So my brother just told me about a little deal that's been goin on... apparently one of the folks down the road has taken a bit of issue with his gardening style . Like I've said before he's into permaculture instead of traditional gardening. So Instead of neat organized picture perfect rows of plants , constant weeding ,tilling ect.....yeah his looks like over grown mess of random plants. But everything he plants plays on or with something else , sonin the same space most grow say a tomato he's growing clover , peanuts,mammoth sunflowers, cucumber, collard AND a tomato. One fixes nitrogen while one works as living mulch then another helps with moisture conservation ect.I mean the kid has gotten really deep on it .... Anyhow guy down the road has a traditional garden and he'll come by every so often to give him an updates and kinda gloat and tell him how he should do his garden like his....to which my brother will give him an update on his which is usually 2x his with usually less work , to which ole dude guess upset and storms off for a week or so. Asked him why didn't he just ..you know tell him to get lost but apparently bro finds it kinda funny that and he thinks he's one of those grumpy types who doesn't really know how to be friendly and think he might just enjoy coming over to talk ...maybe ....said this time he put a bucket full of cucumbers in the back of his truck when he was going on about something, said was about 6lbs of extras he was gonna compost but figured he could use them more

Glad it’s working for him! I’ve yet to see anyone do one of those “permaculture” gardens that can beat a conventional garden around here. But i think it is because everyone I know doing a “permaculture garden” has no idea what they are doing and just says permaculture to make up for not weeding or fertilizing their stuff. I’m real interested in all of the regenerative/permaculture planting styles

I think it's more companion planting and packing things right. Less weeds and the soil doesn't dry out as much. It works.

Yeah most people who do them don't really do them properly, like folks think there a push button for easy peasy and just think they can toss stuff together and it works....yeahhhhhh no . I mean this kid has mapped out the sun stages around the property, done soil samples , there is a decent bit of work to it ...just not in the same way as a regular garden .

It's like regular fishing Vs a trotline. Yeah trot lines look really easy and should just work...till you get billy joe trying it with a $20 kit from Walmart might catch some but your not gonna be as good and fast as somone like Matt Jones who knows the ins and out of the fish water , hooks lines bait ect.... In that case might just wanna stick to the pole and line lol !

Then there's also the deal of things being apples to apples you know a 2acre trad garden will probably out produce a 1/4 acre permaculture one just due to...well volume.

Don't help my brother does stuff that is like a completely foreign concept to many around here . Like compost, no one round here composts . When we would push up the leftovers from the hay bales in a big pile in the pasture eveyone was beyond confused why we didn't just burn it . Told them we're making garden dirt and they would roll there eyes and say no you just buy that from the store ! For a lot of rad gardeners in other places that's just normal down here it's more of an edge . heck a good bit of his success it just not being super rigid which is planting practices. Most around here will set up a plot and that's where everything has to go regardless of what that plant likes. Him ? " O it stays wet and gross over there... Egh cucumbers like that I'll toss some there .

I mean yeah that's a large part of it ..I wanna plant this thing what can I plant with it that will help it out some way ..but you can go farrrr into the deep end where your using chickens and ducks as pest control, pigs for tilling , putting up bird houses to attract these certain birds hat love eating this type of bug, digging/build swales to help the ground contain more water .. heck I've seen I go as far as using large rocks in dry areas to help collect condensation that will then get transferred to the soil ( which comes from some farming traditions in arid places in the middle east and Africa). Stuff gets kinda nuts after a while , but he loves it and would probably get bored of a regular garden pretty quick so

Great for him

kill them with kindness , load them up on Zukes and other produce , in a couple years the old guy might be trying the kid ways