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Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: Providence Farm] #8380536
04/05/25 09:03 AM
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I guess Blaine County was not around for Carter. Debt needs paid. What is the alternative? Let the dollar collapse? Leave it for our grandkids to deal with? Raise income tax?

I say give it a chance. Lack of manufacturing has our country weak.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: spjones] #8380539
04/05/25 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by spjones
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Thanks for posting this. I had a Democrat friend I work with that had TDS . We are both focused on investing ans late last night he started texting me with f Trump voter and picturs of the drop charts.

I saw this and sent it to him got the typical excuses it's different becues my old retired parents ect
.. Told him drops happen should have plans for them. It's been a good example of people talking the talk of drops don't bother me tell it happens then they freak out.

Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: Providence Farm] #8380545
04/05/25 09:15 AM
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Surely some on here remember the decline of American manufacturing. Clinton signed the free trade agreement,,,,,. Ross Purot who was running for president said "YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A SUCKING SOUND AS BUISNESSES LEAVE THIS COUNTRY"....and he got laughed at. The decline of American greatness was disgusting. 1st the quality of products went down. 2nd then the price of the products went back up .....What took 30 years to destroy is probably not coming back. I support what the new President is trying to acomplish. But he has a long road ahead.

Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: Watersmt] #8380546
04/05/25 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Watersmt
Trapperkeck, actually it has affected us. I run a small company that is a manufacturer using materials that are tariffed. I used to purchase domestically but the materials are not produced here anymore. We have been in business for 31 years. I purchase domestically as much as I can, however it is just not possible. This week we are being charged with the tariffs on key items that I used to purchase in Ohio. I cannot purchase them from Ohio anymore. It is easy to say to just switch to a domestic supplier but that does not exist.i had to increase prices substantially this week and new orders shut down. If this debacle continues, I guess I will tell my 24 employees they are expendable. Very sad.



When things get tough like when two presidents banned my customers from coming to the U.S. for two years during covid, I like to comfort myself with these 9 words.


"I'm from the government, and I'm here to help". Better know as" the nine most dangerous words in the English language." smile

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Who is John Galt?
Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: Providence Farm] #8380548
04/05/25 09:21 AM
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When the skirts go up and the market goes up then what, prohibition? lol.

Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: cattails] #8380549
04/05/25 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by cattails
Surely some on here remember the decline of American manufacturing. Clinton signed the free trade agreement,,,,,. Ross Purot who was running for president said "YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A SUCKING SOUND AS BUISNESSES LEAVE THIS COUNTRY"....and he got laughed at. The decline of American greatness was disgusting. 1st the quality of products went down. 2nd then the price of the products went back up .....What took 30 years to destroy is probably not coming back. I support what the new President is trying to acomplish. But he has a long road ahead.

You are right, it's not coming back. It never was. We were living what we thought was good, but we were on borrowed time.

Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: danny clifton] #8380554
04/05/25 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I guess Blaine County was not around for Carter. Debt needs paid. What is the alternative? Let the dollar collapse? Leave it for our grandkids to deal with? Raise income tax?

I say give it a chance. Lack of manufacturing has our country weak.



What blunders did he commit by executive order that destroyed trillions of dollars of wealth in less than 90 days?

Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: Providence Farm] #8380555
04/05/25 09:31 AM
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Some manufacturing will come back,,

It will be automated/robotics and not huge mass employers,,,,,like in the past. Those days are gone

The world is going thru a huge transition

It’s going to be very different in 5 years

Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: Blaine County] #8380559
04/05/25 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by danny clifton
I guess Blaine County was not around for Carter. Debt needs paid. What is the alternative? Let the dollar collapse? Leave it for our grandkids to deal with? Raise income tax?

I say give it a chance. Lack of manufacturing has our country weak.



What blunders did he commit by executive order that destroyed trillions of dollars of wealth in less than 90 days?

"Destroyed" implies it's not coming back. I reckon, time will tell. I see a number of countries are already lifting their tariffs. Luckily, you can get your tariff-free Nikes from communist Vietnam now.


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Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: spjones] #8380560
04/05/25 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by spjones
Some manufacturing will come back,,

It will be automated/robotics and not huge mass employers,,,,,like in the past. Those days are gone

The world is going thru a huge transition

It’s going to be very different in 5 years



Hopefully that will free up the Union labor to pick lettuce and cucumbers.

Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: Providence Farm] #8380564
04/05/25 09:44 AM
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Fruit/veggie pickers are going to affected by automation/robotics big time!

Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: spjones] #8380568
04/05/25 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by spjones
Fruit/veggie pickers are going to affected by automation/robotics big time!


So what can the guy on the corner do since fentanyl will be gone and/or the union guy making $40 an hour will be replaced by technology. They will have to do something to earn their bowl of rice ! I doubt the billionaires will give it away as government freebies.

Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: Providence Farm] #8380569
04/05/25 09:54 AM
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Learn to code,,,lol

People are poor because they don’t produce enough,,, been like that forever,,,it’s not going to change

In the future,,,,successful folks will use robotics/automation to produce things/services

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Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: Providence Farm] #8380588
04/05/25 10:10 AM
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Maybe War will be a big employer or a great a annihilator ?

Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: Providence Farm] #8380591
04/05/25 10:13 AM
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JPMorgan becomes the first Wall Street bank to forecast a US recession following Trump's tariffs

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jpmo...-following-trumps-tariffs-222019272.html

Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: Providence Farm] #8380592
04/05/25 10:14 AM
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It generally is

Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: Providence Farm] #8380606
04/05/25 10:30 AM
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You first Blaine. Whats your plan to prevent a dollar crash by lowering the debt?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: ILcooner] #8380607
04/05/25 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ILcooner
JPMorgan becomes the first Wall Street bank to forecast a US recession following Trump's tariffs

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jpmo...-following-trumps-tariffs-222019272.html

Gee, I wonder why. Think McFly, think.

Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: Providence Farm] #8380612
04/05/25 10:40 AM
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Nobody is reducing the debt. What the heck are we talking about now? crazy

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Re: what happened to the stock market collapse [Re: danny clifton] #8380617
04/05/25 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
You first Blaine. Whats your plan to prevent a dollar crash by lowering the debt?


His plan is status quo.



The debt can't be reduced with our pain.


"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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