We just spent a year and half on Isaiah and i agree with it alone and my life experiences it would be enough to convince me. Too many prophetic words fulfilled in it alone by Jesus.

I will tackle some of this. I too have read and watched as carbon dating of new materials comes back millions of years old. With heat and pressure and flooding - materials can be changed and scientific samples taken and examined and random dates assigned according to interpretation. Flood could easily kill sea animals by dilution of needed materials in the sea. Don't believe me - get a salt water aquarium, buy a bunch of expensive salt water fish and fill it with fresh water.
Show me one example of a flood before Noah or I will simplify it for you - show me one example of a rain before then. And again - show me where the Earth was ever covered by water before the flood.

Again, many people simply can't believe what the Bible says and don't even truly know it enough to know what it says. Quit assuming things and research them. It is ok to question things but we should all try to use critical thinking skills and learn. My faith has led me to many, many questions I have researched and experienced for myself. I have learned to believe and trust in Jesus and the Word.
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First of all, I don't remember saying someone was making fake fossils and having them dated millions of years old. But, I can see where shysters might do something like that to make a buck. I made mention that we found sea shells on a mountain in CO while elk hunting there. If tectonic plates made the sea high and dry, sea dwelling animals would perish.

In Genesis chapter 1, it clearly says the earth was formless and void and God made the waters recede and the land became visible. This would have been before the flood of Noah. You don't have to research that, it's a fact. Some bible scholars say there could have been many floods prior to Genesis 1. I don't know if there was or not, but the earth was flooded prior to the flood of Noah. That's just common sense.

I think it does. It definitely predicts his return in both gospels. The generation he refers to is the generation at that future time, not the generation alive when he spoke these words.

2 Thessalonians 2, Paul is talking about the return of Jesus. He is referring to the anti-christ who is revealed as a man who exalts himself above God as he takes his seat in the temple displaying himself as being God.

I agree, a flood could possibly kill sea creatures, a drought would be more likely. I try to use critical thinking like science. Im pretty sure it was you that made that post but it doesnt matter now, it is gone- I cant find it. They were fossils already when the tektonic plates pushed them up to the top of the mountain. You say the earth was flooded prior to the flood of Noah, How is that common sense and where did the extra water come from?

He was talking to that generation. Otherwise what good is fleeing to the mountains? You can't escape from God's final judgment, but you might be able to hide from an army. Yes, the destruction of Jerusalem was God's judgment on the unbelieving Jews. It changed everything for them. No more sacrificial system (Christ was the last sacrifice.) The temple desecration and destruction. Even the part about scorging prophets in the synagogue. Sounds familiar because Paul and others were beaten and scouged by the Jews. All this happened in the first century.

"When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near." I don't know how he could have made it any plainer, but for some reason people want to move all this into the future and applaud for Israel the nation instead of Jesus.

In Genesis chapter 1, it clearly says the earth was formless and void and God made the waters recede and the land became visible. - quote from Trapper7

I agree with the earth as formless and void and waters being present as the Spirit of the Lord moved on them. I read again and see a firmament or vault then being created (heaven). Waters were then split above and below heaven (Day2) On day 3 waters below the firmament were gathered together and dry earth or land was formed. I disagree water receded and it became visible - it had not been formed or created. The earth was without form........it is difficult to comprehend but we all need to slow down and learn what the Bible says, not what we think we know. I myself just learned again on day 3 with the land formed, then plants and grass were created - a full day before the sun. Wonder how they functioned without photosynthesis...........I can't explain it but believe it.

genesis says the word cattle what are cattle for if not to kill and eat?
so death was already on its why
and god made domesticated cows sheep goats dogs pig and many other nope man did we can trace it back 10,000 years or more
don't get me wrong i would like to believe again but once's you see the magic trick
you can't unsee it
and when it doesn't make sense anymore you can't make it

The premise of carbon14 dating of fossils is already sketchy. We know that carbon14 cannot date anything older than about 60,000 years and is most reliable to about 20-25,000 years. Millions of years is not possible and nobody except people trying to disprove science would even go down that road.

GS, Jesus and Paul are referring to his return in combination to the other things. If it was that present generation he was referring to, when did Jesus return? The only group I know of that say Jesus has already returned are the Jehovah Witnesses.

Let me ask another question just to get you thinking: when was Jesus ' first coming? Because it is in the Bible and it wasn't as a baby.

The first coming would be mentioned in John1:1.

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I believe Jesus speaking to an audience that understood old testament judgment language. .
Hears a few..
Lev 16:2 Ezekial 30:3 joel2:2 Zephiniah 1:15 (comes in clouds)
Isaiah 13:10. 34:4. Ez 32:7-8 Jer4:27-28 darkness, stars falling.
Apocalyptic type language.

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Hear is a good example of prophecy leading to Jesus regarding the stars falling.
If you read it in context .
Obviously this is not actual Starz.
It's speaking of how the family of Jacob will bow to there brother Joseph.
Another interesting prophecy that falls in line with this is the 70 weeks of Daniel.
70 7s.
I don't believe it was by chance that Jesus told Peter to forgive your Brother 70 ×7
This would be in line with the time line of the beginning of Daniel's prophecy to the time spoken of by Luke.
( these are the days of vengeance or judgment.) Ch 21 I believe.

John 1:1 tells us that Jesus pre existed everything. But I was speaking about the first time he appeared as a man. Scholars tell us that the angel of God mentioned a few times in the Old Testament was actually Jesus appearing as a man.
Now, there are historical writings that indicate strange miracles and Jesus appearing during the Jewish war of 70 AD. That's not concrete evidence that it's true but there's no reason to rule it out, either. Of course it also doesn't mean there won't be a future return.

Skinner , are you speaking of instances like the Lord coming to Abraham before the distruction of Sadom.
Or
maybe when he appeared to Joshua by the river Jordan as a Man with a sword.
Or maybe even as early as Adam and Eve heard the lord walking in the cool of the day in the Garden.

they don't even know who wrote what we have now and call the bible and it took 1500 years
god has to be the worst communicator.. he? wrote it on grass and skins no problem there
as copies got old just make a new copy by hand oops i missed a few lines a paragraph
a chapter .. is that ( a we or a them ) i can't make it out just guess, thousands of
clerical errors, we do not have the original anymore. so what did really say?

Where does it say he did that all at once?

You seem to miss It's GOD your speaking of. Creator if everything. If he wants his word preserved it will be. If he wants a whale to come up and give you transportation and you be alive when you get there you will be and it will. If he wants 300 foxes to be used to start a fire they likely walked right up and wanted to get the fire fastened to them

When the LORD wants something done it will be done. Often it will be unbelievable and against all odds and it's by design to leave zero doubt it was God's hand.

Yes. I'm not sure about the garden of Eden...never really thought about that being Jesus, but of course, why wouldn't it be? He appeared to Abraham as a man to re affirm the promise of a son, too.

There's no significant differences between the writings from the dead sea scrolls and the ones that made it in the Bible. Those clerical errors are irrelevant, because the theology remains intact.