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Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: snowy] #8406482
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Biden was the only one that ignored the supreme court judgement that I know of but I'm sure Trump has done it 100 times.

Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: Rat Masterson] #8406483
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Biden was the only one that ignored the supreme court judgement that I know of but I'm sure Trump has done it 100 times.


Which one was it?


Who is John Galt?
Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: Dirt] #8406491
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Biden was the only one that ignored the supreme court judgement that I know of but I'm sure Trump has done it 100 times.


Which one was it?


Was it the student loan buy a vote programing?


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: snowy] #8406498
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more than ONCE!

Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: snowy] #8406522
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Winner winner chicken dinner. Student loan forgiveness, which I'm sure many Rino's loved it.

Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: snowy] #8406525
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I believe the court found he could not do stundent loan forgiveness under the
Heroes act. That never occurred. He did some student loan forgiveness under some existing laws, primarily one to forgive student loans of our beloved public servants


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Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: Dirt] #8406526
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Originally Posted by Dirt
I believe the court found he could not do stundent loan forgiveness under the
Heroes act. That never occurred. He did some student loan forgiveness under some existing laws, primarily one to forgive student loans of our beloved public servants



He did it anyway was the point after being told not to until it got the 86. How many years of interest was lost on this?

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Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: snowy] #8406528
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Bout sums it up...Dirty laundry

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Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: Law Dog] #8406532
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Originally Posted by Dirt
I believe the court found he could not do stundent loan forgiveness under the
Heroes act. That never occurred. He did some student loan forgiveness under some existing laws, primarily one to forgive student loans of our beloved public servants



He did it anyway was the point after being told not to until it got the 86. How many years of interest was lost on this?



Supreme court cases and decisions are far more complicated than just one-liners. The court didn't just say "biden can't forgive student loans". They said, through a 77 page decision, that he couldn't do it one certain specific way, by invoking the HEROES Act as the basis for his executive authority to forgive loans. After the supreme court decision, Biden then tried to forgive loans through the Higher Education Act of 1965.

Biden is a goon for trying to forgive loans at all, but it's also goony to say Biden ignored the supreme court when that's factually incorrect. He abided by the decision in Biden v Nebraska and quit trying to forgive laons using the HEROS act, and instead tried to forgive student loans using the Higher Education Act of 1965.

Here is the case for anyone interested.

Here is the wiki article for Biden v Nebraska.

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Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: snowy] #8406540
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He tried then tried again after being told no the end! LOL


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Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: snowy] #8406546
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Illegals became asylum seekers to circumvent the rule of law it’s the same people they just manipulated the laws to get what they wanted that did not make it right.


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Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: loosegoose] #8406547
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Supreme court cases and decisions are far more complicated than just one-liners. The court didn't just say "biden can't forgive student loans". They said, through a 77 page decision, that he couldn't do it one certain specific way, .


so, if President Trump starts sending illegals back under a different law, he should be gold until/if SCOTUS says no.

ad infinitum....

Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: Law Dog] #8406548
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Originally Posted by Dirt
I believe the court found he could not do stundent loan forgiveness under the
Heroes act. That never occurred. He did some student loan forgiveness under some existing laws, primarily one to forgive student loans of our beloved public servants



He did it anyway was the point after being told not to until it got the 86. How many years of interest was lost on this?


Not sure we were collecting interest when he tried thanks to this.

"The road to the executive order was a winding one, starting with a directive from the Secretary of Education sent to the office of Student Federal Aid to provide loan forbearance on federal student loans in March 2020.

That directive included a suspension of loan payments for the duration of the forbearance. A loan forbearance program is not a cancellation of a student loan, but rather a moratorium on collecting payments.

Those payments under forbearance are not forgiven–that would be something called loan forgiveness or loan modification. The full amount of the loan is still owed, though the lender and borrower may have to renegotiate part of the loan or come to some understanding of how the loan is to be amortized.

But loan forbearance, in this particular case, includes not only suspended loan payments but also suspended collection action on federal loans that have gone into default as well as setting the interest rate on the loan to 0% for a limited time."


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Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: Blaine County] #8406560
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
They all lie. Fox, CNN, Newsmax, MSNBC, White House Press Secretaries (the new blonde bimbo and the former black bimbo), every politician, every pundit, the past President, the current President, etc.

Nobody is worse than the other. A lot of you guys just think they are because of what you want to believe. Each side knows this and pushes your buttons accordingly.

"They all lie". Coming from an attorney is awesome.

Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: snowy] #8406568
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The media will NEVER let the facts get in the way of a good story!


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Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: WI Outdoors] #8406570
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Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
Originally Posted by Blaine County
They all lie. Fox, CNN, Newsmax, MSNBC, White House Press Secretaries (the new blonde bimbo and the former black bimbo), every politician, every pundit, the past President, the current President, etc.

Nobody is worse than the other. A lot of you guys just think they are because of what you want to believe. Each side knows this and pushes your buttons accordingly.

"They all lie". Coming from an attorney is awesome.


WI Outdoors wins the internet, today!!!

Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: snowy] #8406576
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A guy making his living distorting the truth for a living complaining about people lying for a living now that is priceless. My lawyer buddy could not grasp the Lawfare insanity and States trying to keep a candidate off the ballot for what he was not convicted for with some old civil war law
Law 101


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Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: white marlin] #8406607
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by loosegoose
Supreme court cases and decisions are far more complicated than just one-liners. The court didn't just say "biden can't forgive student loans". They said, through a 77 page decision, that he couldn't do it one certain specific way, .


so, if President Trump starts sending illegals back under a different law, he should be gold until/if SCOTUS says no.

ad infinitum....


He should be able to get away with it as long as the illegals have their due process. Unfortunately, the due process judge can stop individual deportations. Judges for sure can overrule Presidential EO's in their districts. Even the Aliens Act required due process the court determined.


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Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: snowy] #8406609
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did the illegals care about "due process" when they entered the country illegally?

asking for a friend.

Re: Doom/Gloom the Sky is Falling is BS [Re: white marlin] #8406610
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Originally Posted by white marlin
did the illegals care about "due process" when they entered the country illegally?

asking for a friend.


you should ask the illegals? I bet they counted on it. The Constitution is what it is. The 14th has been interpreted to mean this. Of course it was about slaves, and was illegally ratified, maybe we should challenge the 14th?


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