lol…..you looked it up but are obviously having trouble understanding what it says. Your posting answers that contradict what you’re saying, that’s why I asked if you were into the sauce.

For goodness sake don't show this to the liquor cycle gang on here. According to a few on here, alcohol is nearly harmless. Almost necessary to them.

Hmmm?

Maybe they could have a nice glass of Chianti while they dare to watch a show on how harmful alcohol is to the body. Somehow, I guarantee that won't happen or they will label Huberman a kook or a liberal. Never mind actually learning something.

That would be silly.

Why is it some people give a crap less about sweets and some people have to close their eyes when they are near sweets?

Why is it some people cannot eat/don't like some meats? I know several people who don't like read meat.

Both of these conditions started with one bite.

Psorosis of the liver is generally caused by overconsumption of alcohol. It begins with one innocent drink.

Obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure is generally caused by over consumption of sugar. It begins with one innocent taste. I have never known anyone who was obese or suffered with weight issues who ate meat, vegetables and fruits. I know A LOT of people who are overweight/obese who eat way too many sweets/carbs.

Now why can some people eat a single piece of chocolate pie and not care to have another. Yet some, if given the chance, would sit there and eat the whole pie?

I get the "choice" argument. But if one is honest, different people have different propensities and tendencies for things that are bad for them. Their body turns on the switch for twinkies and says "I want more!!!"

I could give a crap less about alcohol. I do like sweets but only in a bite or two now and again, usually with family or as a treat when out with my kids. My tendency is towards salt.

I love salty stuff. Some people who eat my home cooking will comment that its a little salty.

Now here is where I will say my love of salt is either physical or genetic, whichever you choose. Anytime I get blood work done, my sodium is always................low. I eat more salt than the average guy but my sodium is low. Genetic? Idk? But it is factual.

I am not saying all alcoholics aren't without psychological issues. Many times alcohol gives those with issues a way out of reality for only a moment so they can forget about what scares them or frustrates them.

I am not saying alcoholism isn't a choice. It most certainly can be and is sometimes. But just like some people have a craving for reese's they cannot explain and yet don't care how bad it is for them, the same can be said for alcohol although the side effects and people it touches and damages cannot be compared. Alcohol is one of the worst things you can put in your body. But if we are honest, so is sugar. Both are legal and have massive lobbies.

So give a little grace for the people with "X" addiction and thank GOD you don't have it.

Sorry for the problems going on in your family foxxkid. I will pray for your family and all who are affected by this tragedy.

Your last sentence reminds me of some of the clips I've seen on TV where the guy said, "Here, hold my beer ". Then does something really stupid nearly killing himself.

Not all of the not-so-good decisions rose to that level but I had a few!

I believe with an alcoholic the addiction becomes a physical addiction, not just a mental addiction.

I'm presently not physically addicted.

Many alcoholic types will say they don’t have a problem but deny the immediate access to alcohol and they fall apart quickly not a criticism just a fact. They justify the right or defy logic to make their case.

Our gun club broke up because some members would, could not put it down before shooting trap it seemed they should be in treatment if they could not wait a 1/2 hour to drink. We asked then to wait until they were done shooting then have at it but they would not budge. The same crew took bee to the kids pheasant hunt their logic was they were not shooting to it was not an issue.

We went from 17 teams down to 3 teams after that and shortly after that the drinkers moved on, like said nothing good comes from drinking.

I worked at this paper mill. 12 hour shifts. There was a couple guys who had coolers in their cars with beer. After finishing shift and off the clock , they would crack one open for the ride home.

They lived 5 minutes from the mill. Not drunk behind the wheel , but risking getting a DUI on the ride home.
They couldn't wait 5 minutes until they got home.

^^^^….. Half the people in this county ride around with a cold beer at all times

When I was doing my Journeyman's evaluation at our training center, me and the instructor were running after hours while I was finishing building my open delta bank. After I was done, he said we should have a beer, too bad the bar is 1/2 hour away. I told him to hang on, pulled my truck into the compound and we had a few under the radar....lol. I always had a bottle or a cooler full of beer close by. As a trainee, that was expected.

Worked at a dealership in IL the mechanics would go on “road taste”not road test and drank during their lunch hours. The same guys working on people family cars they thought nothin of it.

I once quit a job because the dude I was commuting with was stopping at the gas station for a sixer for the ride home. We had an hour commute on the interstate in a company car and he downed the whole sixer on the way home. One day of that was enough, and when I discussed this with the owner of the dealership, his response was basically "oh well, the guy is making me lots of money". No way was I going to work for a place with that attitude.

Must be a cultural thing…. Around here it’s not uncommon at all for grown men to have an ice chest in the bed of the truck full of beer to drink on all day … nobody blinks an eye

If he Hogged down the whole 6 pack with out offering you a couple,then I dont blame you.

There are both genes that make you more likely to be an alcoholic and what they call protector genes, which make you less likely to be an alcoholic. Personal choice is still a big factor in alcoholism.

Keith

100%…..what a A hole!

I don’t know about the genetic propensity about the addition to alcohol, I’m not a doctor, scientist or anything like that. My grandfatheron my dads side,was a mean alcoholic ..but my dad hardly ever touched it,, had 2 uncles who have passed away, who were alcoholic, ( lost their wives because of it too) .
I can have a shot or two of whiskey about once or twice a Month and that’s about it.
My sister doesn’t use alcohol at all.
So I don’t know,,,is it or not,,, the genetic propensity??
All I know is that I just wish he could be physically free of it.. he’s destroyed a lot of things in his years of drinking and even if he manages to get his life together,, going to be a lot of people with hard feelings

It's sad for lives destroyed or hurt by alcohol abuse ....but let's not forget some of he good alcohol can do too. Many a time a parcel of beers has relieved the stress I felt from work. And finally, I knew a guy that got drunk at a 4th of July party at the US embassy in Quito and missed his morning flight back to Cuenca the next day. That TAME flight hit trees in the fog coming in to land and crashed. All died.

Alcohol positively saved his life.

I can't imagine filleting fish after a full day of fishing without a cold beer,..it seems so sacrosanct.
It feels good in it's reward,..despite

When I was ironworking the co workers were mostly hard drinking and drugging individuals. I had been offered a travel Forman job building smoke stacks for the company I had worked for on 3 stacks. The pay would have been well over 6 figure and and an additional 35k untaxabe in for traveling expenses. Now this was 20 years ago and that was a lot more money than it is now.

I was very tempted to take the job offer. It also included not only paying my union benefits pension and annuity but also company pension in addition to.

My daughter was 5 and wife was pregnant with my son that was killed in the wreck later. I looked at all the old hands 40+ remember I was 25 or so. and saw them all divorced Ann heading to the bar after work most with iced down beer waiting in the truck for quiting time. I HAD TO DO SOME Hard thinking

I didn't want to be like those guys wanting to stay married and not be in the place they were. I didn't want to watch my kids grow up in pictures.

I figured it would get old being in a hotel or campground every night and at some point I would end up at the bar playing pool or throwing darts. now and them. That would turn into every day and that one or 2 beers would become 10 to 18. I also know my faults and that the females in said bars would end up spending to much time with me especially if I had a few. And like I said I wanted to stay married.

And yes there were times in the summer I would knock down a few tall boys on the way home my last ironworking job comes to mind. 6 pack of 24 Oz beer some days down within a few hours of being home. Never addicted never a problem to put down. Much more and more often than just that one drink. Blows me away how many of you want to act like people have no choice or control over their choices and actions.

So I declined the job offer. Found out about my job at the same time and put in for it been here 19 years . Life is about choices.