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10% comes across from WhiteDog generator in NW Ontario going into those lines crossing the Se corner of ManitobaNo Ontario transmission crossing in SE Mb. We even feed North West Angle with our own distribution. Kenora gets their juice from 7 Sisters after feeding a couple taps for Brerton Lake & Star Lake stations. That station you’re talking about must feed from the east side of LOTW? 
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[Re: nimzy]
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There may be a few diehard Trumpers that think prices will go down soon, but most of us know that's not true.
 The question I have is, will it be worth it in the long run?
 
 At this point I dunno, seems rather unlikely, but I can't say for sure.....
 
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Tariffs worked in the past for funding .gov, income tax not needed. Why will they not work today? Is it because the U.S. dollar is now the gold standard or is because .gov has become to big and Americans are unwilling to endure the challenges of downsizing .gov? In my opinion tariffs replacing income taxes to fund government is a lot of hyperbole. Remember the promise that on day one we'd pay no more tax on tips and overtime ...  hasn't happened yet. |  |  |  
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Tariffs worked in the past for funding .gov, income tax not needed. Why will they not work today? Is it because the U.S. dollar is now the gold standard or is because .gov has become to big and Americans are unwilling to endure the challenges of downsizing .gov? In my opinion tariffs replacing income taxes to fund government is a lot of hyperbole. Remember the promise that on day one we'd pay no more tax on tips and overtime ...  hasn't happened yet. Hyperbole or not, before the progressive President Wilson, income taxes were not a thing. If it worked before why want it work now? |  |  |  
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Tariffs worked in the past for funding .gov, income tax not needed. Why will they not work today? Is it because the U.S. dollar is now the gold standard or is because .gov has become to big and Americans are unwilling to endure the challenges of downsizing .gov? In my opinion tariffs replacing income taxes to fund government is a lot of hyperbole. Remember the promise that on day one we'd pay no more tax on tips and overtime ...  hasn't happened yet.  Yes it may not happen at all but did you honestly believe I would before the first year or two?  First tax code are mad the year before for the following year .and 2nd government is slow.     Just going by your post it seem like you expect it to be instant and  done in the first 3 months in office or it's some kind of got ya.   If so get real.   Edit.  Personally I would love to see no property tax and no taxes on social security or military pay and tips  before no taxes on overtime  and that should say something  considering I have never been in the military, am not on social security, and don't work for tips.and have always worked a lot of overtime.   Only one of those I would benefit from immediately would be no property taxes.   But my preference are not because they would directly benefit me  but they are ridiculous taxes and would benefit  those individuals greatly.      And in order to pay for the government with tarrifs #1 the government would have to shrink greatly and actually pass and run on a budget.   Not likely to happen enough for that to many love their pork and will fight it all the way.  But I can only hope. 
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[Re: nimzy]
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Tariff is just another word for tax. So any steel buyers in the US that are bringing in steel from Canada are paying Uncle Sam 25% or whatever it is. Just source your goods from within and it’ll be all good! 
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He want's fair trade. We tariff you what you tariff us. So yes I think the goal is everyone trading with us with no tariffs either way. That's what I heard too. Seems fair to me. 
 If removing guns saves just one life it's worth it. Then if deporting illegals saves one life is that worth it?
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 Such a simple concept to get countries to lower their tariffs, yet so difficult for people to understand.
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Tariffs worked in the past for funding .gov, income tax not needed. Why will they not work today? Is it because the U.S. dollar is now the gold standard or is because .gov has become to big and Americans are unwilling to endure the challenges of downsizing .gov? How high would they have to be? This is not a sales tax. It is a tax on only imported stuff. 24 percent of U.S. GDP is Federal spending. Before income taxes ( income tax and payroll taxes) it was like 3 percent of GDP. 70 percent of Federal spending is wealth transfer ( Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid ) Before income taxes that would have been around 0 percent of Federal Spending. Current income taxes don't even cover all the spending.  Seriously downsizing spending would mean the people  ( mostly old people ) who benefit from  the above three programs would have to accept a cut to these benefits. Good Luck!
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[Re: Pafoxman]
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 Such a simple concept to get countries to lower their tariffs, yet so difficult for people to understand.
How's that working out so far......???Pull your big boy pants (or skirt) on, time to MAGA and be done with the liberal lunacy. 
 There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Tariffs worked in the past for funding .gov, income tax not needed. Why will they not work today? Is it because the U.S. dollar is now the gold standard or is because .gov has become to big and Americans are unwilling to endure the challenges of downsizing .gov? In my opinion tariffs replacing income taxes to fund government is a lot of hyperbole. Remember the promise that on day one we'd pay no more tax on tips and overtime ...  hasn't happened yet. 90 days, what have you accomplished in the last 90 days? I thought so. 
 Just the right amount of whelm.
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If anyone is against a smaller Fed Govt and lower taxes after seeing the waste and bald faced fraud, first hand, your a communist, plain and simple. 
 Just the right amount of whelm.
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[Re: Dirt]
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Tariffs worked in the past for funding .gov, income tax not needed. Why will they not work today? Is it because the U.S. dollar is now the gold standard or is because .gov has become to big and Americans are unwilling to endure the challenges of downsizing .gov? How high would they have to be? This is not a sales tax. It is a tax on only imported stuff. 24 percent of U.S. GDP is Federal spending. Before income taxes ( income tax and payroll taxes) it was like 3 percent of GDP. 70 percent of Federal spending is wealth transfer ( Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid ) Before income taxes that would have been around 0 percent of Federal Spending. Current income taxes don't even cover all the spending.  Seriously downsizing spending would mean the people  ( mostly old people ) who benefit from  the above three programs would have to accept a cut to these benefits. Good Luck!Yea I could see that would be a problem. |  |  |  
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If anyone is against a smaller Fed Govt and lower taxes after seeing the waste and bald faced fraud, first hand, your a communist, plain and simple.X2 Just the waste and fraud already exposed is enough to make a person sick, let alone what we'll never find out about.  This was long overdue and there's no plausible reason for someone to NOT want it exposed! 
 There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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[Re: nimzy]
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As a side note over half of Medicaid spending. The amount spent in dollars goes to seniors. Mostly funding nursing homes. 
 P.S. I believe the payroll tax is based on earned income. ie an income tax?
 
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