Why do churches not talk about the sins that are taking place in today’s society. The Catholic church seems to be turning progressive. What is going on???

The Catholic church is more than just "turning" progressive. Many other denominations as well.

….. glad I wasn’t a choir boy … that’s all I’m going to say lol

Cuz it's easier to be a honey tongued Joel Olsteen vs. a backwoods truth preaching man of God who makes very little $$, but is pure in heart.

Most churches are swimming with the wordly current, and it won't end well.

If they dont your not in the right church! a large % dont want to offend anyone and select feel good messages to keep people comming back and the money coming in.

…. I went to the church over off of 945 once … pastor said I was likely to get hit by a log truck on the way home … said I needed to be sure where my soul was headed

… I did pass a couple log trucks but didn’t get hit

Lol, At least he didn't come right out and tell you that you were going straight to hades...They do that here...Even told my granny that, which was pretty funny considering she was a saint personified.

Know your not super religous, but keep a eye out for those logging trucks Savell.

Many biblically based churches do preach the gospel truth. Many "listeners" choose to be hearers of The Word and not do'ers of The Word (James 1).
.......also, many people don't want to give up their sin(s)......

Our church preaches sin, this mornings message was how "innocent" gossip can turn to malice and slander. 1 Peter 2:1 If our preacher went soft on the Word, he'd be out of the pulpit. Small rural church.

… them priest in the Catholic Church don’t go soft from what I hear

… hope punishment awaits for those types

… ain’t just catholic either… I was at church camp as a kid … one of the pastor types rounded up us kids to check for ticks … I eased out the back and went fishing while everyone else got fondled

…caught a nice catfish too

I here some stories on here and wish everyone could find a Bible believing Bible teaching Church. From what i hear i can understand why some could be put off from their experience. Our Church hates sin but we try to love the sinner.

My church does all the time. Just part of the sermon. I go to a Lutheran church if that makes a difference.
What church denomination do you go to that doesn't talk about today's sins?

Ours is so against sin, that the pastor invents new sins for those who think they aren't committing any!

I suspect that a lot of churches are just social clubs where you go to get a pep talk, but there's still plenty that teach the gospel.

And since they were the very first Christian church, that all other Christian churches spawned from, the roots of all Christian churches are rotten. It's all about power over people and money.

Keith

The Preist this morning talked about pride and humility. I told my wife I got plenty of humility from my old tractor not wanting to run and pride when I got it running.

Talking about sin does not sell well. Tickle people's ear with what they want to hear and you will have a good audience.

Keith,
The Roman Catholic Church got it's start around 325 AD in Rome. The catholic (universal) church of the followers of Jesus Christ followers began shorty after the ascension of Jesus Christ.

There's no other church left between Jesus and the Protestant churches, that formed after 1517, besides the Catholic church. All Christian churches at this point are solidly rooted in Catholicism.

Keith

All religions are crooked.

No, it's not "all about" power over people and money. There are many, many devout people of good faith who minister to the poor and try to spread their message of salvation. It is an institution comprised of people, and all people are sinners and some will definitely use whatever institutions they can as tools to their own benefit. But I can't think of any priests whom I've personally met who are trying to impose power over people or who are rolling in money.

Oh great. Another Catholic bashing thread.

Our Priest is far from progressive and is a very good man. He hits the sins hard in his homilies.

…. What’s homilies ? …. Sounds sketchy

Sermons

… thanks for the clarification… I thought was corn soaked in lye

Preaching truth involves everything from the love go GOD to the fires of hades. All of it comes from the Bible.

There is good and bad in everything we do. Parenting, money management, self control.

If a person can't handle talking about h ell then they shouldn't profess to be a Christian.

Joel Osteen is a perfect example of how soft and detached a percentage of Christians have become and how greedy a decent percentage of preachers have become.

Now here comes the "If GOD loves you why does HE ...." If your parents loved you, why did they punish you?

A group of people that aren't purdy.

We have churches up in the mountains that have snakes. If you show up and don't bring your own they'll loan you one.

…. They’re the only true believers as commanded in the Bible

…. Except they don’t drink poison as it says in the same scripture

… why don’t they drink poison?

Mark Driscoll
Phillip Anthony Mitchell
Josh Howerton

These among maybe a handful of others really preach, what seems to me to be, real biblical truth. I recommend people take a listen and decide for themselves.

You can for the most part drink snake venom safely, whether you believe in Jesus or not. Asian people frequently drink snake venom in some countries. It's not poisonous to drink. It needs injected into the blood stream to hurt you.

Keith

I reckon it is much easier to preach John 3:16 than it is to preach John 3:18.

… mark 16:17-18 is where it separates the true believers from the rest

… there’s those that speak in tongues

… there’s those that heal

… there’s those that handle snakes

… but only Jim jones crew drank the poison

On one hand I hear almost weekly that good works won't save you and on the other hand bad works amount to nothing if you repent. So just from the nature of man wonder which hand gets full first !

It sure is. Where do you think separation of church and state came from. Years ago, everything had to go through the church. The people had enough.

In a church state if you were a widow with kids as long as you did what the church said you would get your welfare. If not then maybe you would catch a boat to the America and help pay tea tax, lol.

My church certainly does.

…. If you ain’t drinking poison and handlin serpents you have no room to talk

The concept of separation of church and state (which, by the way, is not a phrase found in our Constitution, and some of the individual states did indeed have state-sponsored religions in the early days of the USA) came about because the kingdom the colonists were rebelling against had their own state religion established by Henry VIII. They still do. Catholics were also barred from public office in that kingdom.

^ He ain't lying.

I am tired not only of the corruption of churches but the so-called Christians that do not attend a church and say and do things but then claim, they never would say or do that because they are "Christians". If the way they act, and do, is being a Chrisitian I do not want to be that version and heaven is going to be real empty.

How come no one is explaining why they dont drink poison and play with venomous snakes? Who is laying on hands and curing cancer? When I was a kid I was told the laying on of hands did not work because my young cousin did not have faith. It was his fault he died in agony at 14 years old.

If the poison, snakes and faith healing is not truth, how do you know what is?

My great aunt in the 50's died from appendicitis because her holy roller faith healer husband wouldn't take her to a doctor. After that every time he got a pain he would go to the doctor. He wasn't a favorite in-law of our family.

Too many churches consider themselves a hotel for saints, not a hospital for sinners and act accordingly.

When mom was a kid she had a ton of warts and some other problems. Someone brought out a faith healer and it all went away. Now I dont expect you to believe a guy on the internet but I sure as heck do believe my mom's first hand personal account.

As far as your cousin and what sounds like a fraud. Well sometimes we pray God always answers Maybe not on our time frame or how we are thinking and sometimes the answer is no. It sure was no when my son was killed dont ask me why. But I will see him again.

Well said. Not one of us is worthy and nothing we can do on our own will make us worthy. We have to accept the gift of salvation freely offered to us through Jesus sacrifice.

Just becust people are Christian does not mean they are now perfect and no longer sin. We do and do so often . the difference is repentance and trying to do better . If any of us were perfect or could be Jesus would not have had to come be tempted, humiliated, beaten, and killed.

Interesting about warts. My daughter had many warts on her hands. She tried some over the counter recipes which didn't help. I had read where some claimed ginseng had cured their warts. So, I got some ginseng capsules from a grower in WI. Within about two months her warts started disappearing. Within about 6 months she was wart free.

Keith,
These churches existed in the 1st century.
Revelation 1:4
I'm not sure where you get the idea all churches begin with The Catholic Church.

I just try to stay one step ahead of the devil.

Think about it, if everyone got healed every time, no believers would ever die. Kinda hard to g to heaven that way.

Just remember the last pope was all for illegal immigration but yet there’s a wall around the Vatican. My mother raised me a Catholic but I’ve only been in church at funerals in last 59 years . It’s all about a buck

None of those were Protestants.

When it started, denominations didn't exist. It was just "The Way."

This.
If death, disease, and bad stuff didn't happen, that would mean we are living in heaven. That option got screwed up a long time ago.

Fear

Fear of losing tax exempt
Fear of offending the biggest tithers
Fear of upsetting the older members
Fear of running off the new attenders
Fear of the women
Fear of the men
Fear of upsetting the denomination
Fear of the Deacons/Elders

"For God hath not given us a spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind." 2 Timothy 1:7

We need more Martin Luthers

"Here I stand; I cannot do otherwise, so help me God!" Martin Luther

I am a deep blue bird and God in Jesus Christ. I also do know that society has made a dramatic left turn. It’s easier to fill the pulpit and your sanctuary with people feeling a need for saving from a church or a following. When people don’t realize his faith comes from your heart and your soul in a belief of something you can’t see or touch. Within that faith it’s having the commitment to take up your cross daily. I feel as our society and many of the people within most religions have learned to go with the flow and try and bend their religion to outwardly project themselves as good people. All I know is that when I go to heaven and I pace God and Jesus that is right that I will be humble within my sins. I have sought and continue to seek forgiveness for my actions where I have wronged. Society has just gave up stopped arguing stop following the laws of the Bible and a loud things that are complete work of demons. I still go to church, but I don’t have to follow their rhetoric or believe everything they say. I read the word of God daily almost 3 times if not more throughout the day, I pray continuously and seek God‘s wisdom. Honestly think that’s where we’ve started to fall down as a people as a human race. We have forgotten others. There is a master and a savior.

And the idea of sola scriptura was proclaimed by Martin Luther in the 1500s. For the churches that maintained Apostolic Succession (Catholic, Orthodox, Church of the East) dating back to "The Way" of the early church, it's quite a novel concept.

You don't have to believe in sola scriptura to be a Protestant. The more charismatic churches teach that God definitely speaks to people directly today. Because that's what scripture says.

Are you familiar with the Jewish Nazarenes. They took head of Jesus's warnings and left Jerusalem before the 70 AD distruction. They were of the first fruits of Jesus. They were around until 700 somthing when the Muslims finished them. They were enemies of the non believing jews, and enemies of the Gentile Christians concerning
the gospel. Because they followed the old covenant laws. Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
They where also enemies of the catholic church. And they were heavily persecuted by the Arion Christians be for the Muslims. There guys where protesting the Popos before there were Popes lol. Constantine became a Christian,
He didn't start Christianity.

I'm not a religious guy, never have been a church goer and was raised that way. I know my Dad's family was Catholic. We never attended Church. I was baptized Methodist at around 20 so I could be a Godparent to my nephew.

I went to my wife's Church (not Catholic) several times on Christmas Eve as that's what she did. My wife's parents were devoted members of the church they went to and my wife attended most of the time with them until her early 20's and she got a job that she worked weekends. Her parents attended consistently and volunteered at most events along with cleaning the Church as well. After her Dad's death her Mom's attendance fell off a few years later and they had a hard time keeping a Pastor which also contributed to that. However her Mom gave to the Church monthly, not a small amount either even though she didn't have a lot of money. Later in life as her mind was failing (dementia) she was a bit too generous to the Church as my wife was balancing her checkbook until she finally took it away. The Pastor was aware of her failing mind but it didn't seem to matter as long as the checks were coming, quite often multiple donations a month. To me it was wrong on every level and jaded me even more on organized religion than I already was. It's a money grab at the core. I don't care if you like that or not and you can say it's not that way everywhere but follow the money.

I'm not a perfect person and never will claim to be. I do believe in God and a higher power but I'll donate to charities and organizations I want to and agree with their goals. I won't be donating to a Church that will decide what to do with it or keep it for themselves. I've seen enough of the Pope and the Catholic Church that I'm glad I'm not a part of it. From the rape of choir boys that was and is still being covered up to being for illegal immigration to being against Capitalism. I have no problem if you're Catholic and a follower as that's your decision and only yours. The same can likely be said for other religions as well.

jalstat was right in his post. Follow the money.

Churches for whatever reason have left their parishioners.

What's the Catholic doctrine on being for illegal immigration and being against capitalism? Is that in the Catechism sonewhere?

What's the Catholic doctrine on being for illegal immigration and being against capitalism? Is that in the Catechism sonewhere?

No,..it's in their sermons,. A refuge if you will,...not limited to the Catholics.

You listen to lots of Catholic sermons, then?

Don't try to,..just an observation,..ngo' carry their weight.
Go to any major city,..a refuge ,..sanctuary shrouded in political determination.

Catholic Charities and Lutheran Social Services are responsible for bringing a lot of these refugees into the country. They were well paid for every family they sponsored.