Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

Romans 3 - 9 What then? Are we Jews[a] any better off?[b] No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, 10 as it is written:

“None is righteous, no, not one;
11 no one understands;
no one seeks for God.
12 All have turned aside; together they have become worthless;
no one does good,


So though some may say they only know 4 good people - scripture tells us no one does good......does this mean we can't do good things, no, this means all are sinners and need redeemed. Of which, Jesus Christ paid the price. Pride will keep many from redemption.

I'm curious, what dous black and white have to do with shared values.

Is your head under your pillow?

When you go to the “bad” part of a city, what color are the people who live there?

FWIW I judge people by their character. I am not blind though. There is a culture of criminals in our society. About half are people who make up 12 percent of the population.

I agree.

I think you know enough about the Bible to know what it says about this. No matter how good we are on this Earth we can't make our own way to heaven. The best people you know are sinners, we all are, it's human sin nature.

We only get to Heaven because Jesus died for our sins. That's it, that's the gift. If a person lives their whole life aware of that gift and chooses not to accept it then yes, I don't believe they will make it to heaven.

Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Yes, because religion by today's standard is very cultish.
Man tries to make God in his own image, then the Coolaid parties begin.

Truth can be found if one seeks it. Just like trapping, the best way to find sign is go look for it yourself, not on the internet.

As far as hypocrites, how many on here "know" what it takes to be a great parent or great spouse but fall short, then call a Christian a hypocrite when they fall short....???

Unless you have followed ur moral compas perfectly your whole life its probably the pot calling the kettle black if u call a Christian a hypocrite who failed. Like every group of people there's the good and the bad so to speak

Romans 2:14

“For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:”

I take the above verse to mean that if a person has never heard of Jesus (maybe no radio or tv on a remote island) then they will be judged by whether they have lived in harmony with the things of God.
I had a guy to tell me that its my job to see that everyone had heard of Jesus or they will go to the bad place. So I guess its my fault since I never witnessed to that person.
To think that a person would go to the bad place because he had never heard the gospel and thus couldn't accept it for lack of knowledge, seems far fetched and would make God unjust, since they had never heard the gospel ?

I'm thinking its more danger to be in a high spot in the congregation and having the lack of knowledge would fulfill "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. Hosea 4:6

I am as a big a hypocrite as any human. I just don’t think a perfect parent would set one of their kids on fire. I don’t believe stories from ancient tribesmen of a worldwide flood, people turning into salt, getting ate by a giant fish and living in it for three days.

I've asked that question to many different preachers and priests. Not one can answer it.
" I created you to worship me or burn in a place 7 times hotter than fire for eternity" or something to that effect.
All they said was to just believe, and to that I say...."get bent"
I'm religious.....to a certain extent, but I won't go around collecting believers and donations with that friggin line.

I dont understand the power and technology that let's someone on the other side of the world talk to me in real time but that doesn't mean its not real

I am not a preacher.

but as *I* understand it...

God is Holy. He is Light.

Darkness and Light cannot exist in the same place and time.

He created us in a Holy state, but gave us Free Will. We chose to embrace Darkness.

From that point on, we lived in Darkness.

Blood sacrifices (animals) paid our debt (until we sinned again); before Jesus died on the cross.

But He loved us enough to provide a Permanent "Fix" for our sinful nature...the blood of a PERFECT Sacrifice, His son, Jesus Christ.

What religion did your ancestors abandon?

Shakey,
I don't believe in eternal torment.
At least not in the form of burning for ever.

Trapper7 …I’m of French Irish ancestry so they would have practiced paganism

And what does paganism believe?

Multiple gods

O my gosh, an Irish Freshman. That explains alot.

What is the source of their information?