Re: Supreme Court
[Re: corky]
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Jackson is an activist, not a Justice imo.
Kudos to Barrett
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Re: Supreme Court
[Re: corky]
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06/27/25 02:30 PM
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I agree with the ruling, but this opens the door to abusing individual rights. I always remember the strategy of McCain/ Feingold.
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Re: Supreme Court
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Jackson is an activist, not a Justice imo.
Kudos to Barrett Jackson is a national embarrassment. Well, you know, hire the handicapped they say…….. Osky
www.SureDockusa.com“ I said I don’t have much use for traps these days, never said I didn’t know how to use them.”
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Re: Supreme Court
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Jackson isn't even fun to watch
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: Supreme Court
[Re: corky]
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The difference between a God and a Supreme Court Justice is God doesn’t think he’s a Judge is an old Fed saying.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Supreme Court
[Re: corky]
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The Supreme Court just ruled limiting nationwide injunctions by district judges. Major victory for the Administration on items of national importance. I'm wondering if it will affect the future rulings on trapping. For example, will it hinder judge shopping where a California based District Judge restricts trapping of wolves in the Great Lakes States? I hope so. It is ridiculous for a judge from a different state that has no problem with wolves to be able to regulate and restrict the taking of wolves in a state that does have a problem.
We are living in a world where the intelligent must be quiet so that the no common sense people won't be offended.
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Re: Supreme Court
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There goes the 9th circuit side money from whoever needed court intervention.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Supreme Court
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I agree with the ruling, but this opens the door to abusing individual rights. I always remember the strategy of McCain/ Feingold. We will see what happens when a president takes office and put out an executive order banning guns. Then what? It only takes one crazy fool to make things very interesting.
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Re: Supreme Court
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I agree with the ruling, but this opens the door to abusing individual rights. I always remember the strategy of McCain/ Feingold. We will see what happens when a president takes office and put out an executive order banning guns. Then what? It only takes one crazy fool to make things very interesting. That's clearly a constitutional violation and would fall into the courts purview.
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Re: Supreme Court
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Stated she was against and imperialist legislature. Guess she has no problem with an imperialist judiciary. A true national embarrassment. An activist with with a black robe.
How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
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Re: Supreme Court
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06/28/25 07:03 PM
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I agree with the ruling, but this opens the door to abusing individual rights. I always remember the strategy of McCain/ Feingold. We will see what happens when a president takes office and put out an executive order banning guns. Then what? It only takes one crazy fool to make things very interesting. Just like banning bump stocks. You won't be able to buy a gun in certain districts until the Supremes rule on it. So people in certain areas will have their rights violated until this works it's way to the Supreme court. This is the problem IMHO with trying to deal with nationwide policy one district at a time. However, it will feed a lot of lawyers.
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Re: Supreme Court
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I hope Soros is having a really wonerful meltdown. the only thing better would be for me to be the one to evacuate his cranium. along with all of his concubines....... So much peace and love
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Re: Supreme Court
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We will see what happens when a president takes office and put out an executive order banning guns. Then what? It only takes one crazy fool to make things very interesting.
Just like banning bump stocks. You won't be able to buy a gun in certain districts until the Supremes rule on it. So people in certain areas will have their rights violated until this works it's way to the Supreme court. This is the problem IMHO with trying to deal with nationwide policy one district at a time. However, it will feed a lot of lawyers. Maybe, but it creates a disparity that demands resolution that the Supremes can't just ignore. The other option is one district violating the rights of all and that can be ignored since all are getting screwed equally.
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Re: Supreme Court
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The courts are not determining the outcome. The courts are stopping an action, not producing an action. They are not screwing anybody that is not already being screwed.
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Re: Supreme Court
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I hope Soros is having a really wonerful meltdown. the only thing better would be for me to be the one to evacuate his cranium. along with all of his concubines....... So much peace and love Too nice for that person.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: Supreme Court
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So the law of the land according to a former supreme court is that the Constitution says: The Fourteenth Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside" , which has been interpreted to grant birthright citizenship to most individuals born in the U.S. President takes an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. Then he E.O.s this right gone.  How do you deal with this? I don't know?
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Re: Supreme Court
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Oh I didn’t realize talking about murdering people was allowed as long as it’s people you don’t like. My bad He deserves it. The world would be a better place.
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Re: Supreme Court
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So the law of the land according to a former supreme court is that the Constitution says: The Fourteenth Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside" , which has been interpreted to grant birthright citizenship to most individuals born in the U.S. President takes an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. Then he E.O.s this right gone.  How do you deal with this? I don't know? Wasn't this debated by congress that it was not for people coming in to the country but for slaves children?
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Re: Supreme Court
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Maybe? The Supreme court has made a ruling. It is the law. People can challenge the law. I'm not sure a President can violate the law to challenge it?
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Re: Supreme Court
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So the law of the land according to a former supreme court is that the Constitution says: The Fourteenth Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside" , which has been interpreted to grant birthright citizenship to most individuals born in the U.S. President takes an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. Then he E.O.s this right gone.  How do you deal with this? I don't know? every Representative and Senator swears a similar Oath to the Constitution...
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Re: Supreme Court
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Maybe? The Supreme court has made a ruling. It is the law. People can challenge the law. I'm not sure a President can violate the law to challenge it? "John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it" President Andrew Jackson And Jackson most certainly did violate it. Marshall ruled the the Cherokee most certainly had the right to sue and keep their land, Jackson sent them to Oklahoma anyway. SCOTUS, by design has ZERO enforcement power. Instead they rely solely upon the coequal branches either complying or not with recourse to impeachment as the corrective measure.
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Re: Supreme Court
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06/29/25 03:11 PM
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Nobody is ignoring that. They are in the U.S. and subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. This has been decided by a former Supreme court.
The court cannot impeach Presidents. Congress can, but won't while the President's party is in charge.
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Re: Supreme Court
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We know what the "intent" of the 14th was, its just a matter of ........can the liberal lawyers convince the Justices otherwise.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: Supreme Court
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"The Supreme Court has historically interpreted the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" in the context of birthright citizenship to mean that individuals born in the United States are automatically citizens, provided they are not born to foreign diplomats or other individuals who are not subject to U.S. laws. This interpretation was solidified in the landmark case United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), where the Court ruled that a child born in San Francisco to Chinese immigrant parents was a U.S. citizen under the Fourteenth Amendment, as his parents were not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under a foreign government.
This interpretation aligns with the common law principle of jus soli (citizenship based on place of birth), which was intended to be enshrined in the Fourteenth Amendment to ensure broad and inclusive citizenship rights."
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Re: Supreme Court
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When there's big cases coming out I watch the live chat on https://www.scotusblog.com/They have reporters in the room typing info about the rulings as they come out. From their reporters, I usually have good understanding of the ruling before the main media gets around to putting up a breaking news banner on their site. Members of the public can also post comments (there's a lot of moderation, they only let some comments from the public through). When the injuction ruling came out last week, one of the public comments was expressing surprise the the supreme court would strike down an injection on an executive order that is so clearly unconstitional. One of scotusblog's moderators repsonded to the comment saying he would not assume the executive order is unconstitutional, and that it would be back before the court. I don't know what way the court will rule on it. But I do believe there's a non-zero change that it stands. The only thing that would surprise is a 9-0 ruling.
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Re: Supreme Court
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The supreme court did not strike down the injunctions in total. The injunctions only apply to those courts' districts.
"Trump's policy remains blocked in the following states:
Arizona California Colorado Connecticut Delaware Hawaii Illinois Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Nevada New Jersey New Mexico New York North Carolina Oregon Rhode Island Vermont Washington Wisconsin In the remaining states, Trump's order can go into effect 30 days after Friday's ruling, pending any further legal action. That order limits birthright citizenship to those who are U.S. citizens or in the country with legal permanent residency, excluding those on visitor and temporary visas, as well as undocumented immigrants."
Newsweek?
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