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Boots on the ground #8421882
06/18/25 02:20 PM
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What about butts in cockpits or sailors at sea? Do they count as well?

Easy to say no army invading but planes get shot at too and so do ships.

I do not want a single American put in harm's way on a fools mission.

I pray that this time is different but I'm afraid these words may still apply today.

They came on in the same old way, and we sent them back in the same old way. - Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington


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Re: Boots on the ground [Re: warrior] #8421884
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If those wing nuts are actually close to a nuke, thats what our military is for imo. Way better if we don’t end up with boots on the ground though.

Re: Boots on the ground [Re: warrior] #8421885
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Sorry dude, it's how it's spose to be......

This war has gone on for several thousand years,

The USA will be nothing but collateral damage in the end

Time is coming short and I am not a conspiory theorist

It has to happen, may or may not be this time

Re: Boots on the ground [Re: Buzzard] #8421889
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Originally Posted by Buzzard
Sorry dude, it's how it's spose to be......

This war has gone on for several thousand years,

The USA will be nothing but collateral damage in the end

Time is coming short and I am not a conspiory theorist

It has to happen, may or may not be this time

If ya wanna know what will happen, just watch the Simpsons.

Re: Boots on the ground [Re: WI Outdoors] #8421897
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Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
Originally Posted by Buzzard
Sorry dude, it's how it's spose to be......

This war has gone on for several thousand years,

The USA will be nothing but collateral damage in the end

Time is coming short and I am not a conspiory theorist

It has to happen, may or may not be this time

If ya wanna know what will happen, just watch the Simpsons.



Might just wanna read the book of Revelations

Re: Boots on the ground [Re: warrior] #8422119
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It worked so good in Iraq and then again in Afghanistan. mad

Re: Boots on the ground [Re: warrior] #8422130
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7 out of 8 Iranians want the Islamists out of Iran. They have taken over the TV and are calling for an uprising. Israel armed the Persian Iranian freedom fighters and we likely did too. We definitely armed the Kurds. I think this is going to end very well for the US, Israel and the people wanting to be free in Iran. I think we likely won't lose any of our military personnel, who aren't in Special Operations with the Iranian opposition. Those brave men, if we lose any, won't make the news. They pretty much never do.

There will be a lot of former US military members, who now work for mercenary companies, doing much of the heavy targeted fighting. We will pay for that.

Keith

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Originally Posted by humptulips
It worked so good in Iraq and then again in Afghanistan. mad


Remember the last words of the radio transmission from Thomas Polgar, CIA Station Head, before he boarded one of the last helicopters leaving the Embassy rooftop in Saigon on 4/30/75…..

“ Those who fail to learn from history are forced to repeat it. Let us hope that we will not have another Vietnam experience and that we have learned our lesson. Saigon signing off. “ Afghanistan and Iraq proved that the lesson wasn’t learned.

The US really has no plan as to what a conquered Iran would look like. Like dogs that chase cars….whats their plan if they catch one ?

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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
Originally Posted by humptulips
It worked so good in Iraq and then again in Afghanistan. mad


Remember the last words of the radio transmission from Thomas Polgar, CIA Station Head, before he boarded one of the last helicopters leaving the Embassy rooftop in Saigon on 4/30/75…..

“ Those who fail to learn from history are forced to repeat it. Let us hope that we will not have another Vietnam experience and that we have learned our lesson. Saigon signing off. “ Afghanistan and Iraq proved that the lesson wasn’t learned.

The US really has no plan as to what a conquered Iran would look like. Like dogs that chase cars….whats their plan if they catch one ?


Tucker Carlson interviewed Ted Cruz and discussed several topics, but one of them was what is the end game with Iran, what might be the consequences? Cruz never had a good answer and mostly squirmed like someone with ants in his pants throughout the interview IMO. I give it to Cruz though for going on and sitting down for two hours with Tucker on a long form interview. Most politicians will not do that.

The interview got pretty heated several times, but I think you are spot on Bigbrownie, Tucker pushed him on it and he had no real answer and actually made a fool of himself IMO.


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Re: Boots on the ground [Re: warrior] #8422269
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Putin must be missing getting Iranian missiles and oil that he offered to help end it, lol.
(two birds with one stone)
I predicted he would, NOKO better step up for him now.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
The US really has no plan as to what a conquered Iran would look like. Like dogs that chase cars….whats their plan if they catch one ?


not our issue.

how could it be worse...currently a deranged, religious fanatic who hopes for martyrdom, preaches hate against America and is pursuing nuclear weapons.

(I'll take our chances that the next guy won't be worse...how COULD he be worse??)

Re: Boots on the ground [Re: white marlin] #8422273
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
The US really has no plan as to what a conquered Iran would look like. Like dogs that chase cars….whats their plan if they catch one ?


not our issue.

how could it be worse...currently a deranged, religious fanatic who hopes for martyrdom, preaches hate against America and is pursuing nuclear weapons.

(I'll take our chances that the next guy won't be worse...how COULD he be worse??)


Well we did back and help set Sadam up Then had 2 wars with him. It's always a good idea to have a compleat plan and one with contingencys. No different than shooting that buck across the canyon and not having a plan Orr way to get to it.

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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
The US really has no plan as to what a conquered Iran would look like. Like dogs that chase cars….whats their plan if they catch one ?


not our issue.



Anyone remember GWB landing on an aircraft carrier, all decked out in a flight suit? A huge banner was displayed…..Mission Accomplished. US forces were able to defeat Iraq’s standing military, but didn’t have a clue about what to do with the insurgency that would soon follow.

You break it, you bought it.
Iraq was like a big dangerous zoo, with all kinds of wild animals. But it had a zookeeper, Saddam Hussein. We killed the zookeeper, without thinking about the animals that would soon be out of their cages. Chaos was the result, and US Marines would have to go door to door in Fallujah looking for the animals.

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hateful, threatening madman with a nuke.

still waiting to hear what's worse...

Re: Boots on the ground [Re: white marlin] #8422494
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Originally Posted by white marlin
hateful, threatening madman with a nuke.

still waiting to hear what's worse...

Another madman with a nuke. There's plenty of those types over there willing to fill that role.

By the way, Iran has been "days away" from nuke for like 30 years. Surely it's right this time, though

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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by white marlin
hateful, threatening madman with a nuke.

still waiting to hear what's worse...

Another madman with a nuke. There's plenty of those types over there willing to fill that role


that's not worse.

it's the same.

only they wouldn't have the nuke.

that's better.

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Re: Boots on the ground [Re: white marlin] #8422503
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Originally Posted by white marlin
hateful, threatening madman with a nuke.

still waiting to hear what's worse...



How about a man that does not have a nuke and is claimed to. Is he a bad guy by my standard from what I have been told yes.

BUT don't be a blind follower. 911 HAD NOTHING TO do with Iraq but that's the first place we went. We het lied to over and over. Claimed the news is all fake and controlled but now Are you going to believe what your being told 100% . Now the new is honest this time it's different because it's my team and what I want to hear and have been spoon feed for years.

I think the guy could be taken out and it seems like a good move from the current info and story being feed. That alone tells me to slow down and ask some serious questions and look back at history.


Now I'm sure the mentality limited will think I'm now pro Iran or anti Israeli. Always stuck in the A vs B Narrative. And that not true. Just pays to slow down and think and you may see that c is pulling the strings to get d accomplished.

There is always much more to it than we are being told. TAKE THEM OUT ok maybe/likely a good idea.. But have long term plans with contingencys.

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plans do not always pan out. ("Best laid plans of mice and men", etc.)

there are no guarantees in Life (except death and taxes).

think it through, pray on it and make the best decision that you can.

Re: Boots on the ground [Re: white marlin] #8422519
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Originally Posted by white marlin
plans do not always pan out. ("Best laid plans of mice and men", etc.)

there are no guarantees in Life (except death and taxes).

think it through, pray on it and make the best decision that you can.



Well, when every plan since the Gulf of Tonkin fails miserably maybe it's time to quit planning?


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