enacted various policies to try to stem gun violence throughout his presidency. Trump has promised to undo them.

"In my second term, we will roll back every Biden attack on the Second Amendment—the attacks are fast and furious—starting the minute that Crooked Joe shuffles his way out of the White House," Trump told a meeting of NRA members in May.

Kamala Harris, by contrast, ran on a campaign of tightening gun control, including introducing universal background checks and an assault weapons ban.

Trump has signaled that he intends to loosen gun control laws through executive action and replacing Steven Dettelbach—branded by the President-elect as an "anti-gun fanatic"—as head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.





I hope he stick to it and it gets through both houses. They have all 3 branches and good court. But they had all 3 branches the first 2 years last time and went the wrong way. Only takes a few rinos and high pro shooting to get sold out.

Hopefully that won't hurt to many feelings but it probably will.

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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8318682
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I thought about readin all of this but it made me think of Procerbs 26:12


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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: bowhunter27295] #8318683
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Ok, so I understand (call me stupid), what part of a gun did President Trump ban that made guns inoperable?

I will go get my testosterone shot while you contemplate your masculine answer.


I You are no familiar with AR options apparently remove the stock and buffer tub they won't work. it's pretty simple.

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What's a buffer tub?

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: hippie] #8318692
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
OK hippy the if this then argument Gets you nowhere. It's speculation at best not provable. What is provable is that the most restrictive gun control laws we have all were passed by Republicans and supported by the NRA.

Please come up with something to prove me wrong. Facts and provable not emotional speculation. I will check back tonight while I'm at work.

It's easier to fool someone that get them to admit they have been fooled.



Here, just last year.
Just because you don't see all the "wins" republicans give you, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I gave you sound advise earlier....you should study up on this stuff.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...pons-ban-mass-shootings-rise-2023-12-06/


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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He actually blocked a red flag law.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-ended-rule-block-mentally-ill-guns/story?id=53113891

Had to do with veterans with PTSD and your grandparents that you may take care of their finances. How quickly we forget.

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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Providence Farm] #8318744
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What's a buffer tub?



Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Ok, so I understand (call me stupid), what part of a gun did President Trump ban that made guns inoperable?

I will go get my testosterone shot while you contemplate your masculine answer.


I You are no familiar with AR options .


Are you "no familiar" with AR options?


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8318748
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Let's not let facts get in the way of a good argument!

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hippie They don't get a prize for doing what they put there to so and doing that does not excuse them for doing the opposite when they do. Giving them a pass is why wre keep losing more. Hopefully The Republicans won't fight Trump This go around like last time and things get done at light speed. and in the right direction.


I sure thought the hearing protection act would pass the first two years controlling all 3 branches. I was disappointed. Not going to be so trusting this time. Hopefully but not going to be surprised when things go south. I will be happy to be wrong and surprised when they go right.

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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
I sure thought the hearing protection act would pass the first two years controlling all 3 branches. I was disappointed. Not going to be so trusting this time. Hopefully but not going to be surprised when things go south. I will be happy to be wrong and surprised when they go right.


what percentage of the American Electorate saw the Hearing Protection Act as a top priority?

2, maybe 3 percent???

you're delusional if you think otherwise.

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hippie I have had nfa items for nearly 2 decades. Have a suppressed braced pistol I put together for my youngest to deer hunt with when he was 6 and recoil sensitive in 300 black out. Due to our cal restrictions a brased pistol was legal for deer on public land for deer an sbr is not..

Bowhunter Trumps move embolden Biden and the ATF
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go back and read my post slowly.

Remove a bump stock and buffer tub and it won't function. you have to replace it. He threatened to lock people up for up to 10 years and give them a 250k fine if they did not get rid of their privet property.


I get it you like the restrictions and gun control losses of freedom as long as the BRA says it OK and republicans push it.





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Originally Posted by white marlin
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I sure thought the hearing protection act would pass the first two years controlling all 3 branches. I was disappointed. Not going to be so trusting this time. Hopefully but not going to be surprised when things go south. I will be happy to be wrong and surprised when they go right.


what percentage of the American Electorate saw the Hearing Protection Act as a top priority?

2, maybe 3 percent???

you're delusional if you think otherwise.



Did u ever make a claim to any such thing? Nope only said the pro gun only reason we have gun rights Republicans sure are not interested in protecting those rights historically.

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You're full of something.

I have posted news articles to two anti-gun laws Biden done, and you're still whining about something Trump did. I also posted one article where Trump eliminated Obama's red flag law.

No reason for me to even respond.


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Originally Posted by hippie
You're full of something.

I have posted news articles to two anti-gun laws Biden done, and you're still whining about something Trump did. I also posted one article where Trump eliminated Obama's red flag law.

No reason for me to even respond.



Again Do you expect democrats to be pro gun? I expect them to be anti. I also expect Republicans not to support any gun control. pretty simple . I see your ok with some Republican support of gun control as long as they push a little back. They have supported the biggest and worst gun control ever pased but hey look they pushed some small things back. All good right. This is exactly how we got where we are.

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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Did u ever make a claim to any such thing? Nope only said the pro gun only reason we have gun rights Republicans sure are not interested in protecting those rights historically.


ring a bell? "I sure thought the hearing protection act would pass the first two years controlling all 3 branches. I was disappointed. Not going to be so trusting this time."

sounds like you got your panties in a wad because your priorities aren't popular enough to merit spending political capital.

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Yea, you just send them money, lol.

I also showed you just one example of republicans saving your guns, but your to thick to see it.


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Did u ever make a claim to any such thing? Nope only said the pro gun only reason we have gun rights Republicans sure are not interested in protecting those rights historically.


ring a bell? "I sure thought the hearing protection act would pass the first two years controlling all 3 branches. I was disappointed. Not going to be so trusting this time."

sounds like you got your panties in a wad because your priorities aren't popular enough to merit spending political capital.




No I expect them to do what they were elected to do. Instead many of the Republicans fought trump along with the democrats on everything. But om.sure you want to over look that.

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Yea, you just send them money, lol.

I also showed you just one example of republicans saving your guns, but your to thick to see it.


How about that hues amendment in 86?

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