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Re: cease fire falls apart
[Re: Rat Masterson]
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02/11/25 02:29 PM
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Well the Kaiser wanted to take over half the world and if successful I'm sure he would have stopped at that. No way to predict a Hitler or a war 20 years in the future. Be that as it may Hitler came to power and started WW 2, should we have stayed out. Yes. We certainly shouldn't have allied with the soviets who did almost everything Hitler wanted to.
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Re: cease fire falls apart
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/11/25 02:31 PM
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I fail to see any correlation. The Nazis had a modern army. A huge industrial complex. Came close to succeeding.
if you want to go to Israel rat no one is stopping you. if your too old send your kids or grandkids. kinda funny how war hawks wnat other people or their kids or grandkids to go. if its important to to you whats holding you back???????????
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: cease fire falls apart
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/11/25 02:35 PM
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Isreal is an ally , and the apple of God's eye .....supporting thier destruction of evil is a no brainer
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Re: cease fire falls apart
[Re: Rat Masterson]
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02/11/25 02:38 PM
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Should we have stayed out of Europe when Hitler was running wild? Germany formally declared war with the US a few days after pearl harbor, plus had the military means to wage full scale war on us if we just ignored them. We didn't have much choice. We have the choice not to send our sons to die for Israel. Israel can fight it's own war, it's perfectly capable and is doing a good job.
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Re: cease fire falls apart
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/11/25 02:39 PM
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Trump is meeting with the king of Jordan, during a press conference with the King sitting there, sounds like Gaza will be taken over.
Can't keep letting terrorists rule it.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: cease fire falls apart
[Re: AntiGov]
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02/11/25 02:39 PM
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Isreal is an ally , and the apple of God's eye .....supporting thier destruction of evil is a no brainer
We can cheer them on from the sidelines without sending our money and our sons.
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Re: cease fire falls apart
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/11/25 02:41 PM
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That's not an ally .....that's a looky loo
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Re: cease fire falls apart
[Re: AntiGov]
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02/11/25 02:49 PM
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That's not an ally .....that's a looky loo For you and anyone else that wants to go fight for israel, here's a link to the official IDF website, where you can learn more about joining their Majal program, designed for foreign volunteers wishing to serve in the IDF and full combat and support roles. You could also join the Sar-El program, where you get the chance to volunteer and live with Israelis and volunteers from all over the world on army bases in Israel. Volunteers will work alongside or under the direction of Israeli soldiers, and perform duties such as packing food rations or medical kits, cleaning tanks, painting helmets, radio repairs, gas mask refurbishment, changing spare parts, gardening, or cleaning. There's also links to the organizations that are officially authorized to raise funds for the IDF, if you want to write them a check. If you're too old to take up a rifle and fight with them (you don't even need to be in the military), and don't wanna go volunteer on a base, they'd be happy to have your money. IDF volunteer programsYou don't have to wait for the US to get in the fight. You can start today and be a personal ally to Israel.
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Re: cease fire falls apart
[Re: Rat Masterson]
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02/11/25 10:32 PM
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Should we have stayed out of Europe when Hitler was running wild? We did stay out for several years until Europe was about to lose everything.
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Re: cease fire falls apart
[Re: FisherDrive]
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02/11/25 11:50 PM
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If there is a god he is an under achiever. He got you and your fairy wagon out of the snow before you froze to death. Be thankful for that
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Re: cease fire falls apart
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/11/25 11:51 PM
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I was raised a zionist as well. Thank God, I am not one anymore cause I would be on the same bandwagon of screaming "let Israel kill them all cause they are evil people!"
The problem I see with that point of view is that it is beyond biased. We only get one side of the story unless one diligently searches. Even then, we are so brainwashed on a certain narrative that we have been taught since WWII that we still can't even believe the counter argument; even if true. Anything that subverts the dominant paradigm in regards to Israel is forbidden.
The people that run modern day Israel and our Government are not innocent. IMO, the leadership (whoever is running them) are some of the most wicked of human kind, and I also believe 100% Anti-Christian and leading this country into a Trojan Horse situation.
I stand by my statement that Christians had better square themselves with what Israel just did to the Palestinians, and also Lebanon and Syria.
Many early Christians that converted from paganism were Palestinians. Many Christians lived in Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria. Also the land first did not belong to the Israelite people. It first belonged to Canaanites; an evil bunch in deed.
According to the Bible, the Hebrews had their shot at it and failed to listen and trust and obey God. They dropped the ball several times and God allowed them to lose the land. On top of that practicing Jews today still reject Jesus as their Messiah and still sacrifice animals and no telling what else to cover their sins. Radical Islam is bad, but Talmudic Judaism is a whole other level.
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Re: cease fire falls apart
[Re: Chancey]
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02/12/25 12:21 AM
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I was raised a zionist as well. Thank God, I am not one anymore cause I would be on the same bandwagon of screaming "let Israel kill them all cause they are evil people!"
The problem I see with that point of view is that it is beyond biased. We only get one side of the story unless one diligently searches. Even then, we are so brainwashed on a certain narrative that we have been taught since WWII that we still can't even believe the counter argument; even if true. Anything that subverts the dominant paradigm in regards to Israel is forbidden.
The people that run modern day Israel and our Government are not innocent. IMO, the leadership (whoever is running them) are some of the most wicked of human kind, and I also believe 100% Anti-Christian and leading this country into a Trojan Horse situation.
I stand by my statement that Christians had better square themselves with what Israel just did to the Palestinians, and also Lebanon and Syria.
Many early Christians that converted from paganism were Palestinians. Many Christians lived in Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria. Also the land first did not belong to the Israelite people. It first belonged to Canaanites; an evil bunch in deed.
According to the Bible, the Hebrews had their shot at it and failed to listen and trust and obey God. They dropped the ball several times and God allowed them to lose the land. On top of that practicing Jews today still reject Jesus as their Messiah and still sacrifice animals and no telling what else to cover their sins. Radical Islam is bad, but Talmudic Judaism is a whole other level.
At some point, if you refuse to turn on Hamas or flee, you have to accept the consequences. Same thing that happens in every war that has been fought. Dont want to be collateral damage, dont allow them to build tunnels, store arms, hold prisoners in your homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas and similar groups have no religious qualms about endangering the innocent. They dont believe in coexistence. Its submit or die. If they want to claim to be victims of war crimes, they need to uniform up and fight on the field instead of guerilla warfare and hiding behind non-combatants.
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Re: cease fire falls apart
[Re: FisherDrive]
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02/12/25 12:36 AM
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We won the Revolutionary war by using guerilla warfare. True to a point but they knew they signed their own death warrants by taking up arms against the British. They werent trying to use their families for living shields to prevent the red coats from attacking. The British intentionally murdered them. Dont think anyone in Gaza would be willing to be lawyers for an Israeli soldiers like John Adams did for the Brits after the Boston Massacre.
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Exactly.
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