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Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: Rat Masterson] #8339194
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Well the Kaiser wanted to take over half the world and if successful I'm sure he would have stopped at that. No way to predict a Hitler or a war 20 years in the future. Be that as it may Hitler came to power and started WW 2, should we have stayed out.


Yes. We certainly shouldn't have allied with the soviets who did almost everything Hitler wanted to.

Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339195
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I fail to see any correlation. The Nazis had a modern army. A huge industrial complex. Came close to succeeding.

if you want to go to Israel rat no one is stopping you. if your too old send your kids or grandkids. kinda funny how war hawks wnat other people or their kids or grandkids to go. if its important to to you whats holding you back???????????


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339198
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Isreal is an ally , and the apple of God's eye .....supporting thier destruction of evil is a no brainer


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Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: Rat Masterson] #8339200
02/11/25 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Should we have stayed out of Europe when Hitler was running wild?

Germany formally declared war with the US a few days after pearl harbor, plus had the military means to wage full scale war on us if we just ignored them. We didn't have much choice.

We have the choice not to send our sons to die for Israel. Israel can fight it's own war, it's perfectly capable and is doing a good job.

Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339201
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Trump is meeting with the king of Jordan, during a press conference with the King sitting there, sounds like Gaza will be taken over.

Can't keep letting terrorists rule it.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: AntiGov] #8339202
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Isreal is an ally , and the apple of God's eye .....supporting thier destruction of evil is a no brainer



We can cheer them on from the sidelines without sending our money and our sons.

Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339204
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That's not an ally .....that's a looky loo


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Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: AntiGov] #8339207
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
That's not an ally .....that's a looky loo

For you and anyone else that wants to go fight for israel, here's a link to the official IDF website, where you can learn more about joining their Majal program, designed for foreign volunteers wishing to serve in the IDF and full combat and support roles.

You could also join the Sar-El program, where you get the chance to volunteer and live with Israelis and volunteers from all over the world on army bases in Israel. Volunteers will work alongside or under the direction of Israeli soldiers, and perform duties such as packing food rations or medical kits, cleaning tanks, painting helmets, radio repairs, gas mask refurbishment, changing spare parts, gardening, or cleaning.

There's also links to the organizations that are officially authorized to raise funds for the IDF, if you want to write them a check.

If you're too old to take up a rifle and fight with them (you don't even need to be in the military), and don't wanna go volunteer on a base, they'd be happy to have your money.

IDF volunteer programs


You don't have to wait for the US to get in the fight. You can start today and be a personal ally to Israel.

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Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: Rat Masterson] #8339673
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Should we have stayed out of Europe when Hitler was running wild?

We did stay out for several years until Europe was about to lose everything.

Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: Chancey] #8339685
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Originally Posted by Chancey

Agree Steven.

I am a praying man. I know what Jesus says about harming little children. Horrendous things have happened over there in that conflict; particularly to innocent Palestinian children.
IMO, so called Christians had better square themselves with this.


Exactly what did Christians do that they need to square up with?

I heard of no churches calling for the destruction of all palestinians. I do hear of palestinians calling for the death and destruction of all Christians and Jews. They teach elementary kids to hate Jews. Have you ever seen their school books? They literally have coloring books for killing Jews.

Does Israel randomly lob missiles continuously into palestinian occupied Gaza?

What did yassir arafat do with all the BILLIONS that were given to the palestinians via his PLO?

Did Israel build tunnels to be able to go under the roads and access palestinian occupied gaza?

Did palestinians send pamphlets over to Israel to tell them to vacate an area they were getting ready to attack?

Did Israel attack and brutally murder, rape, disfigure any palestinians?

Did Israel kill babies because they were muslim?

Bill Clinton wanted to give arafat 98% of what he wanted in a peace deal. Arafat turned it down because it would turn off the "Aid" spigot.

Palestinians hands are not blood free. They are the problem. That land FIRST belonged to the Israeli people. It did not ever belong to palestinians.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339695
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Here, don't believe me?



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Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339698
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Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339701
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Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339702
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Troll.


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Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339704
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Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: FisherDrive] #8339705
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Originally Posted by FisherDrive
If there is a god he is an under achiever.

grin Exactly.

Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339706
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Peace loving religion of islam.


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Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339714
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The world would be such a nicer place without any religion.

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Originally Posted by FisherDrive
If there is a god he is an under achiever.


He got you and your fairy wagon out of the snow before you froze to death. Be thankful for that

Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339727
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I was raised a zionist as well. Thank God, I am not one anymore cause I would be on the same bandwagon of screaming "let Israel kill them all cause they are evil people!"

The problem I see with that point of view is that it is beyond biased. We only get one side of the story unless one diligently searches. Even then, we are so brainwashed on a certain narrative that we have been taught since WWII that we still can't even believe the counter argument; even if true. Anything that subverts the dominant paradigm in regards to Israel is forbidden.

The people that run modern day Israel and our Government are not innocent. IMO, the leadership (whoever is running them) are some of the most wicked of human kind, and I also believe 100% Anti-Christian and leading this country into a Trojan Horse situation.

I stand by my statement that Christians had better square themselves with what Israel just did to the Palestinians, and also Lebanon and Syria.

Many early Christians that converted from paganism were Palestinians. Many Christians lived in Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria. Also the land first did not belong to the Israelite people. It first belonged to Canaanites; an evil bunch in deed.

According to the Bible, the Hebrews had their shot at it and failed to listen and trust and obey God. They dropped the ball several times and God allowed them to lose the land. On top of that practicing Jews today still reject Jesus as their Messiah and still sacrifice animals and no telling what else to cover their sins. Radical Islam is bad, but Talmudic Judaism is a whole other level.


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