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This thread has truly opened my eyes to the selfishness of some men. Men that have taken vows and promised their bride they would be there for her. Now, some saying divorce is the best thing done in their life. Many profess to be be Christ followers but in trials and tribulations spout out to get the best lawyer they can afford and are driven on material possessions. It truly saddens me to know that so many men have not loved their brides even in the dark times and learned to fight on their knees and allow the Lord to lead them to love their brides even when they don't deserve it. See, I don't deserve it. I am a dirty rotten lying adulterer at heart but only by the blood of Jesus have I been forgiven and learned to love. Love without limitations. Love without being hung up on material possessions and thinking I am owed this or that. I can't control my next heartbeat - but I can try and exert self control and show love to even those that offend, ridicule, and dismiss. Most of you are right - I have no idea what you are going through. But I do know - there is no justification that will ever make it right. Jesus even spoke on it due to the hardening of your hearts. I pray some of you men allow God to soften your hearts so you can allow the love of Christ to overwhelm you and you have the ability to love others unconditionally.
Hmmmm........ever hear "Love Your Neighbor ?"
......Blessed are the meek (humble), for they shall inherit the earth.
Matthew 7 : 4-5 Or how can you say to your brother, "'let me take the speck out of your eye', when there is a log in your own eye ?
Seems to me, you're walking a bit proud and self righteous !
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Re: Wife and I are Divorcing-Questions
[Re: 330-Trapper]
#8445629 07/30/2502:17 PM07/30/2502:17 PM
:God forgave the murderer he can and would forgive me even if I re- married.
Did he forgive King David? Who sent a woman's husband to be killed on the front lines.
How about concubines? How about Saul How about Abraham and Sarah's handmaiden?
Im only human - Not married to a submissive woman
You cannot pretend to understand my situation" Scott
David repented, and God forgave him but still took the life of his child. God punished Moses, too, who was forbidden from entering the Promised Land.
God forgives those who repent, and often penance is still demanded.
You were brought up Protestant and perhaps your divorce is justified on biblical grounds, according to the belief system of your upbringing. I don't know your situation and it's none of my business if you don't want to share. If the one who initiates the divorce goes on to remarry, though, that doesn't look much to me like repentance.
Re: Wife and I are Divorcing-Questions
[Re: 330-Trapper]
#8445653 07/30/2503:04 PM07/30/2503:04 PM
Going through some bad times here now too. I have one divorce in my past and that was for the best for both of us. Now my wife (2nd) is going through menopause and refuses to do any thing or hardly ackknowlegdes it, it's my fault I'm told. I have enough with this medical, I'm terminal with End Stage Kidney Failure. I have to do life support in the evenings, dialysis, I'm told it's quite common for folks in my condition to get short tempered and ornery so I really try to keep that under control, but when the sceeching mwnopausal banshee comes out it is very trying. and of course it's my fault. We went through this years back with a birth contro she tried, deproprovera (something like that) changed her just like this, ened uop she went back to her folks and in time could see the problem and quit and got to be her old self,which is why we married we really are a good team so neither one wants adivorce but may have to do what wwe did before and she just go back to her folks to realign. The first time wee were not yet married now we have thirty years, two children annd property and such so if needed seperation is way better than divorce, as long as there's no dating or fooling around, then some time apart could heal all Have you considered a seperation for a time, call it trial divorce or trying to recocile either way I think it's worth trying
:God forgave the murderer he can and would forgive me even if I re- married.
Did he forgive King David? Who sent a woman's husband to be killed on the front lines.
How about concubines? How about Saul How about Abraham and Sarah's handmaiden?
Im only human - Not married to a submissive woman
You cannot pretend to understand my situation" Scott
David repented, and God forgave him but still took the life of his child. God punished Moses, too, who was forbidden from entering the Promised Land.
God forgives those who repent, and often penance is still demanded.
You were brought up Protestant and perhaps your divorce is justified on biblical grounds, according to the belief system of your upbringing. I don't know your situation and it's none of my business if you don't want to share. If the one who initiates the divorce goes on to remarry, though, that doesn't look much to me like repentance.
One man one woman
What about the kings With 100 0r more concubines
Abraham gave Sarah a child from Abraham and blessed their Future (Israelis) After he messed around and made His wife s handmaiden pregnant and Abraham sent the Handmaisen and Son away (Palestinians
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Re: Wife and I are Divorcing-Questions
[Re: 330-Trapper]
#8445664 07/30/2503:21 PM07/30/2503:21 PM
This thread has truly opened my eyes to the selfishness of some men. Men that have taken vows and promised their bride they would be there for her. Now, some saying divorce is the best thing done in their life. Many profess to be be Christ followers but in trials and tribulations spout out to get the best lawyer they can afford and are driven on material possessions. It truly saddens me to know that so many men have not loved their brides even in the dark times and learned to fight on their knees and allow the Lord to lead them to love their brides even when they don't deserve it. See, I don't deserve it. I am a dirty rotten lying adulterer at heart but only by the blood of Jesus have I been forgiven and learned to love. Love without limitations. Love without being hung up on material possessions and thinking I am owed this or that. I can't control my next heartbeat - but I can try and exert self control and show love to even those that offend, ridicule, and dismiss. Most of you are right - I have no idea what you are going through. But I do know - there is no justification that will ever make it right. Jesus even spoke on it due to the hardening of your hearts. I pray some of you men allow God to soften your hearts so you can allow the love of Christ to overwhelm you and you have the ability to love others unconditionally.
Hmmmm........ever hear "Love Your Neighbor ?"
That is terrible advice. I tried that once and her husband came home early. I am almost certain he would have killed me if he could have caught me.
I have nothing clever to put here.
Re: Wife and I are Divorcing-Questions
[Re: 330-Trapper]
#8445728 07/30/2504:55 PM07/30/2504:55 PM
Abraham gave Sarah a child from Abraham and blessed their Future (Israelis) After he messed around and made His wife s handmaiden pregnant and Abraham sent the Handmaisen and Son away (Palestinians
King Solomon himself had hundreds of wives to strengthen bonds with foreign lands. After he died, it all fell apart. There's plural marriage in the bible, but generally isn't depicted as working out well.
Plural marriage in our country is illegal, so that's probably not an option for you, anyway.
Sarah is the one who offered up her handmaiden since she thought she was barren. Whether that makes it okay, I'm not qualified to say, but I don't believe it was done out of a place of selfishness.
This thread has truly opened my eyes to the selfishness of some men. Men that have taken vows and promised their bride they would be there for her. Now, some saying divorce is the best thing done in their life. Many profess to be be Christ followers but in trials and tribulations spout out to get the best lawyer they can afford and are driven on material possessions. It truly saddens me to know that so many men have not loved their brides even in the dark times and learned to fight on their knees and allow the Lord to lead them to love their brides even when they don't deserve it. See, I don't deserve it. I am a dirty rotten lying adulterer at heart but only by the blood of Jesus have I been forgiven and learned to love. Love without limitations. Love without being hung up on material possessions and thinking I am owed this or that. I can't control my next heartbeat - but I can try and exert self control and show love to even those that offend, ridicule, and dismiss. Most of you are right - I have no idea what you are going through. But I do know - there is no justification that will ever make it right. Jesus even spoke on it due to the hardening of your hearts. I pray some of you men allow God to soften your hearts so you can allow the love of Christ to overwhelm you and you have the ability to love others unconditionally.
TreedaBlackdog is the Pharisee trying to pretend he is the tax collector in this parable.
"Luke 18:9-14 New International Version The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector 9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’
13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’
14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”"
He's the type of "Christian" that makes decent people despise Christians.
Keith
Re: Wife and I are Divorcing-Questions
[Re: Law Dog]
#8445751 07/30/2505:37 PM07/30/2505:37 PM
This thread has truly opened my eyes to the selfishness of some men. Men that have taken vows and promised their bride they would be there for her. Now, some saying divorce is the best thing done in their life. Many profess to be be Christ followers but in trials and tribulations spout out to get the best lawyer they can afford and are driven on material possessions. It truly saddens me to know that so many men have not loved their brides even in the dark times and learned to fight on their knees and allow the Lord to lead them to love their brides even when they don't deserve it. See, I don't deserve it. I am a dirty rotten lying adulterer at heart but only by the blood of Jesus have I been forgiven and learned to love. Love without limitations. Love without being hung up on material possessions and thinking I am owed this or that. I can't control my next heartbeat - but I can try and exert self control and show love to even those that offend, ridicule, and dismiss. Most of you are right - I have no idea what you are going through. But I do know - there is no justification that will ever make it right. Jesus even spoke on it due to the hardening of your hearts. I pray some of you men allow God to soften your hearts so you can allow the love of Christ to overwhelm you and you have the ability to love others unconditionally.
TreedaBlackdog is the Pharisee in this parable.
"Luke 18:9-14 New International Version The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector 9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’
13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’
14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”"
He's the type of "Christian" that makes decent people despise Christians.
Keith
Be careful Keith. Don’t want him hurting himself climbing off that high horse he is up on.