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Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339739
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Muslims, Christians and Jews all praying to the same God while killing each other in God's name....ironic.

Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: Chancey] #8339743
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Originally Posted by Chancey
I was raised a zionist as well. Thank God, I am not one anymore cause I would be on the same bandwagon of screaming "let Israel kill them all cause they are evil people!"

The problem I see with that point of view is that it is beyond biased. We only get one side of the story unless one diligently searches. Even then, we are so brainwashed on a certain narrative that we have been taught since WWII that we still can't even believe the counter argument; even if true. Anything that subverts the dominant paradigm in regards to Israel is forbidden.

The people that run modern day Israel and our Government are not innocent. IMO, the leadership (whoever is running them) are some of the most wicked of human kind, and I also believe 100% Anti-Christian and leading this country into a Trojan Horse situation.

I stand by my statement that Christians had better square themselves with what Israel just did to the Palestinians, and also Lebanon and Syria.

Many early Christians that converted from paganism were Palestinians. Many Christians lived in Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria. Also the land first did not belong to the Israelite people. It first belonged to Canaanites; an evil bunch in deed.

According to the Bible, the Hebrews had their shot at it and failed to listen and trust and obey God. They dropped the ball several times and God allowed them to lose the land. On top of that practicing Jews today still reject Jesus as their Messiah and still sacrifice animals and no telling what else to cover their sins. Radical Islam is bad, but Talmudic Judaism is a whole other level.


At some point, if you refuse to turn on Hamas or flee, you have to accept the consequences. Same thing that happens in every war that has been fought. Dont want to be collateral damage, dont allow them to build tunnels, store arms, hold prisoners in your homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas and similar groups have no religious qualms about endangering the innocent. They dont believe in coexistence. Its submit or die. If they want to claim to be victims of war crimes, they need to uniform up and fight on the field instead of guerilla warfare and hiding behind non-combatants.

Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339744
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We won the Revolutionary war by using guerilla warfare.

Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339745
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Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: FisherDrive] #8339746
02/12/25 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by FisherDrive
We won the Revolutionary war by using guerilla warfare.

True to a point but they knew they signed their own death warrants by taking up arms against the British. They werent trying to use their families for living shields to prevent the red coats from attacking. The British intentionally murdered them. Dont think anyone in Gaza would be willing to be lawyers for an Israeli soldiers like John Adams did for the Brits after the Boston Massacre.

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Originally Posted by FisherDrive
Muslims, Christians and Jews all praying to the same God while killing each other in God's name....ironic.

Fisherdrive, I'm speaking as a Christian. But I agree with
With what you are saying. The irony, truth be told all three of the Abrahamic religions claim to be religions of peace. The problem is man wants to make God in his own image. The true peaple of God are the peace makers.
This is true Israel the chosen of god. Vengeance is mine says the lord. Peaple will believe what they will. But God's will is for all men to come to repentance, and turn from there evil ways. Oh what a patient God we have.


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Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339812
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If anyone wants to know how the Palistinians have been treated by the Israelis for years, you can google Breaking The Silence and watch video after video of IDF soldiers giving their first hand accounts. Their guilty concienses make then speak up about their horrendous treatment of Palistinian civilians.

Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339816
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The number one thing to remember is YOU can go fight in Gaza. Its not illegal. If your a vet I bet you wont even need to buy your own ticket. So instead of telling others to go or send their kids or their grandkids, just go fight the good fight. Israeli women are welcome in combat roles. So no excuses if your female. If you think we need to be fighting there then go.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339829
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If you're talking to me, I honestly don't care what happens over there, not my circus. Just saying there are two sides to every story, one the US media feeds you and one straight from the mouths of hundreds of IDF soldiers.

Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339833
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A Christian nation funding the Jews to commit genocide on Palastine......isn't religion wonderful?

Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: FisherDrive] #8339866
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Originally Posted by FisherDrive
A Christian nation funding the Jews to commit genocide on Palastine......isn't religion wonderful?

You dont know what a genocide is.

If its a genocide, its the most incompetent genocide ever.

Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8339881
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You'd think the Jews would know its not nice to murder and forcibly kick people out of their homes.

Not our problem.

Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: Blaine County] #8339892
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
You'd think the Jews would know its not nice to murder and forcibly kick people out of their homes.

Not our problem.

Yeah their neighbor doesnt seem to have that problem. Im not sure how many people realize this but Israel is a much more diverse country than what people seem to think. Its hardly a religious country either. The PM of Israel in that brief time Netanyahu wasnt the PM was the first observant Jew in the recent time.

Oh just for those that dont know, this is the top of the Hamas Charter who runs and was voted(ostensibly) by the palestinians...

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Hamas Covenant 1988
The Covenant
of the
Islamic Resistance Movement
18 August 1988

In The Name Of The Most Merciful Allah

"Ye are the best nation that hath been raised up unto mankind: ye command that which is just, and ye forbid that which is unjust, and ye believe in Allah. And if they who have received the scriptures had believed, it had surely been the better for them: there are believers among them, but the greater part of them are transgressors. They shall not hurt you, unless with a slight hurt; and if they fight against you, they shall turn their backs to you, and they shall not be helped. They are smitten with vileness wheresoever they are found; unless they obtain security by entering into a treaty with Allah, and a treaty with men; and they draw on themselves indignation from Allah, and they are afflicted with poverty. This they suffer, because they disbelieved the signs of Allah, and slew the prophets unjustly; this, because they were rebellious, and transgressed." (Al-Imran - verses 109-111).

Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

"The Islamic world is on fire. Each of us should pour some water, no matter how little, to extinguish whatever one can without waiting for the others." (Sheikh Amjad al-Zahawi, of blessed memory).


The full charter here: https://avalon.law.yale.edu/21st_century/hamas.asp

Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8340662
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Originally Posted by FisherDrive
A Christian nation funding the Jews to commit genocide on Palastine......isn't religion wonderful?

You dont know what a genocide is.

If its a genocide, its the most incompetent genocide ever.


My personal thought on it is that Israel did not initially go in to commit genocide, but the aftermath and consequences of their actions did. Much like east Europe in WWII; the allies destruction of the infrastructure caused mass starvation and death. Israel went in with foot soldiers with a high degree of enthusiasm driven by their rage after what they believe happened on Oct 7. Most Israelis are just as brainwashed and propaganda influenced as us Americans. Israel, like us are no longer conditioned for a real war. There are countless accounts of IDF soldiers getting burned out fighting in Gaza and I think the leadership just got frustrated because they were not winning and they decided to level the entire place.

Now since the place is leveled and no running water, sewage systems, transport roads, hospitals, schools, electricity, etc; what does the world do with the 1.8 million people that live there? Let them starve to death?
The whole world watched while Israel single handed with our help leveled that place. I doubt they will get any support from Arab countries to take them in. Israel owns it; let them rebuild it with their money and they can deal with the 1.8 million refugees. Blaine County is right on this; Its not our problem.


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Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: Blaine County] #8340670
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
You'd think the Jews would know its not nice to murder and forcibly kick people out of their homes.

Not our problem.



I don't think they went far enough after geting attacked like that. They should have just wiped them all out men women and children. It would get ild having rockes fired at you and random attacks . So hit them so hard they never dare think about doing so again. But that's just me.

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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Blaine County
You'd think the Jews would know its not nice to murder and forcibly kick people out of their homes.

Not our problem.



I don't think they went far enough after geting attacked like that. They should have just wiped them all out men women and children. It would get ild having rockes fired at you and random attacks . So hit them so hard they never dare think about doing so again. But that's just me.


The Israelis should exterminate the Palestinians. The Palestinians could not exterminate the Jews, but they will torture and kill the ones they can, no matter if they are innocent or not, unless exterminated. Some people you just can't reach. So you get what we have in the Middle East. Which is what the Palestinians want. So they get it.

Keith

Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: Blaine County] #8340809
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Originally Posted by Blaine County


Not. Our. Problem.


The U.S. created Israel and the problem.


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Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8340813
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We had a lot of help from Great Briton.


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Re: cease fire falls apart [Re: danny clifton] #8340832
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Does anyone get a romantic sensation as you try to sort thru the garble of "Remember the Alamo". I would think it would be easier to fall in love with the idea reading about it later.

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