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TSS Turkey Shot in Savage (Stevens Model 94) .410 #8367214
03/18/25 10:48 AM
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I have an old single shot break action Savage (Stevens Model 94) .410. Does anyone have any experience shooting the pricy TSS loads through them? I have two new turkey hunters coming up (daughters ages 10 and 12), and this old .410 would work great for the girls if it will kill birds.

Midway has the Federal TSS loads on sale:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1019777465?pid=847177

I see Winchester is not on sale, but cheaper:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1028014759?pid=278938

Fiocchi is even cheaper:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1026784440?pid=198031

I appreciate any feedback. Thanks,
Robert


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Re: TSS Turkey Shot in Savage (Stevens Model 94) .410 [Re: Robert Martin] #8367217
03/18/25 10:51 AM
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Never used it but there's a big following of 410's and tungsten shot users for turkeys, A pattern check is warranted though.

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Re: TSS Turkey Shot in Savage (Stevens Model 94) .410 [Re: gcs] #8367218
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Originally Posted by gcs
Never used it but there's a big following of 410's and tungsten shot users for turkeys, A pattern check is warranted though.

Thanks, I know there is a following, but I don't know if my "old" model 94 would shoot the loads similar to what these new .410 shotgun barrels. It would be nice to hear one way, or another, before dropping the cash for the TSS. I assume there is no choke options for my old .410.


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Re: TSS Turkey Shot in Savage (Stevens Model 94) .410 [Re: Robert Martin] #8367222
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Your gun is probably full choked, if that blows your patterns you can open it up slightly yourself, the tungsten hits just as hard in any gun,/barrel, you just need to see how it patterns, unfortunately there's only one way to do that...good luck.

Re: TSS Turkey Shot in Savage (Stevens Model 94) .410 [Re: Robert Martin] #8367232
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On midway, Remington and Federal are $8.04 per round, Winchester is $7.00 per round, Fiocchi is $6.35 per round.

I'm not a cheapskate, but other than name, they appear to be indetiacal loads... I feel like I should get a few boxes of Fiocchi. Any thoughts?


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Re: TSS Turkey Shot in Savage (Stevens Model 94) .410 [Re: Robert Martin] #8367233
03/18/25 11:21 AM
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My old .410 single shot breakdown that I have had since the about 1955 has killed turkeys with TSS. We hand roll our own and it shoots OK with the 3" chamber and full choke. The mylar inside the wad protects the barrel.


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Re: TSS Turkey Shot in Savage (Stevens Model 94) .410 [Re: Robert Martin] #8367239
03/18/25 11:32 AM
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Robert, the loads you have mentioned are mass produced loads I would not recommend for your intended purpose

With your gun having a fixed full choke it is going to need all the help it can get with patterns. Check out the Foxtrot ammunition 1oz 410 load. This is what I would recommend since it is more of a small batch, hand loaded, specialty type load.

The mass produced loads really need screw in performance chokes to make them acceptable, in my opinion


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Re: TSS Turkey Shot in Savage (Stevens Model 94) .410 [Re: coondagger2] #8367264
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Originally Posted by coondagger2
Robert, the loads you have mentioned are mass produced loads I would not recommend for your intended purpose

With your gun having a fixed full choke it is going to need all the help it can get with patterns. Check out the Foxtrot ammunition 1oz 410 load. This is what I would recommend since it is more of a small batch, hand loaded, specialty type load.

The mass produced loads really need screw in performance chokes to make them acceptable, in my opinion


Not arguing your post just adding my experience. The Boy shot his first turkey with a mossberg mini in 410 full choke pattern wasn't great past 30 yards but we waited and he killed it at 11 yards. If you aren't picky about the bird you want and are picky about the distance I'd think you can be successful with a full choke .410 that said it was expensive to pattern and I know nothing about the OP's gun specifically.


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Re: TSS Turkey Shot in Savage (Stevens Model 94) .410 [Re: Robert Martin] #8367277
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Originally Posted by Robert Martin
I have an old single shot break action Savage (Stevens Model 94) .410. Does anyone have any experience shooting the pricy TSS loads through them? I have two new turkey hunters coming up (daughters ages 10 and 12), and this old .410 would work great for the girls if it will kill birds.

Midway has the Federal TSS loads on sale:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1019777465?pid=847177

I see Winchester is not on sale, but cheaper:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1028014759?pid=278938

Fiocchi is even cheaper:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1026784440?pid=198031

I appreciate any feedback. Thanks,
Robert




I have that gun. Mine is the hammerless version but I'd imagine the barrel would be the same. I'd love to hear your results but I agree with you, buy a box of the cheapest you can get, and see how they pattern. I imagine you can find some cheaper than midway's prices too. Walmart even sells them of various brands, scheels is usually cheaper as well and cheaper shipping if you want to go through the process.

https://www.scheels.com/p/02089202911/?queryID=b7636f18dcd534eb097a8eb11af0a7dc - this says free shipping $6.60/rd.

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Re: TSS Turkey Shot in Savage (Stevens Model 94) .410 [Re: Robert Martin] #8367282
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Have a friend with a red dot mounted on a 410 single shot. He uses it for turkey with TSS shot.

Re: TSS Turkey Shot in Savage (Stevens Model 94) .410 [Re: Trap Setter] #8367288
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Originally Posted by Trap Setter
Not arguing your post just adding my experience. The Boy shot his first turkey with a mossberg mini in 410 full choke pattern wasn't great past 30 yards but we waited and he killed it at 11 yards. If you aren't picky about the bird you want and are picky about the distance I'd think you can be successful with a full choke .410 that said it was expensive to pattern and I know nothing about the OP's gun specifically.

Yes sir, I have killed 10 or 12 with the 410 now. Some of those with a factory full choke. The "cheap" tss loads will absolutely do the trick as long as you are patient with your shots. Just like the 410 lead shot loads will do the trick if you limit yourself to the range at which they pattern to.

Just trying to give the OP the best chance instead of "settling" if you will. At the end of the day its 30 bucks more spent for a box of 10. I can think of much worse things to splurge an extra 30 bucks on, but absolutely understand if someone would want to settle for a mass produced load


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Re: TSS Turkey Shot in Savage (Stevens Model 94) .410 [Re: coondagger2] #8367322
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Originally Posted by coondagger2
Robert, the loads you have mentioned are mass produced loads I would not recommend for your intended purpose

With your gun having a fixed full choke it is going to need all the help it can get with patterns. Check out the Foxtrot ammunition 1oz 410 load. This is what I would recommend since it is more of a small batch, hand loaded, specialty type load.

The mass produced loads really need screw in performance chokes to make them acceptable, in my opinion


Is that the outfit you said you did load development for?


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Re: TSS Turkey Shot in Savage (Stevens Model 94) .410 [Re: Robert Martin] #8367327
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I have never shot tss in a 410 but after reading about how it preforms here I bought 2 brands to test out. Wow I had no idea I could get patterns so small. I tried heaters and federal 3" tss and the heaters had a more constant spacing and tighter group. Yes it was an expensive experiment and eye opening. turned out I went with standard lead coper pleated #5 and the boys bot tagged out with those 30 seconds apart.

But as tight as the tss shot and that I was limiting their shots to 35 yards I wanted them to have a larger pattern. One killed his ar 12 and the other at 15 yards so it was a good call.

But I was very impressed with tss ability to pattern so tight and the difference in pattern density and even .Ness between brands.

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Re: TSS Turkey Shot in Savage (Stevens Model 94) .410 [Re: Robert Martin] #8367370
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