Re: Mass firings
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My fear is that they are going to cut people who are actually valuable and leave people who aren’t. As a federal employee, I say nearly daily we could do the same work with half the people. In fact, there are supervisors saying that we absolutely should not do the work of people who are on furlough (even though it would be easy to do) because then the position will be viewed as not needed. The problem I see is going to be when they cut jobs to people like me who are willing to do several people’s jobs and not cut the people who barely do their own job. The funny thing is, I am considered essential, but everything in the government is so siloed that my entire team that I need to be able to do anything is furloughed. I think they're trying to do the opposite. Fire all and then rehire the good. The only way to prevent discrimination lawsuits. Ol dad
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Re: Mass firings
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the bloat needs cut but all the cuts will be a big blow to the economy and gdp. Government workers don't produce anything so I don't see an impact on the GDP. It will affect the employment numbers and those furloughed folks will have to find real jobs. That's simply not true of all government workers.
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Re: Mass firings
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Mass firing? LOL 10,000 firings out of 3 MILLION employees is less than 3/10 of one percent. For perspective, over 100,000 federal employees retire every year. Hardly an end of the world scenario. This. DOGE didn’t do crap and neither will this.
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Re: Mass firings
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Mass firing? LOL 10,000 firings out of 3 MILLION employees is less than 3/10 of one percent. For perspective, over 100,000 federal employees retire every year. Hardly an end of the world scenario. This. DOGE didn’t do crap and neither will this. Question ? 1 Why is there no one being jailed or in court for fraud? We heard DOGE had thousands drawing SS that shouldn't have been. Fraud was rampant and people were let go.. Why is no one being charged? Or Jailed?? Where is the savings if those payments stopped? Question? 2 Why do tax payers have no say in any form about use of tariff income? Who is keeping records of the amount from tariffs? Is it just in some slush fund no over site? Why can the administration decide it should subsidie farmers? Or now pay who they deem essential? Where is the accounting for this. Seriously someone explain this to me. Mac
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Re: Mass firings
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You already know Mark. A different bunch of political hacks get to line their pockets
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Re: Mass firings
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Mass firing? LOL 10,000 firings out of 3 MILLION employees is less than 3/10 of one percent. For perspective, over 100,000 federal employees retire every year. Hardly an end of the world scenario. This. DOGE didn’t do crap and neither will this. Agree on DOGE. Another scam. Also agree that some government workers do work and are necessary. We certainly can and should cut a lot of dead weight. But the irony of some of the Tman bums having an opinion on who doesn't work hard enough is not lost.
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Re: Mass firings
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How about a country where you didnt need to have a plan submitted to farm successfully? Why do farmers need to be subsidized? We dont need all the regulations.
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Re: Mass firings
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You already know Mark. A different bunch of political hacks get to line their pockets The Doge impoundments are complicated. The tariffs are being given to the treasury like the previous tariffs and spent by congress.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Mass firings
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You already know Mark. A different bunch of political hacks get to line their pockets The Doge impoundments are complicated. The tariffs are being given to the treasury like the previous tariffs and spent by congress. Different bunch thieves Different shell game. Not what Trumps been saying. Said going to take care of farmers and pay essential with their tariff money. Mac
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Re: Mass firings
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the bloat needs cut but all the cuts will be a big blow to the economy and gdp. Government workers don't produce anything so I don't see an impact on the GDP. It will affect the employment numbers and those furloughed folks will have to find real jobs. When they dont have a pay check they are not spending money. Spending drives the economy. Its pretty basic economics. Less new refrigerators get sold since fewer people have disposable income so factory making them cuts back maybe lays off. Now more people have less money and cut back. If its all at once can lead to recession. Incremental it would have Less impact all at once it would be beneficial if the government would actually cut the spending instead of move the money somewhere else and increase spending along with it. Spending needs cut debt needs eliminated. But its a balancing act to do so and not crash the economy.
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Re: Mass firings
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How about a country where you didnt need to have a plan submitted to farm successfully? Why do farmers need to be subsidized? We dont need all the regulations. Agree, we don't nedd ALL the regulations, but some are critical for saving our habitat. Don't need as much erosion controll in flat land, but here In Richland, Sauk, Grant.....its pretty dang important. where you didnt need to have a plan submitted to farm successfully we wouldn't if ALL farmers cared and used best practices. But like every industry, you have great, good, lazy, dumb, and so on. I don't want to be drawing my water from an auquifer that is contaminated ffrom over use of fertilizer, menure run off from huge comercial farms. Stop and think about why we have all the laws and regulations we have today - all because of what someone has done. Does a law or regulation need to be made for every little thing, NO. That part got out of hand. But we need to protect our resources and we need agencies making sure people are doing things right. So lets have a plan to get the job dome correctly without adding debt like FDR, Wilson, Bush, and Oboma did.
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Re: Mass firings
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Simplest way is a hiring freeze, let the employees retire and not replace them, and offer a buyout, cheaper to pay them off then pay them over time, next, cut every agency 10,15%...let the dept heads figure out how to live within their new budget, layoffs, no overtime unless an emergency, no wasteful spending just because they have money left at the end of the year, whatever...
Local township did this and cut a huge amount off the annual budget and very few people got hurt, they cut the budget 3 years in a row . All the work got done
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Re: Mass firings
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How low are we planning to go? The Total number of Federal employees has been about the same since 1968. Cut the payroll by 50 percent and it will have little effect on the deficit. Might reduce the deficit by 2 percent?
Who is John Galt?
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