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Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: white marlin] #8318829
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I sure thought the hearing protection act would pass the first two years controlling all 3 branches. I was disappointed. Not going to be so trusting this time. Hopefully but not going to be surprised when things go south. I will be happy to be wrong and surprised when they go right.


what percentage of the American Electorate saw the Hearing Protection Act as a top priority?

2, maybe 3 percent???

you're delusional if you think otherwise.



Did u ever make a claim to any such thing? Nope only said the pro gun only reason we have gun rights Republicans sure are not interested in protecting those rights historically.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8318834
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You're full of something.

I have posted news articles to two anti-gun laws Biden done, and you're still whining about something Trump did. I also posted one article where Trump eliminated Obama's red flag law.

No reason for me to even respond.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Originally Posted by hippie
You're full of something.

I have posted news articles to two anti-gun laws Biden done, and you're still whining about something Trump did. I also posted one article where Trump eliminated Obama's red flag law.

No reason for me to even respond.



Again Do you expect democrats to be pro gun? I expect them to be anti. I also expect Republicans not to support any gun control. pretty simple . I see your ok with some Republican support of gun control as long as they push a little back. They have supported the biggest and worst gun control ever pased but hey look they pushed some small things back. All good right. This is exactly how we got where we are.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Providence Farm] #8318859
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Did u ever make a claim to any such thing? Nope only said the pro gun only reason we have gun rights Republicans sure are not interested in protecting those rights historically.


ring a bell? "I sure thought the hearing protection act would pass the first two years controlling all 3 branches. I was disappointed. Not going to be so trusting this time."

sounds like you got your panties in a wad because your priorities aren't popular enough to merit spending political capital.

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Yea, you just send them money, lol.

I also showed you just one example of republicans saving your guns, but your to thick to see it.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Originally Posted by white marlin
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Did u ever make a claim to any such thing? Nope only said the pro gun only reason we have gun rights Republicans sure are not interested in protecting those rights historically.


ring a bell? "I sure thought the hearing protection act would pass the first two years controlling all 3 branches. I was disappointed. Not going to be so trusting this time."

sounds like you got your panties in a wad because your priorities aren't popular enough to merit spending political capital.




No I expect them to do what they were elected to do. Instead many of the Republicans fought trump along with the democrats on everything. But om.sure you want to over look that.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: hippie] #8318864
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Originally Posted by hippie
Yea, you just send them money, lol.

I also showed you just one example of republicans saving your guns, but your to thick to see it.


How about that hues amendment in 86?

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Providence Farm] #8318873
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
[No I expect them to do what they were elected to do. Instead many of the Republicans fought trump along with the democrats on everything. But om.sure you want to over look that.


they WEREN'T elected to pass the Hearing Protection Act...that's the POINT! Only you and 4 guys from Texas gave a rat's behind about it.

no one ran on passing the Hearing Protection Act.

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Pretty hard to vote those responsible for that out now isn't it?

Now isn't there some work you should be doing?


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
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Yea, you just send them money, lol.

I also showed you just one example of republicans saving your guns, but your to thick to see it.


How about that hues amendment in 86?



Geez, that was almost 40 years ago. Not exactly a "Current Event".


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: white marlin] #8318888
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Originally Posted by white marlin
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[No I expect them to do what they were elected to do. Instead many of the Republicans fought trump along with the democrats on everything. But om.sure you want to over look that.


they WEREN'T elected to pass the Hearing Protection Act...that's the POINT! Only you and 4 guys from Texas gave a rat's behind about it.

no one ran on passing the Hearing Protection Act.

This ol' boy from Arkansas would have liked to seen that pass too. Unfortunately, the majority of Republicans in Congress are really democrats.

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Originally Posted by Providence Farm



hippie I have had nfa items for nearly 2 decades. Have a suppressed braced pistol I put together for my youngest to deer hunt with when he was 6 and recoil sensitive in 300 black out. Due to our cal restrictions a brased pistol was legal for deer on public land for deer an sbr is not..

Bowhunter Trumps move embolden Biden and the ATF
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go back and read my post slowly.

Remove a bump stock and buffer tub and it won't function. you have to replace it. He threatened to lock people up for up to 10 years and give them a 250k fine if they did not get rid of their privet property.


I get it you like the restrictions and gun control losses of freedom as long as the BRA says it OK and republicans push it.


Ok, so in this post you assume a bump stock is a factory item. I know of no manufacturer that has a bump stock as a stock item on their AR build. That makes a bump stock an option not a firearm. So anyone with an AR-15 and a brain would keep their factory stock therefore the firearm was not made illegal by President Trump. The bump stock was made Illegal. A commerce item that, again, is not a firearm. it has no pertinence to the 2A.

So in looking at your side of the debate, by your own admission, it appears President Trump never made any specific firearm illegal.

Not playing gotcha at all. Just going by your words in this debate. So, let's move on from this argument since facts have been established and stop acting like the media when they talk about "full autos" when we know they are semi autos. It is a fact that President Trump never banned any firearm.

Now the BATFE bureaucracy may have banned some items, but that is the fault of that director, not the President. And bump stocks are 100% legal now. No matter what path you think this was accomplished.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: J Staton] #8318896
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Originally Posted by J Staton
This ol' boy from Arkansas would have liked to seen that pass too. Unfortunately, the majority of Republicans in Congress are really democrats.


"liked to have seen" and top priority are two very different things.

*I* would have liked to have seen it pass, but it wasn't my highest priority.

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Originally Posted by white marlin
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This ol' boy from Arkansas would have liked to seen that pass too. Unfortunately, the majority of Republicans in Congress are really democrats.


"liked to have seen" and top priority are two very different things.

*I* would have liked to have seen it pass, but it wasn't my highest priority.

Nor mine. Repealing Obamacare during that cycle was my highest priority. However, seeing that most republican congressman are really democrats, that didn't get done either. We conservatives just need to do a much better
job during the primaries.

Re: Trump said he will protect the second Amendment [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8318905
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no argument from me there, J!

but remember, they have to win a general election, too.

and in a lot of places, a true conservative isn't likely to win.

do I LIKE that? heck no! but my feelings on the matter won't change reality.

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Originally Posted by white marlin
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This ol' boy from Arkansas would have liked to seen that pass too. Unfortunately, the majority of Republicans in Congress are really democrats.


"liked to have seen" and top priority are two very different things.

*I* would have liked to have seen it pass, but it wasn't my highest priority.



I agree, I would have LIKED to see it pass but completely understand there were higher priorities. The group that wants OTC Suppressors is REALLY small in the grand scheme of things.


I have nothing clever to put here.





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I agree, I would have LIKED to see it pass but completely understand there were higher priorities. The group that wants OTC Suppressors is REALLY small in the grand scheme of things.


no, no, NO!...if *I* want it, that means EVERYONE in the country wants it, and stupid republicans won't give everyone what I want!

[stomp, stomp, stomp!]

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I want and expect them to support the constitution as it was written and understood at the time it was written that They swear to uphold. That is #1. Im.sorry you don't have the same expectations

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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
I want and expect them to support the constitution as it was written and understood at the time it was written that They swear to uphold. That is #1. Im.sorry you don't have the same expectations





That is a pretty broad brush and there are only so many hours in the day.


I have nothing clever to put here.





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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
I want and expect them to support the constitution as it was written and understood at the time it was written that They swear to uphold. That is #1. Im.sorry you don't have the same expectations





That is a pretty broad brush and there are only so many hours in the day.



How about just don't try to undermine the greatest documents ever written? Does that simplify it any?

Fingers crossed It will be seen Trump has a mandate And Even the Rinos Will stay in line. The term sur has started off on the right foot today.

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