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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: martentrapper] #8448354
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
Over the 45 or so years I've lived in Alaska, freeze up has come later and later, on average.
Pretty skeptical the warming was caused by us humans.


If you forget about politics for a bit and just consider raw science. We know that water vapor holds in heat right? We also know that the greenhouse gases do the same. Consider for a moment that every gallon of gas that gets burned produces 20 lbs of CO2 and then add in all the other fossil fuels being used and it starts to make sense.


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: white marlin] #8448362
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Originally Posted by white marlin
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Didn't any of you have science classes in high school?\

LOL


What did your science classes have to say about drawing scientific conclusions from correlations in time?

LOL!


You words not mine. There is a reason that 97% of the scientists that work in this field do believe that global warming we are seeing since the start of the industrial revolution is man caused... because nothing else makes sense. It's happening too fast for any other natural reasons to compute. You should look into it. In the history of the world there have been warm ups and cool downs all via natural means. None have happened this fast or even close to it. So far the models started in the 50's have actually been off...we're warming much faster than thought possible back then.


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8448372
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BP, if you send a YouTube video link they’ll listen.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8448374
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BP, the correlation thing IS Science 101. Period. Full stop.

And it is easily proven.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8448421
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Please to show how "correlation" has discredited man-caused global climate change. It would be odd that 97% of the scientists who support man-caused climate change flunked Science 101.


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8448424
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I think we get more heat change from this than some gas in the air.

https://phys.org/news/2016-09-temperature-earth-crust.html


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: white marlin] #8448440
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Originally Posted by white marlin
BP, the correlation thing IS Science 101. Period. Full stop.

And it is easily proven.


Did you ever tell us your highest math and science classes? And grades?

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Blaine County] #8448443
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by white marlin
BP, the correlation thing IS Science 101. Period. Full stop.

And it is easily proven.


Did you ever tell us your highest math and science classes? And grades?

What about you?

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8448500
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Please to show how "correlation" has discredited man-caused global climate change. It would be odd that 97% of the scientists who support man-caused climate change flunked Science 101.


the main argument seems to be "man-made CO2 is increasing and the earth's temperature has been increasing, therefore: we're CAUSING it"

you got anything else, or is that pretty much it....a correlation in time?

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Blaine County] #8448501
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by white marlin
BP, the correlation thing IS Science 101. Period. Full stop.

And it is easily proven.


Did you ever tell us your highest math and science classes? And grades?


Faucci has at least one doctorate. how did he do with Covid?

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8448506
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If " a pint is a pound the world around", then a gallon of gas is about 8 lbs. After being burned, HOW can it produce 20 lbs. of CO2? Something just don't sound right to me!


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Blaine County] #8448510
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
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BP, the correlation thing IS Science 101. Period. Full stop.

And it is easily proven.


Did you ever tell us your highest math and science classes? And grades?


you don't have a medical degree or license to practice medicine anywhere do you? and yet, you question such experts' conclusions regularly. correct?

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Don’t forget all the farting cows.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: bfflobo] #8448513
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Originally Posted by bfflobo
If " a pint is a pound the world around", then a gallon of gas is about 8 lbs. After being burned, HOW can it produce 20 lbs. of CO2? Something just don't sound right to me!

The combustion reaction takes oxygen from the atmosphere to form CO2. One carbon atom pairs up with 2 oxygen atoms, each a little more massive than the carbon atom, and carbon comprises most of the mass of the gasoline (as each carbon atom is much more massive than each hydrogen atom).

For octane:
2 C8H18 + 25 O2 --> 16 CO2 + 18 H2O

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: white marlin] #8448514
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by Blaine County


Did you ever tell us your highest math and science classes? And grades?


Faucci has at least one doctorate. how did he do with Covid?


Actually, I'll answer my own question...he made crap up to fit his agenda.

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8448530
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I don’t know that it’s fair to compare Anthony Faucci, who is ONE criminal scientist, to thousands of climate change scientists.

Plus, I think he was asking for everyone’s personal education levels and grades.

Since you’re all so shy, I’ll go first. I have a B.S. in Forestry and graduated with a 3.5. I took many, many forestry and biology classes and my highest level of math was Calculus. If anybody would care to explain why I needed Calculus for forestry I’m still searching for the answer.

White, you’re a Forestry guy as well. Were you also required to take a ridiculous level of math?

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8448568
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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by Blaine County


Did you ever tell us your highest math and science classes? And grades?

What about you?


Calc II was the highest I made it math. Mostly science classes in undergrad. Finished with a 3.5. Could have done better but work and, more likely, herbal studies resulted in a GPA ceiling.

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