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Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: MJM] #8346049
02/18/25 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MJM

According to Elon, there are far more eligible social security numbers than there are citizens in the United States.


It's a good thing we won't run out of numbers!


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: danny clifton] #8346060
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15.7 million not including anyone under 110 years old. What is the average SS check? We may not run out of numbers, but we are running out of money for SSI.


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Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: danny clifton] #8346067
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You get em Elon, man knows how to look at the bottom line.

Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: danny clifton] #8346088
02/18/25 07:23 PM
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Elon Musk and DOGE have discovered that there are 394 million Social Security recipients in the U.S.
Despite the country having only 334 million citizens, a discrepancy of more than 60 million.
60 million time the average check ever month.


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Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: danny clifton] #8346091
02/18/25 07:28 PM
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If true its more than that. Of 394m how many are getting SS?


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Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: danny clifton] #8346092
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Good way to avoid prosecution? Nope he is still liable for all the missing funds.

Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: danny clifton] #8346093
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I see what you are saying. The Government is so incompetent that they couldn't figure out Social Security recipients outnumber the population of the U.S. It is amazing what people will believe. crazy

Now the government is incompetent and always will be, but.........


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Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: danny clifton] #8346303
02/19/25 12:18 AM
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I wonder what makes you think they were trying to figure it out, until now.


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Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: danny clifton] #8346309
02/19/25 12:41 AM
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According to this article Warner was talking about it in 2015 before Trump was in the first time. One would think they could have fixed the hole in Soc Sec and got enough money to build the wall?


https://www.politifact.com/factchec...-millions-social-security-numbers-still/

Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: danny clifton] #8346487
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The article says 6.5 million in 2015. Did you notice the number has grown? It looks like the hole has grown. I can't say I feel most of it was an accident. How long has it gone on?


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Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: danny clifton] #8346521
02/19/25 11:40 AM
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Go Elon Go!


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Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: MJM] #8346569
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Originally Posted by MJM
The article says 6.5 million in 2015. Did you notice the number has grown? It looks like the hole has grown. I can't say I feel most of it was an accident. How long has it gone on?


Well if its grown as much as they say (and if there is no explanation for it and its really true) then I guess the Barney Fife speech "Nip it in the Bud'' is too late !

One particular case I remember was several years ago a man and woman and there son were stealing copper wire from the entrances to farms most of which were places without
anyone living there. It was over a 3 or 4 county area and one of my places was one of them. That's probably the reason I remember the account. Anyway the boy got into a hot wire and got fried. The old man and woman put him in a deep freeze for a few months to conceal the matter or they would be caught for stealing. To make it even more complicated they were still getting his disability soc sec.
I've heard of another instance where a spouse was in dire straights and tried to conceal a death to get the soc sec.

Surely that kind of thing don't go unnoticed that much with all the electronic data with death certificates etc. Its not like the government has to sit a read all the obits to find out who has died.

Obviously time will tell what all the hoopla is about and the facts will finally surface after the whistle was blown a decade ago. Wouldn't it be something if all those cat eating illegals had those social numbers, lol.

Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: hippie] #8346576
02/19/25 12:56 PM
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So we get rid of crooket politicians replace the with crooket Business men. Interesting that Musk a guy that is supposed to be super smart. Got all these computer wizards working for him. Why would anyone not think they couldn't make the numbers their supposed to be reveling. Just exactly what they want them to be much like the ones there now are supposedly doing?
Im the last person would be able to mess with numbers. I totally suck at math always have. I have worked though for some people who thought they were good at numbers. Make it look like they wanted. Cooking the books, stacking the deck, robbing Peter to pay Paul. Even being I suck at numbers I could see them doing that.
Maybe once they get rid of all the fraud. They can change were it showed I was making .50 an hour when I started paying in at 16. Bump that up to a whole $1 see if I get a raise in my monthly SS payment. I bet the kids in there doing their computer work. They look at that .50 go Wow! Look at this poor man what a sucker. LTAO..
I Don't care that much anymore which group of low lifes are in charge. Just keep sending me my money you little blood suckers.


Mac


If you can't get behind cleaning up gov't no matter who does it, you should see a doctor fast! I'm dead serious!


What exactly is it that I would need a doctor for??

Largest number of voters in history elected Trump. Country has always been a majority rule. Trump was mandated by the people to down size government.
Fine..
I don't need to like how he is doing it and I think he is just another crook. Unless that is part of voter mandate that unless I like Trump. I'm not allowed an opinion??
Ask my high school principle how that worked for him..

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Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: danny clifton] #8346617
02/19/25 01:33 PM
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I hope your wrong Mac. We wont know for awhile yet. If they are fabricating the story it will come out.


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Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: MJM] #8346618
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Originally Posted by MJM
The article says 6.5 million in 2015. Did you notice the number has grown? It looks like the hole has grown. I can't say I feel most of it was an accident. How long has it gone on?

That kind of incompetence would make anyone quit. Did the right thing.


Immigrants who bypassed legal process in migrating to the US demand legal process before being kicked out.
Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: Trapper7] #8346664
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Originally Posted by MJM
The article says 6.5 million in 2015. Did you notice the number has grown? It looks like the hole has grown. I can't say I feel most of it was an accident. How long has it gone on?

That kind of incompetence would make anyone quit. Did the right thing.


It wasn't incompetence that caused the quit, it was exposure of the incompetence.

Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: danny clifton] #8346670
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You don't have to like it, and I don't have to care if you do. We had one guy willing to do it, the hag he was running againsts would have done nothing. Guys sure won't stop hating but at some point you better believe it will be changed

Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: walleye101] #8346673
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Originally Posted by walleye101
It wasn't incompetence that caused the quit, it was exposure of the incompetence.

I think it had little to do with incompetence. I would guess some were getting 100's of SS payments each or maybe 1000's 10,000'smn or more. Just because you could not get buy with it doesn't mean someone can't.
Since we are too late to nip it in the bud, should we just let it continue?


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Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: elkaholic] #8346786
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Originally Posted by elkaholic
I wonder how many of those are the actual person collecting their own SSI.

Say you're 60. You marry a 20 yr old.

You start taking your SSI at 65.

You die at 66.

You're wife/husband is entitled to collect your bennies until they die if theirs is more than yours.

Now your wife/husband lives to the ripe old age of 95.

That means it might show up as your bennies being paid out at 130+ yrs old.

That's why young Hispanic women are on the hunt for old Gringo's here in Colorado. I have a neighbor that married a Nicaraguan women 28 years younger than himself and decided to have kids at 63. When he turned 65 his two kids got over $800 a month each in Social security money until they're 18, he's worth 5-6 million and gets a bit over $4K a month from Social Security, she'll get that when he tips over. Things need to be looked at more closely!

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Re: Director of Social security quits [Re: danny clifton] #8346787
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I hope your wrong Mac. We wont know for awhile yet. If they are fabricating the story it will come out.


Danny I have no idea if I'm right or wrong. Like you say have to wait and see.
I just don't buy the idea that there is all this lowing hang fruit. Trump and Musk are only ones can find it or fix it.. MAGA..
I dont have a Trump decoder ring like some people apparently do. I don't know everytime Trump opens his mouth what he is saying is true. I can watch him yammer threw one of his speeches form an opinion. I don't need a bunch of talking heads then telling me what he said. Just like I don't need to watch a football game. Then guys sitting behind a desk telling me what I just watched after every play. Like I didn't just see it myself.
As for the SS lady resigning being a sign of guilt or incompetence. She's going under the bus when Musk walked in the door no matter what anyone says. Why would anyone want to put up with that crap.
Like I said earlier. Switch from politicians that are crooks. To busines men that are crooks. Us pee-on are just the mats they use to give their selves traction.
Your either booing or cheering the winner. But in the end all probably going to be runover.


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