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Re: AR10 trash Build [Re: hippie] #8430528
07/03/25 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by hippie
How do you like that powder dispenser?

I'm still using beam scales and its a little slow when doing 50 or so rounds at a clip.


I like it a lot ! That being said it can have a tendency to "float " if you leave your charge on the scale for more then say 10min but re calibrating takes less then a minute not going to lie don't know how much faster it is vs a powder dispenser. Timed it last night and takes right at 20sec to drop and trickle 24.2 GR of ramshot exterminator. Think it was 25min for 45 rounds total . Seen guys who can throw 100 chargers in 2min flat and shoot , shoot big holes and have S-D in the single digits, but it's always been a big failure when I try .... Don't have the rhythm I guess .

Really need to get one of those older ohus beam scales to have when this thing finally kicks the bucket lol laugh


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Re: AR10 trash Build [Re: Wolfdog91] #8430582
07/04/25 06:29 AM
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I use a scoop now onto the beam and then trickle it up to level then I set it on a distal scale to double check the weight.

If that takes almost a second per grain, it's be way to slow when most my loads are 80-100 grain.

I guess I could scoop onto it and let it tickle it up, then set it on my beam for the confirm check.

Thanks.


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Re: AR10 trash Build [Re: Wolfdog91] #8430587
07/04/25 06:46 AM
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I have an AR. Its fun to shoot. When I load ammo it takes awhile. Use a beam and manual trickler. Takes awhile but works ok. I have a weakness for wood stocked bolt actions.


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Re: AR10 trash Build [Re: Wolfdog91] #8431141
07/05/25 12:32 PM
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Welp Dad just called , hes bring his over later for me to zero . DPMS .308 he dropped like $1300 on . See how it will compare


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Re: AR10 trash Build [Re: Wolfdog91] #8431142
07/05/25 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Welp Dad just called , hes bring his over later for me to zero . DPMS .308 he dropped like $1300 on . See how it will compare

The caring thing to do would b teach him how to sight in a gun

Re: AR10 trash Build [Re: Wolfdog91] #8431433
07/05/25 10:28 PM
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Welp Dad brought his out . DPMS .308 with a 3-9 HAWKE . Really bare bones which admittedly it's more my old man style he always gives me "that" look at my stuff....but always seems really happy after shooting mine crazy grin but his hunting style is ,walk around in a big look till something is dumb enough to stand still so more bare bones and light weight works better from him vs my more ..."gamed out " set up. ... But he was talking a little smack about how he spent $1300 on a QUALITY DPMS so whistle
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Also not gonna lie....this is a nice little 3-9 cool
O and finally got him to come to the 21st century and put on some dang hearing protection
cool got him a pair of electric walkers muffs that he cussed and nodded about ...but now he wears them constantly grin was a bit of a fight to get him to use any type of support to zero thought badgered him into using a front bag but the whole rear bag thing was a no go
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Honestly I'm just gonna chalk this up to him buying the cheapest SP he could find
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But hay he was tickled pink he could constantly slap my Gopher target around at one hundred..... Can't say the same about the 4" gong but 1 outta four made him smile.... Told him no head shots till I work him up a load though.
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I (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) it a few times and it's definitely usable...but yeah I see what alot of them AR guys are talking about not a big fan of shooting it , call me a wuss but I'll stick to my man bun sub 30 cals
laugh just really really snappy

Well after all that I brought mine out loaded it up and told him to just point at what he wants gone yeah ended up going 5 for 5 laugh was spotting him and he was just dropping bullets on the same impacts on the steel for giggles .
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.and was smiling like a 5yr old till he remembered I was there and went back to acting like he don't like it . Just said "yeah it's really smooth " then proceeded to go around The moon asking whats something he could get like a 6.5 creedmore.....that's not a 6.5 creedmore ( he's always been a dyed in the whole traditional caliber guy .223, .308, 12ga .22lr though.....he's like the low recoil small frame stuff more and more especially since I built him that 6mm ARC )

He said he kinda wants me to make him one up in .243 now but he's still not sure about that "6.5 cre whatever"
grin I do end up digging around and finding a mag pull stock for him though...$1300 bones and they still just give you a milspec M4 stock sick


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Re: AR10 trash Build [Re: Wolfdog91] #8431638
07/06/25 12:15 PM
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Hippie,
I think a good beam scale is probably more accurate than most of the digitals. But I have the RCBS powder dispenser and scale. It dumps the powder pretty fast until it gets to the last couple grains, then trickles that in. So it doesn't take much longer to dispense 80 grains of powder for my STW than it does for my 218 Bee. All the time is in trickling those last couple grains.

I've been wanting to get/build an AR10, had thought about a 260 since i have a bolt gun in that caliber (Wolfie, if your dad really wants something similar to a 6.5 Creed that isn't a Creed, can't get much closer than the 260, basically ballistic twins) but would probably end up going with a 308. PSA you can buy one ready to go cheaper than you can build one and they have a real good rep. I have shot a friends DPMS some, very heavy, big bull barrel on it, less recoil in a 308 and then in some 223 I have shot, sub MOA, usually around 3/4 MOA with the cheapest bulk ammo he could buy. But I've put a couple hundred rounds through it on a couple of occasions, and it jams about every third or fourth round. I would have to have one that would feed reliably, and from what I've heard a lot of AR10s are a bit finicky that way.

Re: AR10 trash Build [Re: bearcat2] #8432322
07/07/25 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
Hippie,
I think a good beam scale is probably more accurate than most of the digitals. But I have the RCBS powder dispenser and scale. It dumps the powder pretty fast until it gets to the last couple grains, then trickles that in. So it doesn't take much longer to dispense 80 grains of powder for my STW than it does for my 218 Bee. All the time is in trickling those last couple grains.

I've been wanting to get/build an AR10, had thought about a 260 since i have a bolt gun in that caliber (Wolfie, if your dad really wants something similar to a 6.5 Creed that isn't a Creed, can't get much closer than the 260, basically ballistic twins) but would probably end up going with a 308. PSA you can buy one ready to go cheaper than you can build one and they have a real good rep. I have shot a friends DPMS some, very heavy, big bull barrel on it, less recoil in a 308 and then in some 223 I have shot, sub MOA, usually around 3/4 MOA with the cheapest bulk ammo he could buy. But I've put a couple hundred rounds through it on a couple of occasions, and it jams about every third or fourth round. I would have to have one that would feed reliably, and from what I've heard a lot of AR10s are a bit finicky that way.


Yeah told him about the .260 but eghhhh he didn't quite seem to like the whole ammo availability of it. I still have a hard time getting his deal with the creed . Funny enough was driving with him today, was pretty quiet then just toutt nowhere blurts out : " you know that 6.5 doesn't hurt mess with my should half as bad , and ammonia about the same price and they have it every where ...."

And went back to being quiet . laugh


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Re: AR10 trash Build [Re: Wolfdog91] #8432327
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You need to put brakes on those critters if recoil is a problem.

I couldn't believe how they tamed down these ultra magnums .


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Re: AR10 trash Build [Re: Wolfdog91] #8433268
07/09/25 07:45 PM
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Welp took er out to 380 which is about as far as I can stretch out right now to try and test out my dope and yeah I need to get off the bench and back on the ground like I used too first round was like a target high and second broke the chain.... I really need to get some of that old fire hose stuff folks keep telling me about
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Then I just kinda sat there and blew for a few more rounds trying to get a side hit , really need to get better at this if I have any chance of taking game at this distance. Was talking to some friends out west and they were giving me a bit of a hard time , said 400yd is a chip shot for most of them ...but theyll sit over a prairie dog town and burn though 100rd in a afternoon grin

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Re: AR10 trash Build [Re: hippie] #8433271
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Originally Posted by hippie
You need to put brakes on those critters if recoil is a problem.

I couldn't believe how they tamed down these ultra magnums .

Gotta ask how often do you get problems with breaks making the gun not wanna shoot ? I've never really messed with them too much but one of my projects seems to shot better without one...but I'm not sure quite yet..got one on my .223wylde SPR that makes it feel like nothing and I love it though


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Re: AR10 trash Build [Re: Wolfdog91] #8433336
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How big is that plate ?looking at a....8" group there ?


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Re: AR10 trash Build [Re: Wolfdog91] #8433338
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Plate is 18" last three shot are 5". The wind was giving this beginning problems. In the time I was shooting it went from 5 o'clock to 8 o'clock and back to 4 o'clock. I bet it was was over 30" of horizontal and i wasn't keeping up. Ran out of ammo by the time I felt i was figuring it out. Kept 3 of the last four on the plate.

Next time I try it im definitely going to put something up for wind flags.

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Re: AR10 trash Build [Re: Yes sir] #8433347
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Plate is 18" last three shot are 5". The wind was giving this beginning problems. In the time I was shooting it went from 5 o'clock to 8 o'clock and back to 4 o'clock. I bet it was was over 30" of horizontal and i wasn't keeping up. Ran out of ammo by the time I felt i was figuring it out. Kept 3 of the last four on the plate.

Next time I try it im definitely going to put something up for wind flags.


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Re: AR10 trash Build [Re: Yes sir] #8433373
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Took mine out to a thousand for the first time this past Sunday
Man was it fun


Decent work for its first journey to 1000.


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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Originally Posted by hippie
You need to put brakes on those critters if recoil is a problem.

I couldn't believe how they tamed down these ultra magnums .

Gotta ask how often do you get problems with breaks making the gun not wanna shoot ? I've never really messed with them too much but one of my projects seems to shot better without one...but I'm not sure quite yet..got one on my .223wylde SPR that makes it feel like nothing and I love it though


I've put 5 on so far and can't say they've hurt the accuracy, but to be honest, I put them on when the barrel was new so I don't have non braked shots thru these barrels.

I really need to shoot some groups at paper @100yds to see what for groups these will do. We (White Marlin and I) pretty much just shoot between 500 and 1000 yards at steel, occasionally shooting groups at paper @500 and @1000.


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