If you are a caller, how long do you wait after you are in the stand before calling?

I hurt mostly on the ground so when I get to a spot I like I first kick the leaves away from where I will be kneeling.
Next I like to make a few soft deep grunts, then I'll use a stick I carry in my backpack and rub a sapling near me and add in some ground noise. I'll finish up that with a few more soft grunts.
If I have no reaction to that within 45 minutes or so, I move 50-100 yards and do it again.
In another week or so I'll eliminate the tree rubbing and make it sound like a buck is tending a doe, with ground sounds included.

If you have does with early dropped fawns the doe estrous call can be deadly now

I called and rattled a few times, to try it out! Most of the time nothing happens, but sometimes they come right to the edge of the woods and lock up to see what is making the noise.

Usually only call if one I want to shoot is out of range.
Or to.stop.one for a shot.
Have tried the occasional.grunt if things are dead last few years.

Best luck here is 2nd week of November, 10-14 peak.
Had a buck across a small creek one year Nov 7.

I grunted. Nothing. Grunted. Nothing. Grunted harder.He stopped.
Glanced my way, then kept going.
One week later, same scenario.
When I.grunted he stopped and stared, long and hard.
Soon as he started walking I.grunted again.
Jumped a fence, down the bank, across the creek, and pulled up.within a YARD of the tree I.was in.
Had to.lean.way out to clear stand and just sighted down arrow

Almost all.my.best archery bucks have been Nov 10 or 11.

The type of call you use makes a big difference in the sound you can get out of it
I have an original Tru Talker, it's tube feels just like a deers windpipe
Those plastic tubed ones are junk in my opinion, they can't product a quality sound
If you've ever heard a buck tending a doe that's the exact sounds you want to duplicate

The only time I tried a grunt call the deer ran away, lol

I use a estrus can call starting around Halloween. I get to my stand at least 45 minutes before first light, tip the can about 30 minutes after good shooting light. The can is very effective during the chase phase.

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I can't seem wait that long, you must be a practicing monk.

I call all season long when I'm bored on stand not aggressive but just deer sounds, bleats and soft grunts not often not real long but it doesn't seem to hurt anything and maybe it helps. I think of it like squirrel hunting in the sense that it lets the animal know another one is around and feels safe so come out and eat.

I think a call is a good tool to have in the bag but its not a big part in the scheme of killing deer. What sex, age group and time of year all have an influence on how effective and what approach you take to calling in my opinion. I dont do a lot of blind calling. I do think it can have as good of a chance to have a negative effect as it can a positive. Not saying it cant work sometimes because I've definitely called in deer but I've also seen it move deer away from me.

What is your target deer? Does for the freezer or population management, any antlered deer, mature buck??? How much hunting pressure do your deer get and what's your deer density where you hunt? For me all these would would be a consideration when it comes to my calling strategy.

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I've had deer come in frequently when using a rabbit in distress call to call coyotes. Cattle also come in to the same call.

Keith

You can blow into the bottom hole instead of turning it over. It's easier to control the time length of the bleat this way.

During rut, if you find a mature buck that is in between does and on the look, those can calls will bring them in like they are on a string. Wont be out there without one during that time of year.

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The thing is calls only work a small percentage of the time. I'd rather have the element of surprise on my side and not call and be set up in the right spot. . I've have had them work and had success too, but when they come looking, it's easier to get busted too. In thicker cover, I'm willing to bet many of us that blind called deer have had them circle down wind first as they do and busted us and we never even saw them. Calls are good tools, but gotta be used sparingly on my opinion.

That's what they typically do, so setup accordingly

I use the calls on my foxpro, set it up away from me so when they circle downwind it puts them in front of me. Gets fun in the rut.

I have never seen it work and all I learned from it is puts you notice and they know exactly where you are at. It is something I will never use.

As soon as I sit down.

A bristled up rutting buck can’t resist that grunt call, I’ve killed quite a few archery bucks using one to close the distance. I like it best nov 4-12 , seems like Veterans Day is peak. To answer your question, a few blind grunts after 45 min-1 hr in the stand if it’s slow. Otherwise wait until you spot him and use it as a tool to pull him in. I’ve never rattled in a mature buck, just young deer so I leave them home. Can does work during a narrow time frame , you can also blind call with it

Interesting, me reading this. The only experience I have with calling deer is with Sitka Blacktail. With fawn calls it’s usually over in a couple minutes. Rattling, which I consider calling, I will put a bit more time into. 20-30 minutes, at the most. Only had a couple bucks come to grunts, but they were similar to the fawn calls, very fast to appear.

I don't use a actual deer call but make the sounds myself.

So you're the one who coined the phrase "Blow it out your arse"

I still hunt and have used grunt calls to great effect. Have yet had one come into rattling but that's probably on me. Best piece of advice I got was you can call all you want but if the deer are not there, its not going to work.

Couple examples; Walking slow along a dry marsh and see an ear twitch, move away and up, keeping an eye on the area. Get to a spot and can tell there's a buck bedded down but can only make out a bit of his antlers. Give it about 40 mins (think deer have a 20-30 min memory) and hit him with the softest doe call I can. See his head snap over, couple more soft doe calls and then two quick excited buck grunts. That's it he has to stand up to see what's going on.

Headed to an area where i thought a specific buck was bedding down but was not sure. Set up with the wind in my face, beaver dam to my right and a small pond in front and to my left. Pine trees, marsh and then a long maple ridge on the other side of the beaver dam. Gave it about an hour(see above, about memory). Couple doe calls, followed by a buck grunt and a nice buck is immediately walking out of the pines heading for the beaver dam. He had to have watched me walk in but since i was out of sight to him it all worked.

Of course other times did everything described and nothing. One thing i have yet to be able to do is to get a deer to stop running away from me with a call, anyone have a trick for that shoot me a DM.

I've had bucks turn and come back.
And die for it

With a grunt tube I get their attention and shut up but I always have a stick on a string on the ground to make noise of a deer moving just like scratching leaves turkey hunting. A can call the same get their attention and shut up and let the deer make the rules on how it’s acting.

When calling or rattling, between rattles - hold your firearm in your hands and not the antlers. Ask me how I learned this.

I have had more than one deer, coyotes too, turn to look by just yelling at them. Won't stop long have your gun up.

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