Link only, language.

https://youtu.be/-pZG7snE7tU?si=3U9k0DV1nCZmPHcj

Lincoln was the cause of food stamp fraud

Dude is a wordsmith!!!

Fortunately, I had a history teacher who LOATHED Lincoln for what he did to Maryland,
( arrested and imprisoned MD legislature so.they couldn't vote to secede. Habeus Corpus? Never heard of it!)
and many, many other tryantical acts.

So my eyes were opened long ago, but this vid takes it to.a whole nother level!

Thanks for posting.

I’m going to have to watch this later tonight…
Lots of folks I talked to get pretty mad when I tell them that for a good while, the south was actually winning.
Had the south had the same resources as the federal army,,, welp the south would have definitely won… Robert e lee was a superior general and a better tactition than grant. Grant just kept throwing men into the meat grinder.

Warrior I don't think I could listen to the podcaster for that long. Cliff notes?

He explores and goes into the whig/republican intent to create an all powerful federal power. Touches on the Jefferson/Hamilton debate. Provides historical content of Madison and the War of 1812. Lays out Lincoln's mentorship by Clay and the National Bank/High Tarriff policy of the Whig/Republican. Presents previous sessession crisis' such as New England in 1812. South Carolina nullification under Jackson.
Completely tosses out the "it was slavery" nonsense. Clearly demonstrates Lincoln's dictatorial actions leading up to and intentional hostile acts to trigger the war as an excuse to run roughshod over all.

BTW, here's a little known youtube hack. You can speed up the playback up to 2x on the web and mobile by clicking on settings. 3x on the pay version.

Youtube videos have pretty much completely replaced car radio and tv for me and since anywhere in Atlanta is at least an hour away I got time for long ones on my daily drive.

My high school western civ teacher was a real piece of work but tended to lay it out warts and all. He would expound on how Lincoln did clearly unconstitutional acts and invaded the south to bring the south back in against their will and in the same breath say that it was all worth it and justified as in his book the ends justified the use of any means at hand. He thought Sherman was brilliant.

BTW, that teacher Joe Dennis started me down the path of hating democrats as he was a card carrying, the pink one, democrat.

…. Good post

… Yankees ruined this country

For all the southern confederacy apologists. Read the articles of secession of the southern states. White supremacy and maintaining the institution of slavery was the mantra for all of them. The failure of the US government to allow the US military to properly finish the job in 1865 and hang all the traitors has caused this country a lot of unnecessary grief that continues today. Sherman should have done multiple marches to the sea. Having spent significant time halfway around the world leading armed patrols in the dead of night where the US American soldier next to you was your brother regardless of his race or ethnicity just it makes it more infuriating to me for some of the racists on this forum to continue to be allowed to spew their slanted viewpoints. The Confederate flag to me, as an American veteran from a military family tracing service back to the revolutionary war, is no different than the Imperial Japanese or Nazi Germany battle flags. I'm quite sure the confederates on this site will continue their slanted version of "the cause". Unfortunately, you can't change a bigot's mind and the constitution which US soldiers defend lets them run their mouths. All I'm saying.

Real Blue Falcon, aren't you?

You might try listening and taking notes of his documented references. Then go read for yourself.

…. Strummed a cord with this high steppin yella lol

… carry on

No need, when he already knows it all.
Vid lays it out pretty clearly using Abe &Co's own words and actions.

But I'm betting someone didn't watch it.

Sic Semper Tyrannis

…. Multiculturalism has been bad for this country

As has public education.

… and the media

....and the Union sympathizers.

Winners write the history. If Lee would have listened to Longstreet....

… or if Stonewall would have survived

But you didn’t learn anything from it .

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS!!!!!

Dang! Reads almost like you were there....the 1860s.

Deo Vindice!

Is this really how you guys feel?

Everything I've ever read indicated Lincolns accomplishments make him arguably one of the best presidents ever.

Yup. Say, ain't Trump a yankee?

History is written by the victors.

In all fairness to Lincoln....he did hold the country together...thru our roughest years.

Trump is a (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) yankee, came down here to live.

… I changed my mind …. We’re much better off now

… thinking about taking a vacation to Atlanta

… I’ve heard it’s nice these days lol

The civil war was never about slavery.
Politicians later made it about slavery.
It was all about making the exports and imports equaled
The south had all the raw materials, and food products to ship out, while the north had mostly only manufactured products.
The government wanted more taxes put on the south , because the north needed more taxes to keep production of finished products going.
Farming has always been the back bone of any country.

You read the approved version. Go dig a little and read what you're not supposed to.

Or better yet. Read the US Constitution, Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers. Do some reading on the Constitutional Convention itself, particularly the concerns and debates of the states. Read Jefferson, Madison, and Adams.

Let that soak in good.

Now consider just how you would resolve things like National Banks. Forget about slavery. Plug in the real fights long before the radical abolitionists got things stirred up. The War of 1812 and the New England States refusal to provide troops and threats of Sessession. Yes, New England actually opposed defense of the nation in the face of a congressional declaration of war. How about Henry Clay vs Andrew Jackson over the National Bank.

Now you should begin to get it. It was never about slavery. It was all about federal power from the beginning.

I won't step into the civil war debate, I've done that enough here. But I agree about public school.

Warrior, are you starting to see the Elephant in the Room? If so, I am proud of you.

It ain't a jew in the woodpile, if that's what you're asking. Israelites ain't got a monopoly on power grabbing.

Warrior, I encourage you to continue taking one red pill at a time. The whole bottle would be better; it won't kill you, but rather wreck your foundation and in the end make you stronger.

I encourage you to take your own advice and "go dig a little deeper" and find out just who and what started the Whig Party? Who was involved in it and what were they pushing? Who was the force behind Lincoln and his tariffs on the south? Who was benefiting from it? Who was smuggling cotton from the south to the north? Who benefited the most from the South's destruction and the ability to have goods readily available?

Watches a YouTube video and is now an expert on (insert subject). Lord help this society.

Watches a YouTube video and is now an expert on (insert subject). Lord help this society.

yet the lincoln hater mob still demonize any actual libertarian that runs for office or stands against the current GOP stance. And by libertarians i'm not talking about the ones that are the socialists that run the L party and just want drugs.

Average person attends one American History class in 9th grade public school and forms their opinion around it. Guess knowledge doesn't count unless it's obtained from a college eh?

Watches a YouTube video and is now an expert on (insert subject). Lord help this society.

Got a public education and a college degree and is now and expert on (insert subject). Lord help this society.

Interesting. About 10 years or so ago, one of the TV stations submitted a list of 100 of the most influential people in America. They asked viewers to vote each week. Each week, based on the voting, they narrowed the field down after the first week to 50, the next week to 25, the next week to 10, the next week to 5. Finally they voted for the most most outstanding American from those last 5. I recall some of the finalists were Washington, Lincoln, Reagan, Franklin, and one other I don't recall. The winner was Lincoln.

Well, think.about how ignorant the average American is.
Then realize that 50% are ignernter...

And words are important. Influential does not necessarily equate to outstanding. And neither necessarily implies good. Genghis Khan was both influential and outstanding. Good is up for debate.

Most surveys still rank Wilson and teddy Roosevelt as the best presidents despite being the two worst until recently