Looks like Trump finally figured it out. Going sign an executive order to end it. About time.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/major-announcement-president-trump-vows-lead-movement-rid/

I am skeptical but hopeful that he has that authority.

No longer a viable option instate mail here took 13 days to get halfway across the state! USPO is a joke now.

BTW, when the blow back starts, all the blah, blah, blah, there is now evidence. People in MI going thru voter rolls, found something like 300,000 voter registrations for people that don't exist. That is not new. What is new is they went one step further and are finding evidence of those people who don't exist did in fact vote. Ballot mailed to a person who doesn't exist and those ballots returned and were counted. That closes the loop.

This has major implications for some states, like CA, AZ, CO and others. CA mails a live ballot out to every registered voter in the state. Real or not, requested or not. Then allows ballot harvesting. I watched a US House district election count drag on for 28 days AFTER the 2024 election was over. They were still finding and counting ballots. Once the Dem finally pulled ahead after 4 weeks of counting, they called it. Flipped that seat and 4 or 5 more just like it. CA doesn't have an election........they hold a pre-ordained election outcome event. That may be all about to change.

Covid had unsecured random drop boxes that had no way to trace the origin of the ballot. Those that laughed at the election wasn’t stolen and couldn’t have been just miss the possibility that it could have been. Lots of election fraud has come up but it’s been going on forever even though many ignore thst it’s happening.

i really dont see how he can do that without either a constitunional amendment or a law passed saying that you cant send ballots through the mail. Amendment is probably easier as you can bypass congress.

Trumps driving a stake through the deep states heart...It's a beautiful thing to behold.

Lost in the shuffle of the ballot drop box stories........is where did all those ballots people are seen stuffing into them come from? Has taken time to unravel, but there are dozens of schemes being used, but in the end, what matters is live ballots, with no chain of custody are mailed out, are returned and no clue about what happened to them in between. But common theme in all of them is vote by mail. That allows a huge float of live ballots that can be snagged and returned. Enough to rig outcome of an election? If 2020 was any indication, yes.

Every other country that tried it ended up banning it and for the same reason. Election fraud.

Below is a link that explains some differences between mail in and absentee.

Bryce

https://www.buckscounty.gov/FAQ.aspx?QID=358

Thanks for the thread HayDay

Never a doubt in my mind the dems stole that election.

I voted a absentee by mail. I have to give credentials to get the ballot. What's the issue if done properly.

Fun reading the FAQ. One of more interesting scams they have found is when people arrive at polling place to vote, only to be told they have already voted......by mail. They hadn't. Somebody did it for them, but it wasn't them. Real legit address, real registered voter, Real fraud and nearly impossible to detect. Is only discovered if/when the legit voter shows up. If not for that nobody the wiser. Other cases, people who have never registered to vote, or have never voted themselves found to be on the voter rolls and according to records, had voted......by mail. Only discovered when people started looking. One guy even found himself voting from a residence he had moved away from a few years prior.

Common theme in all of it........vote by mail.

While you may see it as a legit, secure method, it isn't. How can it be when they find 20 people that don't exist registered to a donut shop, and they are voting? All that matters is getting the names into the system. Tons of ways to do that, and made easier if the elections officials are in on it. Then, once ballots go out, it's run 100% on honor system. Signatures on return ballots do not have to match. They have counted ballots with no signatures and only voting for one or two key ballot issues.......President and US Senator. Nobody else. Thousands of them.

You thinking it's legit, also convenient and you like it .They are counting on you wanting to keep it that way so they can use process you like to insert as many fake ballots as needed to win.

This is just talk to distract y'all from, among other things, Trump and his team lying to you about Epstein.

The states are responsible for deciding how to conduct elections. Not the feds--or Trump by yet another executive order.

And, don't get your panties in a wad. I too want legit elections. I however couldn't give a flip about what Putin supposedly thinks about 2020.

They don't check credentials for mail-in voting. They just mail to the address listed on the rolls in many states.

So there are no Federal election laws applicable to Federal issue elections run in OK?

Only way I can vote is by mail.
NEVER voted D in my life EVER.
Take away my right to vote why?
Because too lazy to present this "evidence"?
Evidence my hyner.
He got nothing.

SOGOTP

Since PA does allow in person voting, must presume the reason you can only vote by mail is limited physical ability to get to a polling place? That is what Absentee ballots are for and nobody talking about taking those away.

And while you are worried about that, tens of thousands of fraudulent vote by mail ballots will be floating around in Philly cancelling you out tens of thousands of times.

Our educational system, the media and the political parties must do a much better job of educating the public about the difference between vote by mail and absentee voting.

Why no evidence?
The perfect con?

X2

Look up the black pastor from Detroit. He and a busload of people like him went to DC to testify what he found. He has only scratched the surface.

No evidence of WIDE SPREAD voter fraud. Is the claim I remember. I could say that and not lie. What's the definition of wide spread?

A bunch in key districts in key states is enough to change an election. No point on trying to turn every state so if wide spread definition is x amount nationality instead of focused in key areas it would be a true statement. . But still stolen election.

3x on the public learing the difference between absentee ballots vs voting by mail. As this thread shows there is a large % that doesn't understand the difference.

HayDay is correct. Absentee ballots are a necessity and are more secure than mail-in ballots which are a joke and a fraud, Democrats made it very easy to abuse that system which I believe was the driving factor behind the mail-in push.

I've used absentee ballots when working out of state during elections. There are fairly strict rules for timelines and verifiable ID. Also, our military and other federal government employees working/stationed overseas would have no way to vote without absentee ballots.

I'm am very happy to see voter fraud addressed at the federal level and by the President himself. Whether or not anything comes of it will remain to be seen but Trump has a history of following through on his promises and ideas whether you like that fact or not.

Yeah, I'm sure the TDS crowd will be quick to point out the few he's not kept...yet. But that same crowd loves to ignore all of his previous accomplishments don't they?

Correct! There is a lot of documented evidence of voter fraud all over the Country. But it wasn't "widespread." What a load of crap that is. Wasn't widespread enough to do anything about...SMH.

Well if the evidence was that easily found they couldn't actually steal now could they? And all the known facts points toward something totally unheard of and way out of the historic norm in 2020. Dare I say that by all appearances, stolen?

Since then there's been more than enough actual evidence gathered across multiple states, incuding convictions, to extrapolate a pattern of theft and fraud.

"Evidence" like this has been known from day 1. This was Detroit but same pattern exists in GA, PA, WI, AZ and NV. At midnight, Nov 3rd, 2020, Trump was ahead in all 6 remaining states by a margin of 2M votes combined. He went on to lose all 6 by combined total of 200,000 votes, and 150,000 of those in MI alone. Didn't matter the margin, it was made up.




The vote ratios coming in after election was too lopsided to be believable. And of course these were all vote by mail ballots. Only years later has the source of all those ballots starting to come into focus. How they did it. Or as the man said, have come to realize that running out of ballots to count to win an election as bad as running out of beer at your 4th of July party. But it begins and ends with vote by mail.

If you need a ID to vote how does that work then? I could see if one was requested and verified upon request but sending out random ballots unverified is ripe with corruption then.

Pretty serious fed accusations.
Why no attempted prosecution?
Jealousy of the perfect con?
Suckered sore losers?
Spanked like last years KC Chiefs?

No evidence.
The guys at tman said so aint it.


Who is,
the next candidate????

Want more "evidence" of election fraud? This chart was part of evidence presented b Kari Lake team to challenge 2022 election in AZ. Have shown this to no less than aides for two US Senators and even after explaining it to them, they had a confused look on their face. I suspect you guys will do better.



To get to this took a bit of extra effort on part of some analyst.. These are statewide totals. What matters is approximately 250,000 Democrats......nearly 20% of the total Democrat vote in AZ only voted for the top 4 races. Governor, AG, Sec of State and US Senator. They did not vote for US House of Rep, or an other down ballot issue. Republicans pretty even, so not something normally seen in an election. Not in AZ or any other state. Undervoting happens, but not to this extent. That is a stuffed ballot box.

Then we find out all those votes came out of Phoenix and Tuscon. Also found that when counting all those ballots, signature match was not required. They even counted ballots with no signatures. Margin close but all 4 won. They seated a US Senator, and state now run by Democrats. Guvnor, AG, Sec of State. They locked it in. No changes possible.

Now comes the fun part.........people with good computer skills began to analyze voter rolls cross referenced to RE Property Tax records. Found voters registered to all manner of places where US mail can't reach them. Vacant lots. RV parks. Funeral homes. Walmart. No voter mail gets delivered there, so goes to dead letter office, then goes missing. But somehow they still vote.

What about prosecuting these voters? Can't find them as they don't exist and state does not have resources to hunt them down, and since run by the same Democrats that benefited, they are not going to look. Worse, will shoot down any attempt by anyone else to look.

The only way any of this works or matters is vote by mail. Fake people registered to vacant lots can't show up to vote in person. The whole thing collapses without vote by mail.

Sarah Sanders

From what I understand about absent ballots , is for Military personnel, stationed overseas.

Might be a few others , but just military, they could vote on base, and all ballots sent to a vested poll booth.
Those that are in nursing homes or that kind of not being able to go to a voting/polling booth 
/ station, should have at least two people show up to receive their covered up vote.
One from each major party, if needed a third from independent or write-ins.
It may cost taxpayers , but I don't think they would mind having an honest voting system.
There's never been a reason for mail in voting.
Don't ever remember hearing about mail in, until the COVID  scam.
Which just so happened in or just before the election year.
I honestly believe it was a set up, and a trial for finding just how much people would follow their orders.

Why can you only vote by mail?

???????????????????????? Do you have RED FLAG laws in PA?

The folks that think you're wrong for even considering that fraud had even occurred do they think that no fraud is even possible, so who’s not thinking clearly really? Sending ballots to random addresses on a list to people that might not even be alive is ludicrous if they request one and prove its a legit request mail them one it’s verified then anything else is a phishing scam.

Ok, so when CO and other California and yankee infested states decided to not allow President Trump on their state ballots, what happened with that issue, counselor?

Did another state tell them they can't do that?

SMH!!!

Blah blah blah... Trumpoline is a dickperiod,

Ah, the first name calling has started!!

LOL!!!!

Yea!!!!! He just can't get over the fact he lost an election.

No politics …. This is a profanity forum

Very profane statement. But I respect that.

LOL DD Good job!
Will never understand beaverpeelers thinking.

Ditto!

We should start with educating the public about the Constitution and the role of the states in elections. Much more important.

And educate folks on how the Electoral College works and why it is so important in fair elections.

One thing I've noticed that rings 100% true is if you don't like Trump you don't care what happened........as long as he lost. Have yet to find any other response from the TDS crowd. News reports always include "without evidence". You can produce evidence out the wazoo and it will be ignored.

Meanwhile............this is going on........

https://www.themidwesterner.news/20...tor-city-during-house-committee-hearing/

These unsophisticated guys found all kinds of evidence. All they had to do was look.........and of course it gets blown off. Nothing to see here.......move along.

One thing I have noticed is that if you adore Trump you assume 2020 was rigged.

Biden sucks so bad but he beat Trump in 2020. Get over it.

Also important to understand the Electoral College.

LOL I still wonder what happened to that 20 million votes in 2020 in 2024.

If Trump is so “dangerous,” why do we always end up with more money in our pockets, safer streets, and a more peaceful world when he’s in office? 🤔

Flaw in your logic BC. The election was clearly rigged. Go back and look at my post and see all the hate I have gotten for calling Trump out on the stuff he has done and said I don't like( take the guns first due process later) is one example. I'm far from a adore of The man. I also know im not going to agree with everything anyone does not even my amazing bride. I also don't have all the information access the man gets what he got or when he got it or from where it came . Was it thought creditable at the time ect.. Pretty easy to arm hair quarterback after the fact.

Catch and release.

Many small towns and townships in Minnesota are mail in voting. You can still vote in person at a central location usually the county courthouse but it can be 40-50 miles or more.

For what it is worth, Several people I know, one being my Son, have been told at the polls that they had already voted . They waited for an hour for an explanation , were finally told to vote , Conditional?, anyway if they figured it out they would use his real vote.

Compelling argument.....

Fixed it for ya.

LOL Perfect!

In 2024 in all the swings States that Trump won( except Nevada I believe) the total number of voters was more than the total number of voters from 2020 when he lost due to the fraud vote. Apparently the fraud vote went up ( not down) and it was for Trump in 2024?

" In the seven major battleground states turnout was more than 70%, exceeding both the national turnout rate and the battleground state turnout rate for 2020."

what happened in 2024

explain bidens 20 million vote surge

SMH !

If anyone would know about free elections, it would be Putin.

Putin is a man of conscience and when his subconscious says not to eat, apparently he listens, lol !

The same crowd the created the fictional Russion Collusion hoax when Trump won nine years ago. Then voting fraud was a very real thing and the TDS crowd ate it up. When Biden won, "no, evidence, nothing to see here folks."

Just when "hanging chads" were becoming household words, the rules changed !

Exactly! Can't trust either party that's been in power over 4-8 years!
Term limits on all political offices. 4-8 years max.

THIS

Thanks again for thread HayDay

Same as they stole Pa.

Our supreme court (democrats) even helped them by going against our state constitution and counting ballots not turned in on time.

Guess who was ahead before, and who gained after, lol.

But no one prosecuted?

If proof it happened but none
by who, then the perfect con no?


What is TDS crowd?

Very interesting and intuitive thread!

How can they when the courts are the ones that did it?
https://www.wtae.com/article/pennsy...s-three-days-after-election-day/34058774
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...on-pennsylvania-ballot-counting-n1243949
Same happened in other states also.

Why do you need to vote by mail?

Ask yourself who was in control of the media, and government at that time.

So conned right to the top.
SCJs conned too? or paid?
Fed vote fraud is their gig right?
Did anyone send these evidence
links to them rather than trappers?

These guys are going to get prosecuted when Trump prosecutes all the Fraud that Doge found. Especially that fraudster Jerome Powell.

It's going to happen, and soon as more important issues are settled.
The swamp will be exposed and drained.

Just like the Epstein files/list!!!

LOL. Don't hear much about DOGE anymore.

LOL Is that all you have?
You know you're barking up the wrong tree.

I have little to no faith anything of substance will ever get done about any of it. Call me skeptical if you like i would go with realistic. Both will work hoping to be wrong on both counts.

Reason you don't hear about doge much, isn't that it's not working.
MSM doesn't what people to know that it is working.

They have website. Evidence it is not working is on the website. 205 billion in multi year savings. Nowhere near the 2 trillion goal.

I think over 30 countries vote by mail. Germany and Great Britton do for sure. With two 100 year old parents, it was convenient.

The swamp will not be drained. I wish it would, but it ain’t gonna happen.

Be patient, there's a lot on his plate that needs more attention .

I must conclude you (and others) did not bother to read the link provided? Ramon, Lorenzo and about 80 others testified in front of US House committee, and provided affidavits under threat of perjury where they provided evidence someone not them registered their names and voted by mail on their behalf. As noted, as long as Trump lost, you really, really, really do not care what happened.

If not for vote by mail, the only way someone could vote for Ramon and Lorenzo was for someone not them to register their names, then someone impersonating them would have to show up with fake ID to vote in person. Could that be done? Yes.......but not nearly as easily as just snagging the paper ballots floating around in the public domain, marking those up and placing in drop boxes. Each of those fraudulent ballots cancelling out a legit voter.

Are people corrupt enough to do all this? Absolutely yes.

BTW, this does not just affect Presidential races. Ramon and Lorenzo are both Democrats and where looking into a local election for city council. Why was it one of them lost. Once they got an eye full of the fraud, they found out why.

The absolute worst in all this is state of CA. When they are allowed to find (run around harvesting ballots) and count votes for weeks after election day is over, there is no valid outcome. It would be like playing poker where you show your hand, then I'm allowed to keep drawing cards till I get a hand I like better. No way to beat that.

That is what you get with vote by mail.

HayDay, you are wasting your time and efforts trying to explain facts to someone suffering from TDS. You will never get through to those folks. They are mentally ill and need help above what you or any that aren't professional psychiatrists/psychologists/therapists can provide.

It's best just to ignore them.

Yeah.........the true election deniers are those that refuse to accept the election fraud. They continue to rely on pure vote totals.......Biden had more, so Trump lost. To accept that requires one to believe election processes are as pure as the wind driven snow. But once you do find evidence of fraud, that then opens the door to a maybe. Maybe there really was fraud and the unthinkable..........maybe Trump really did win? Can't be having that.

BTW, as for the Putin connection, Trump and GOP don't need Putin to explain anything. They lived it. Trump's daughter in law Lara was Co-Chair of RNC. They must have filed hundreds of lawsuits during runup to and after 2024 elections in places like PA, MI, WI and AZ. If memory serves McCormack in PA won US Senate race, then had to stave off attempts to count an extra 30,000 ballots that somehow showed up.

And nearly 100% of it all revolving around vote by mail ballots.

Just show up in person, show an ID, clerk gives voter a ballot to mark up, then voter himself inserts it into a dumb scanner to be counted. Chain of custody one person and 20 feet. It's not that hard. Do that and outcome is what it is. Best candidate wins fair and square. Better option than best cheater wins by hook or crook.

Who verifies the credentials and how often?

I think there is fraud in every election, not just 2020. It usually only matters in close elections. If you are real popular, they can't fraud you out of a victory,

Being half the country has their hand out and pay no taxes and the other half is carrying the load most elections are close.