Let's all be honest Putins ultimate goal is to rebuild mother Russia, and is starting with Ukraine

Agreed. Trump should put the money where his mouth is and end the war in a day and stop funding this war completely.

I disagree. I think Putin's ultimate goal has not changed and is the same thing he has been harping on for 20 plus years, and that is he will not allow Ukraine to join NATO and allow the US to install a military base in his backyard. He's been explicit about this for decades. He sees NATO as an enemy and does not want them on his doorstep; it is his redline as he has stated repeatedly.

Secondarily, I think he does care for the 8-10 million ethnic russians that are in far east Ukraine that do hold allegiance to Russia. They are Russian Orthodox Christians.

Deflects attention from Israel stance .

Yes Sir your are right..... and Epstein and the Tucker debacle they are know facing regarding foreign powers.

OP, do you honestly think Trump is serious? Ukraine is a lost cause, Trump is playing the Europeans....at least I hope so; otherwise he is delusional.

The NATO thing backfired on him if that was his goal. (Which I don't believe)

How so did it backfire?

I'll believe it as soon as I see the US stop sending money to Ukraine and cut all ties. Whether you like Trump or not, we all know he is all talk and his Truth Social posts cannot be taken seriously.

Sweden and Finland Joined NATO because of the invasion of Ukraine.

And all the others are backing NATO by double what they were financially.

As far as not sending money, that has already stopped.

NATO is now buying arms from us and they're giving them to Ukraine.

NATO is us. Who is the biggest dog in NATO?

If we pull out, NATO and Ukraine is doomed.

Point being Chancey,

It backfired because he pushed two countries to join NATO and others to step up their funding.

I personally think it was a land/resource grab.

He thought he would just march in and take it like he did when Obama wad in, but he wasn't as strong as he thought he was and Ukraine was stronger than he thought so here we are 3 1/2 years later

Good, then hopefully the US can pull out and we have the money and time to take care of the western hemisphere and not worry about a place an ocean away. Kind of like the Monroe Doctrine.

^^^ This! The idea that the US or Europe for that matter could force Russia out of Ukraine is just delusional. Ukraine doesn't have the manpower left and the west doesn't have the munitions capacity even if Ukraine had more men. The sooner Ukraine capitulates to Russia's demands the better of a deal they get. Now it looks to me like what is keeping it going is the Ukraine leaders seeing how long they can keep diverting money to their personal accounts before the whole thing collapses. Cut off the money and the war ends. I blame Kellog for Trump being so obtuse but Trump has to take a lot of the blame himself. I thought better of him.

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This.
And this.

I hear guys like Jack Keane saying that Ukraine is winning this war; either he is living on another planet, or he thinks we are all fools. FOX only airs these types of opinions; they booted anyone who doesn't tow the line, like Tuckerson

Robert Barnes (I think a lot of him.) says the Trump truth mentioned in this thread is pure sarcasm. As in Ukraine is so strong they can push Russia clear back to Moscow. so they don't need us.
I hope this is true.

It's very funny to read you. Write more.

There is a mouse trap in the house! There is a mouse trap in the house!