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I believe the court found he could not do stundent loan forgiveness under the Heroes act. That never occurred. He did some student loan forgiveness under some existing laws, primarily one to forgive student loans of our beloved public servants
Who is John Galt?
Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS
[Re: Dirt]
#8406526 05/20/2503:16 PM05/20/2503:16 PM
I believe the court found he could not do stundent loan forgiveness under the Heroes act. That never occurred. He did some student loan forgiveness under some existing laws, primarily one to forgive student loans of our beloved public servants
He did it anyway was the point after being told not to until it got the 86. How many years of interest was lost on this?
Last edited by Law Dog; 05/20/2503:18 PM.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS
[Re: snowy]
#8406528 05/20/2503:17 PM05/20/2503:17 PM
I believe the court found he could not do stundent loan forgiveness under the Heroes act. That never occurred. He did some student loan forgiveness under some existing laws, primarily one to forgive student loans of our beloved public servants
He did it anyway was the point after being told not to until it got the 86. How many years of interest was lost on this?
Supreme court cases and decisions are far more complicated than just one-liners. The court didn't just say "biden can't forgive student loans". They said, through a 77 page decision, that he couldn't do it one certain specific way, by invoking the HEROES Act as the basis for his executive authority to forgive loans. After the supreme court decision, Biden then tried to forgive loans through the Higher Education Act of 1965.
Biden is a goon for trying to forgive loans at all, but it's also goony to say Biden ignored the supreme court when that's factually incorrect. He abided by the decision in Biden v Nebraska and quit trying to forgive laons using the HEROS act, and instead tried to forgive student loans using the Higher Education Act of 1965.
Illegals became asylum seekers to circumvent the rule of law it’s the same people they just manipulated the laws to get what they wanted that did not make it right.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS
[Re: loosegoose]
#8406547 05/20/2504:14 PM05/20/2504:14 PM
Supreme court cases and decisions are far more complicated than just one-liners. The court didn't just say "biden can't forgive student loans". They said, through a 77 page decision, that he couldn't do it one certain specific way, .
so, if President Trump starts sending illegals back under a different law, he should be gold until/if SCOTUS says no.
ad infinitum....
Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS
[Re: Law Dog]
#8406548 05/20/2504:14 PM05/20/2504:14 PM
I believe the court found he could not do stundent loan forgiveness under the Heroes act. That never occurred. He did some student loan forgiveness under some existing laws, primarily one to forgive student loans of our beloved public servants
He did it anyway was the point after being told not to until it got the 86. How many years of interest was lost on this?
Not sure we were collecting interest when he tried thanks to this.
"The road to the executive order was a winding one, starting with a directive from the Secretary of Education sent to the office of Student Federal Aid to provide loan forbearance on federal student loans in March 2020.
That directive included a suspension of loan payments for the duration of the forbearance. A loan forbearance program is not a cancellation of a student loan, but rather a moratorium on collecting payments.
Those payments under forbearance are not forgiven–that would be something called loan forgiveness or loan modification. The full amount of the loan is still owed, though the lender and borrower may have to renegotiate part of the loan or come to some understanding of how the loan is to be amortized.
But loan forbearance, in this particular case, includes not only suspended loan payments but also suspended collection action on federal loans that have gone into default as well as setting the interest rate on the loan to 0% for a limited time."
Who is John Galt?
Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS
[Re: Blaine County]
#8406560 05/20/2505:02 PM05/20/2505:02 PM
They all lie. Fox, CNN, Newsmax, MSNBC, White House Press Secretaries (the new blonde bimbo and the former black bimbo), every politician, every pundit, the past President, the current President, etc.
Nobody is worse than the other. A lot of you guys just think they are because of what you want to believe. Each side knows this and pushes your buttons accordingly.
"They all lie". Coming from an attorney is awesome.
Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS
[Re: snowy]
#8406568 05/20/2505:24 PM05/20/2505:24 PM
They all lie. Fox, CNN, Newsmax, MSNBC, White House Press Secretaries (the new blonde bimbo and the former black bimbo), every politician, every pundit, the past President, the current President, etc.
Nobody is worse than the other. A lot of you guys just think they are because of what you want to believe. Each side knows this and pushes your buttons accordingly.
"They all lie". Coming from an attorney is awesome.
WI Outdoors wins the internet, today!!!
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[Re: snowy]
#8406576 05/20/2505:33 PM05/20/2505:33 PM
A guy making his living distorting the truth for a living complaining about people lying for a living now that is priceless. My lawyer buddy could not grasp the Lawfare insanity and States trying to keep a candidate off the ballot for what he was not convicted for with some old civil war law Law 101
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS
[Re: white marlin]
#8406607 05/20/2506:35 PM05/20/2506:35 PM
Supreme court cases and decisions are far more complicated than just one-liners. The court didn't just say "biden can't forgive student loans". They said, through a 77 page decision, that he couldn't do it one certain specific way, .
so, if President Trump starts sending illegals back under a different law, he should be gold until/if SCOTUS says no.
ad infinitum....
He should be able to get away with it as long as the illegals have their due process. Unfortunately, the due process judge can stop individual deportations. Judges for sure can overrule Presidential EO's in their districts. Even the Aliens Act required due process the court determined.
Who is John Galt?
Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS
[Re: snowy]
#8406609 05/20/2506:36 PM05/20/2506:36 PM
did the illegals care about "due process" when they entered the country illegally?
asking for a friend.
you should ask the illegals? I bet they counted on it. The Constitution is what it is. The 14th has been interpreted to mean this. Of course it was about slaves, and was illegally ratified, maybe we should challenge the 14th?