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Re: Epstein Thread.... [Re: Pike River] #8444385
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Originally Posted by Pike River
As far as inheritance.......many boomers (understandbly) are using all their funds in their older years and will die nearly penniless. This leaves little to nothing to their grandkids education. I say education because it seemed that when the greatest generation was passing away, their kids used it to finish the mortgage and fund our education.



I don't know what Boomers you know but none that I know are doing that. And I know a lot.

Most, like me, have their homes paid for, nice nest eggs and good insurance. Between me and my wife, our kids will be dividing up a substantial amount when we go.


Eh...wot?

Re: Epstein Thread.... [Re: Chancey] #8444405
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not anti boomer or full of boomer hate

As stated earlier, it’s about government debt


During the 2008 GFC, had the government’s around the world not bailed out all the banks,,,,,

The system would of reset(in a painfully necessary way),,, instead,,,,,,the government kicked the can down the road,,,,,,penalizing future generations

boomers retirement would of looked drastically different,,,,,,,

It’s the Keynesian vs Austrian economics debate, that we are seeing play out currently around the world

And is going to come to a very spectacular/painful head sometime in the not to distant future

Re: Epstein Thread.... [Re: Chancey] #8444427
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Everything is good until you need a nursing home, then kiss it all goodbye ....

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Everything is good until you need a nursing home, then kiss it all goodbye ....


There are alternatives to nursing homes. The most common being in-home care which is covered by most decent health insurance coverages.

I don't see myself ever being confined to a nursing home and I sure don't intend to squander my kids' inheritance on one.


Eh...wot?

Re: Epstein Thread.... [Re: spjones] #8444447
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Originally Posted by spjones
not anti boomer or full of boomer hate

As stated earlier, it’s about government debt


During the 2008 GFC, had the government’s around the world not bailed out all the banks,,,,,

The system would of reset(in a painfully necessary way),,, instead,,,,,,the government kicked the can down the road,,,,,,penalizing future generations

boomers retirement would of looked drastically different,,,,,,,

It’s the Keynesian vs Austrian economics debate, that we are seeing play out currently around the world

And is going to come to a very spectacular/painful head sometime in the not to distant future



Awwww good insight to your BTC posts. Always wonder what’s driving force for individuals

Re: Epstein Thread.... [Re: Lugnut] #8444451
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Originally Posted by Pike River
As far as inheritance.......many boomers (understandbly) are using all their funds in their older years and will die nearly penniless. This leaves little to nothing to their grandkids education. I say education because it seemed that when the greatest generation was passing away, their kids used it to finish the mortgage and fund our education.



I don't know what Boomers you know but none that I know are doing that. And I know a lot.

Most, like me, have their homes paid for, nice nest eggs and good insurance. Between me and my wife, our kids will be dividing up a substantial amount when we go.


None you know won't have enough money in their golden years?

You must run with the upper echelon.


"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
Re: Epstein Thread.... [Re: Chancey] #8444453
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What ha[[ened to the thread some found out the guy we all voted for really has a problem keeping his word.

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Re: Epstein Thread.... [Re: Chancey] #8444454
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Not "upper echelon" at all. just a bunch of hard-working middle-class guys and gals that spent their monies wisely, invested and saved what they could. Most of us are already in our "golden years."


Eh...wot?

Re: Epstein Thread.... [Re: Chancey] #8444456
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I know a few that never got out of party-hearty mode but they are a small minority of my friends and acquaintances.


Eh...wot?

Re: Epstein Thread.... [Re: Lugnut] #8444461
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Not "upper echelon" at all. just a bunch of hard-working middle-class guys and gals that spent their monies wisely, invested and saved what they could. Most of us are already in our "golden years."

Accounting for compounded inflation, Baby Boomers will not be leaving more behind than the Greatest Generation.

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Median retirement savings from 65 to 74 is 200k. That means half of the population has that much or less even, half

Is that enough money?

The numbers are what they are. I would venture to guess half the people in my age group or higher is in that same predicament


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Originally Posted by Pike River
Originally Posted by Lugnut
Not "upper echelon" at all. just a bunch of hard-working middle-class guys and gals that spent their monies wisely, invested and saved what they could. Most of us are already in our "golden years."

Accounting for compounded inflation, Baby Boomers will not be leaving more behind than the Greatest Generation.

I don't agree

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Originally Posted by Pike River
Originally Posted by Lugnut
Not "upper echelon" at all. just a bunch of hard-working middle-class guys and gals that spent their monies wisely, invested and saved what they could. Most of us are already in our "golden years."

Accounting for compounded inflation, Baby Boomers will not be leaving more behind than the Greatest Generation.


Even if that's true it's okay. I never considered it a competition between me and the generations that came before me.


Eh...wot?

Re: Epstein Thread.... [Re: Steven 49er] #8444476
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Median retirement savings from 65 to 74 is 200k. That means half of the population has that much or less even, half

Is that enough money?

The numbers are what they are. I would venture to guess half the people in my age group or higher is in that same predicament


I guess that depends on the lifestyle you want to lead. For me, it would be enough. I've been told I'm very frugal in less polite words than those. grin


Eh...wot?

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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Originally Posted by Pike River

Accounting for compounded inflation, Baby Boomers will not be leaving more behind than the Greatest Generation.


Even if that's true it's okay. I never considered it a competition between me and the generations that came before me.

Its not a competition with the previous generation. As Americans we should all strive to build generational wealth so that we continue to become stronger as a nation.

Re: Epstein Thread.... [Re: Rat Masterson] #8444575
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
I disagree with you old farts.

I believe it's harder these days but I do agree that it was always hard


The boomers and early Gen xers have made unfunded promises to themselves that the kids are going to have to pay for

I won't blame them if they tell us to pound sand.


When I got out of school in 73 there were no jobs, unless you knew someone. Hasn't been like that since then.


Yes it has, in the early 80’s, construction jobs were scarce as hens teeth. I went from $12.00 to $7.00 overnight to keep working

Re: Epstein Thread.... [Re: Chancey] #8444584
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People today have more than they ever had.

Every generation, starting with those born in the '30's have had more than the one before.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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People today have more than they ever had.

Every generation, starting with those born in the '30's have had more than the one before.

So very true!!!! This is why I can’t buy into the “woe is me, we’re doomed” rhetoric.

Re: Epstein Thread.... [Re: Lugnut] #8444703
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Median retirement savings from 65 to 74 is 200k. That means half of the population has that much or less even, half

Is that enough money?

The numbers are what they are. I would venture to guess half the people in my age group or higher is in that same predicament


I guess that depends on the lifestyle you want to lead. For me, it would be enough. I've been told I'm very frugal in less polite words than those. grin



200,000 is enough to rely on for a retirement savings?

I thought we were having a serious conversation.

I don't care how cheap one is you can't run from taxes, insurance and compounding inflation.


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I guess if your relying 100% on that $200,000 then things could get tight.

But I assumed you meant folks with additional sources of income like almost all do. I mean who doesn't collect SS benefits? Every retiree I know does. Granted it isn't always that much, I think the national average is around $2,000.00 a month. Even that small amount will buy you groceries and pay most of your bills assuming you no longer have a mortgage.

Most of the folks I know have earned a bigger monthly benefit, some collecting near the max which is currently around $4,000.00 a month.

Then there's pensions.

Then there's dividends from investments.

Who lives entirely on just their savings? Nobody that I know.

I too thought we were having a "serious" discussion.


Eh...wot?

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