Legality of suppressors
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09/03/25 07:07 PM
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bowhunter27295
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From what I read, the tax stamp for suppressors was set to $0. I also read that means they are not under taxable control so requiring their registration is unconstitutional. This sets up a fight as related to the $0 mandate for the ACA.
Anybody got any other latest info on this fight? I look forward to the day I can go into a gun store and purchase one off the shelf.
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Re: Legality of suppressors
[Re: charles]
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09/03/25 07:46 PM
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I wonder if they are a fad. Ugly as heck. When I shoot, it is only once. Dead deer right there.
Question: If I had one and used it to sight in a rifle, would the point of impact change if I no longer used the can? You're thinking about them in the wrong way...... There's lots of things that are unconstitutional. I like to follow the rules and stay out of trouble.
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Re: Legality of suppressors
[Re: charles]
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09/03/25 07:48 PM
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I wonder if they are a fad. Ugly as heck. When I shoot, it is only once. Dead deer right there.
Question: If I had one and used it to sight in a rifle, would the point of impact change if I no longer used the can? A fair chance it would.
Last edited by Yes sir; 09/03/25 07:49 PM.
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Re: Legality of suppressors
[Re: charles]
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09/03/25 08:13 PM
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I wonder if they are a fad. Ugly as heck. When I shoot, it is only once. Dead deer right there.
Question: If I had one and used it to sight in a rifle, would the point of impact change if I no longer used the can? On my 17WSM. 17 Remington and 223 the point of impact didn't change. Just have to see what your rifle does with and without.
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Re: Legality of suppressors
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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09/03/25 08:20 PM
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Suppressors are a big thing here have been even before it got easier to get them predator callers mostly started 15-20 years ago. The Sheriff had to sign off and we did the print cards.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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I wonder if they are a fad. Ugly as heck. When I shoot, it is only once. Dead deer right there.
Question: If I had one and used it to sight in a rifle, would the point of impact change if I no longer used the can? You're thinking about them in the wrong way...... There's lots of things that are unconstitutional. I like to follow the rules and stay out of trouble. That shooting only once can be an issue as well with some designs. Either first round pop or impact shift or both. Basically a cold empty can being sudenly filled with hot gasses. One benefit of the popularity is newer and better designs hitting the market that eliminate many older issues. While I haven't partaken of, I have been following, watching and reading and I believe the suppressor guys have done more advancements in materials and design in the last decade or so than the rest of the gun industry in the last century.
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Re: Legality of suppressors
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09/03/25 08:31 PM
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I feel the way they do in some other countries where suppressors are completely legal and encouraged.
It is like taking a big engine and running it on open headers. Sounds cool but you can hear it miles away. Can you imagine the noise if all cars didn't have mufflers ? That would be just raw and rude.
Having one on a firearm cuts down hugely on the noise pollution. Even with just one shot a season deer hunting is bad for your ears , I doubt most hunters wear hearing protection because it takes away noises they need to hear , like game moving. With a suppressor you don't need hearing protection as much.
Plus if you harvest a deer with a suppressor , you will not spook the deer the guy down the road is trying to harvest.
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Re: Legality of suppressors
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I feel the way they do in some other countries where suppressors are completely legal and encouraged.
It is like taking a big engine and running it on open headers. Sounds cool but you can hear it miles away. Can you imagine the noise if all cars didn't have mufflers ? That would be just raw and rude.
Having one on a firearm cuts down hugely on the noise pollution. Even with just one shot a season deer hunting is bad for your ears , I doubt most hunters wear hearing protection because it takes away noises they need to hear , like game moving. With a suppressor you don't need hearing protection as much.
Plus if you harvest a deer with a suppressor , you will not spook the deer the guy down the road is trying to harvest. you are required to have a muffler on your motorcycle , car , truck , lawn mower , it just makes sense we should be running hearing protecting simple mufflers on our guns as well. the 0 dollar tax stamp goes into effect Jan 1 it serves to take the money out of it , it may well make further change later. I am going to get my prints on Friday and get the process started so I either pre-buy and take delivery after Jan 1 or buy Jan 1
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I am going to get my prints on Friday and get the process started so I either pre-buy and take delivery after Jan 1 or buy Jan 1
Silencer Central is offering several models right now where they will cover the $250 fee.
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Re: Legality of suppressors
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I wonder if they are a fad. Ugly as heck. When I shoot, it is only once. Dead deer right there.
Question: If I had one and used it to sight in a rifle, would the point of impact change if I no longer used the can? subsonics in a suppressed 22 are amazing. There is no crack or pop. The primary sound is the action cycling. On a 4" bull barrel pistol, it just looks like a slightly long barrelled pistol. On a 10/22 charger with arm brace, it looks like a small rifle even with the suppressor. On larger rifles its still helpful. Yes it moves the POI, but it is repeatable.
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09/03/25 09:57 PM
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I am going to get my prints on Friday and get the process started so I either pre-buy and take delivery after Jan 1 or buy Jan 1
Silencer Central is offering several models right now where they will cover the $250 fee. I will look at that , I am specifically looking at a Rambling Man 46cal to go on my 1895 45-70 dark
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Legality of suppressors
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09/04/25 12:00 AM
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Not a fad at all in my opinion. After I got my first one I wanted all my guns threaded.
We had our annual high school buddies range day last weekend, we are all in our mid 50’s now, and about half the guns had suppressors on them. By the end of the day we seriously considered not allowing anything without a suppressor next year. It was refreshing to not have to have ear protection all the time, just made the whole day more enjoyable. We also discussed tinnitus and every single one of us has developed it now. Thousands of shotgun rounds bird hunting, hundreds of rifle rounds deer and other hunting without ear protection. Suppressors might save the next generation from so much hearing loss.
We put mufflers on cars, and they aren’t nearly as loud. I am a fan of suppressors and think they should not only be as legal and unregulated as a scope, but also encouraged. And my .22 squirrel rifle shoots a tad better with the can on, and the tree rats barely stop munching a nut when the one on the next branch over suddenly makes a “plop” noise and falls to the ground. I have regularly shoot a limit from one hickory without even disturbing the one not shot yet.
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Re: Legality of suppressors
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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09/04/25 04:48 AM
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IF I buy one it will be cause I decided to buy a 22 with a threaded barrel. Would be a boon for small game. I trap predators. Don't like shooting more than one deer a day. Processing meat is not a chore I enjoy with big game.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Legality of suppressors
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09/04/25 06:06 AM
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I always wanted one for my .22 for the coyote trapline Danny. That way I wouldn’t wake up the landowners around here in middle of the night when I’m running traps late. Jim
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