Re: Another life destroyed by alcoholism
[Re: upstateNY]
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04/24/25 07:22 AM
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Unless they changed the definition of disease, thats only your opinionwhich holds no water..lol I didnt make it up,,,I looked it up.You should do the same. lol..you looked it up but are obviously having trouble understanding what it says. Your posting answers that contradict what youre saying, thats why I asked if you were into the sauce.
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Re: Another life destroyed by alcoholism
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04/24/25 11:00 AM
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Booze destroys a lot of lives. Sorry about OP's brother.
One of the best decisions I ever made years ago was to never have another drink. Not even a drop. I cannot think of a good decision I made drunk. Your last sentence reminds me of some of the clips I've seen on TV where the guy said, "Here, hold my beer ". Then does something really stupid nearly killing himself.
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Re: Another life destroyed by alcoholism
[Re: Trapper7]
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Booze destroys a lot of lives. Sorry about OP's brother.
One of the best decisions I ever made years ago was to never have another drink. Not even a drop. I cannot think of a good decision I made drunk. Your last sentence reminds me of some of the clips I've seen on TV where the guy said, "Here, hold my beer ". Then does something really stupid nearly killing himself. Not all of the not-so-good decisions rose to that level but I had a few!
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Re: Another life destroyed by alcoholism
[Re: foxkidd44]
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04/24/25 12:48 PM
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I believe with an alcoholic the addiction becomes a physical addiction, not just a mental addiction.
I'm presently not physically addicted.
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Re: Another life destroyed by alcoholism
[Re: foxkidd44]
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04/24/25 01:13 PM
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Many alcoholic types will say they dont have a problem but deny the immediate access to alcohol and they fall apart quickly not a criticism just a fact. They justify the right or defy logic to make their case.
Our gun club broke up because some members would, could not put it down before shooting trap it seemed they should be in treatment if they could not wait a 1/2 hour to drink. We asked then to wait until they were done shooting then have at it but they would not budge. The same crew took bee to the kids pheasant hunt their logic was they were not shooting to it was not an issue.
We went from 17 teams down to 3 teams after that and shortly after that the drinkers moved on, like said nothing good comes from drinking.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Another life destroyed by alcoholism
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04/24/25 03:09 PM
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Many alcoholic types will say they dont have a problem but deny the immediate access to alcohol and they fall apart quickly not a criticism just a fact. They justify the right or defy logic to make their case.
Our gun club broke up because some members would, could not put it down before shooting trap it seemed they should be in treatment if they could not wait a 1/2 hour to drink. We asked then to wait until they were done shooting then have at it but they would not budge. The same crew took bee to the kids pheasant hunt their logic was they were not shooting to it was not an issue.
We went from 17 teams down to 3 teams after that and shortly after that the drinkers moved on, like said nothing good comes from drinking. I worked at this paper mill. 12 hour shifts. There was a couple guys who had coolers in their cars with beer. After finishing shift and off the clock , they would crack one open for the ride home. They lived 5 minutes from the mill. Not drunk behind the wheel , but risking getting a DUI on the ride home. They couldn't wait 5 minutes until they got home.
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Re: Another life destroyed by alcoholism
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04/24/25 03:15 PM
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^^^^.. Half the people in this county ride around with a cold beer at all times
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Re: Another life destroyed by alcoholism
[Re: foxkidd44]
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04/24/25 04:15 PM
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When I was doing my Journeyman's evaluation at our training center, me and the instructor were running after hours while I was finishing building my open delta bank. After I was done, he said we should have a beer, too bad the bar is 1/2 hour away. I told him to hang on, pulled my truck into the compound and we had a few under the radar....lol. I always had a bottle or a cooler full of beer close by. As a trainee, that was expected.
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Re: Another life destroyed by alcoholism
[Re: foxkidd44]
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04/24/25 04:29 PM
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Worked at a dealership in IL the mechanics would go on road tastenot road test and drank during their lunch hours. The same guys working on people family cars they thought nothin of it.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Another life destroyed by alcoholism
[Re: foxkidd44]
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04/24/25 04:59 PM
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Must be a cultural thing. Around here its not uncommon at all for grown men to have an ice chest in the bed of the truck full of beer to drink on all day nobody blinks an eye
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Re: Another life destroyed by alcoholism
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I once quit a job because the dude I was commuting with was stopping at the gas station for a sixer for the ride home. We had an hour commute on the interstate in a company car and he downed the whole sixer on the way home. One day of that was enough, and when I discussed this with the owner of the dealership, his response was basically "oh well, the guy is making me lots of money". No way was I going to work for a place with that attitude. I once quit a job because the dude I was commuting with was stopping at the gas station for a sixer for the ride home. We had an hour commute on the interstate in a company car and he downed the whole sixer on the way home. One day of that was enough, and when I discussed this with the owner of the dealership, his response was basically "oh well, the guy is making me lots of money". No way was I going to work for a place with that attitude. If he Hogged down the whole 6 pack with out offering you a couple,then I dont blame you.
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Re: Another life destroyed by alcoholism
[Re: upstateNY]
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04/24/25 07:32 PM
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I once quit a job because the dude I was commuting with was stopping at the gas station for a sixer for the ride home. We had an hour commute on the interstate in a company car and he downed the whole sixer on the way home. One day of that was enough, and when I discussed this with the owner of the dealership, his response was basically "oh well, the guy is making me lots of money". No way was I going to work for a place with that attitude. If he Hogged down the whole 6 pack with out offering you a couple,then I dont blame you. 100%..what a A hole!
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Re: Another life destroyed by alcoholism
[Re: foxkidd44]
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04/24/25 07:37 PM
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I dont know about the genetic propensity about the addition to alcohol, Im not a doctor, scientist or anything like that. My grandfatheron my dads side,was a mean alcoholic ..but my dad hardly ever touched it,, had 2 uncles who have passed away, who were alcoholic, ( lost their wives because of it too) . I can have a shot or two of whiskey about once or twice a Month and thats about it. My sister doesnt use alcohol at all. So I dont know,,,is it or not,,, the genetic propensity?? All I know is that I just wish he could be physically free of it.. hes destroyed a lot of things in his years of drinking and even if he manages to get his life together,, going to be a lot of people with hard feelings
Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last. Abraham Lincoln
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Re: Another life destroyed by alcoholism
[Re: foxkidd44]
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04/24/25 08:02 PM
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It's sad for lives destroyed or hurt by alcohol abuse ....but let's not forget some of he good alcohol can do too. Many a time a parcel of beers has relieved the stress I felt from work. And finally, I knew a guy that got drunk at a 4th of July party at the US embassy in Quito and missed his morning flight back to Cuenca the next day. That TAME flight hit trees in the fog coming in to land and crashed. All died.
Alcohol positively saved his life.
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Re: Another life destroyed by alcoholism
[Re: foxkidd44]
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04/25/25 12:25 AM
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Had a buddy that was a bouncer at a bar he said any married guy that worked there was divorced when they left the job.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Another life destroyed by alcoholism
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04/25/25 12:52 AM
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Must be a cultural thing. Around here its not uncommon at all for grown men to have an ice chest in the bed of the truck full of beer to drink on all day nobody blinks an eye
Same here Savell. When I get done with the tractor and planting in the evenings, first thing I do is blow off all equipment and grease it and lube it. Sure is nice to have a cold one in the cooler on the flatbed. Pretty much every farmer, bohemian, and working class man operates that way as well around here. I don't mind working with or hiring a drinker that shows up on time; its the drugheads that I can't deal with.
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