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Alberta independence update,,,,
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11/15/25 09:41 AM
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Here’s a good discussion updating the current state of the drive for Alberta independence Cuz people were asking,,,,,, [video:youtube] https://youtu.be/rSs4TJMt4mg?si=4pi2FfHWuF6Gyu0P[/video]
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Re: Alberta independence update,,,,
[Re: spjones]
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11/15/25 10:47 AM
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Saskatchewan and Manitoba are not “right there with them”
Saskatchewan may be a wee bit closer,,,, but far from being right there,,,
Manitoba isn’t even in the discussion
After a successful Alberta independence referendum,,,, that would all change I’m certain
But that’s not what it’s about
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Re: Alberta independence update,,,,
[Re: spjones]
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11/15/25 10:57 AM
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Alberta has some impressive natural resources. Sounds like moving toward a sovereign nation? Push back from both Canadian and U.S. government will be immense.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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[Re: spjones]
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11/15/25 11:47 AM
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The video ( a lot of it) reminds me of Festivus" airing of grievances". Does it ever discuss the Clarity Act?
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Re: Alberta independence update,,,,
[Re: spjones]
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11/15/25 12:50 PM
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Saskatchewan and Manitoba are not “right there with them”
Saskatchewan may be a wee bit closer,,,, but far from being right there,,,
Manitoba isn’t even in the discussion
After a successful Alberta independence referendum,,,, that would all change I’m certain
But that’s not what it’s about You're obviously a lot closer to the situation than I am so I am not going to argue with you, but I have spent a lot of time in Manitoba, Sask and Ontario, and everyone I've met who lives outside the larger cities in Manitoba and Sask and everyone in Northwest Ontario are soooo ready to cut themselves off from being yanked around by the urban liberals.
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Re: Alberta independence update,,,,
[Re: spjones]
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11/15/25 01:26 PM
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Same can be said about the rural people of most states, especially New York......jk
Free people are not equal. Equal people are not free. What's supposed to be ain't always is. Hopper Hunter
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Re: Alberta independence update,,,,
[Re: BernieB.]
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11/15/25 02:14 PM
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Saskatchewan and Manitoba are not “right there with them”
Saskatchewan may be a wee bit closer,,,, but far from being right there,,,
Manitoba isn’t even in the discussion
After a successful Alberta independence referendum,,,, that would all change I’m certain
But that’s not what it’s about You're obviously a lot closer to the situation than I am so I am not going to argue with you, but I have spent a lot of time in Manitoba, Sask and Ontario, and everyone I've met who lives outside the larger cities in Manitoba and Sask and everyone in Northwest Ontario are soooo ready to cut themselves off from being yanked around by the urban liberals. I’ve lived 46 of my 50 years in rural Saskatchewan. If people you talk to in Saskatchewan are tired of being yanked around by the urban liberals you’ve been talking to very uneducated folk. Urban Saskatchewan is governed by the same conservatives in Saskatchewan that us rural folks are. They’ve been in power since 2007. My social circle is ranchers, grain farmers, tradespeople mostly and I’ve never even once heard anyone discuss separation.
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Re: Alberta independence update,,,,
[Re: spjones]
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11/15/25 07:28 PM
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Dirt,,, grievances generally are the leading cause of divorce
The Alberta independence movement isn’t about liberal vs conservative. Actual conservatives are few and far between in Canada
Canadain confederation is completely broken,,,
If in today’s world,,,if all the provinces were asked too join a confederation,,under the way its currently set up
No one would join
Alberta certainly wouldn’t
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[Re: jk]
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11/25/25 09:04 AM
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Same can be said about the rural people of most states, especially New York......jk Can include Eastern WA and Eastern OR in the states with rural folks unhappy about being ruled by urbanite liberals
The job of a Patriot is not to protect his country but to protect the people from the tryannical government
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Re: Alberta independence update,,,,
[Re: Hunter 1]
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11/25/25 09:52 AM
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No doubt Canada has issues but many other Countries have them too including our neighbour to the South.
For most people (regardless of the Country), it is all about decent wages and being able to put food on the table.
Dividing a Country is never the answer in my opinion. We need to hold our politicians accountable for their lack of action.
Canada is a old country and historically all old countries splinter of into smaller groups. We are also very diverse from coast to coast with varying needs from region to region. It is infuriating that a potato farmer in PEI dictates what a wheat farmer in Saak does. Or one province is exempt from some of the agreement under the confederation then stands in line to collect equalization payments.
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[Re: spjones]
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11/25/25 11:06 AM
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I'm pretty sure the equalization payments are what pisses Albertans off most. However, before oil , wasn't Alberta on the receiving end? Mind you, we are lucky our oil monetary surpluses go into State savings fund, and I believe equalization payments just reward bad behavior in the long run. P.S. If you look at current recipients of payments, you can see why" Friendly "Manitoba is not in the secessionist discussion.  able 1 – Equalization Payments, 2024–2025 Province $ Millions $ Per Capita % of Total Revenue Manitoba 4,352 3,109 19.4Ontario 576 38 0.3 Quebec 13,316 1,545 8.9 New Brunswick 2,897 3,629 21.9 Nova Scotia 3,284 3,252 20.7 Prince Edward Island 610 3,718 19.4 Newfoundland and Labrador 218 412 2.1
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Who is John Galt?
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[Re: spjones]
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11/25/25 12:22 PM
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It is funny how suicidal voters are. They want your money, but they don't like how you make it and will destroy the money flow. You ever hear of a place called ANWR?
Who is John Galt?
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[Re: spjones]
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11/25/25 12:35 PM
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Canada is in serious trouble,,,,,, has been for awhile
Private property rights in BC are now up in the air
No private companies are going to invest in a pipeline to the coast,,,,,, without serious government funding
The whole thing is going to blow up spectacularly
Literally,,,,not figuratively
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[Re: spjones]
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11/25/25 01:06 PM
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If you guys need a pipeline you can have the one TransCanada built for the State of Alaska down river. Sorry, no pictures to confirm this pipeline.  My bad. That was a different imaginary pipeline. This one is my imaginary pipeline. "The pipeline project began as a joint-venture between North Slope producers Exxon Mobil, BP Alaska, ConocoPhillips, and state-owned Alaska Gasline Development Corp. (AGDC).[1] However, by late 2016, AGDC was the only company remaining in the development of the pipeline project."
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[Re: spjones]
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11/25/25 01:22 PM
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Canada is in serious trouble,,,,,, has been for awhile
Private property rights in BC are now up in the air
No private companies are going to invest in a pipeline to the coast,,,,,, without serious government funding
The whole thing is going to blow up spectacularly
Literally,,,,not figuratively Sound like you will own nothing and be happy.
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[Re: spjones]
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11/25/25 03:08 PM
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Certainly it appears that may be the case in BC
Glad I never purchased real estate in BC
There’s still hope for Alberta,,,,,
I agree. Our premier doing a great job as far as I'm concerned and has us heading in the right direction. Bc ? Those guys never learn and unfortunately many are thinking of moving to Alberta. I tell everyone that wants to immigrate to Alberta to FO because we're full.
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[Re: spjones]
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11/25/25 04:46 PM
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What most people that live near me really want to know is.........if Alberta becomes it's own country, will all the recreational property owners here that have land just for hunting purposes be treated like other residents of other countries, then be forced to use the services of an outfitter to hunt deer and bear here? This is a genuine topic, as most of my neighbors make their living in agriculture. They have been priced out of local lands as the real estate market has changed to cater to recreational property, much like in many states and the only ones that seem to have deep enough pockets to buy what used to "bush pasture" for ranchers but instead is now hunting retreats, are from west of the border.
SP, I saw a lot of media coverage out of Alberta concerning thousands gathered at the legislature. What event are you discussing that wasn't covered?
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[Re: spjones]
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11/26/25 08:59 AM
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That sounds like a residency issue Saskatchewan will have to work out
The little global r44 was circling,,, never saw anything on global Yep thats exactly what it is. A residency issue I did see on it once on global. Said there was a couple thousand people turned out for a rally when it was 15000 or so. Funny 3 hr program shows this rally once yet the tranny crosswalk is news worthy every 20 mins. What I find is the most kept secret and no one is talking about is that these people that are showing up at these rallys are blue collar people who in the past bitched and whined but never done anything. These aren't the run of the mill pink hairs or lip ringed deadbeats. These are tax paying law abiding working stiffs making a statement. I'm glad to be a part of it.
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[Re: spjones]
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11/26/25 09:03 AM
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I for one would REALLY like to see our northern neighbors decide on a more conservative government. Good luck to you folks. I hope you accomplish it.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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[Re: spjones]
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11/26/25 10:05 AM
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"But leaving is not so easy as voting in favor of a referendum. Canada’s constitution does not allow unilateral separation. Following the unsuccessful referenda on separation in Quebec, the federal government enacted the Clarity Act in 2000 on how to approach future referenda on provinces seeking independence from the country. The act stipulates that the national parliament’s House of Commons determines if the referendum on a province’s independence demonstrates “a clear expression of a will by a clear majority” of the provincial population. Once determined, the provincial government can then negotiate with the federal government to amend the Canadian constitution to potentially allow its secession."
Somebody might have to explain why the rest of Canada would let their cash cow (Alberta) leave?
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[Re: spjones]
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12/03/25 07:00 AM
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Equalization transfers are a big part of it,,,, unfair representation is even bigger
It’s not a “one shot” deal
This has been going on for 80-90 years. Each time it gets closer to crossing the finish line
If it doesn’t happen this time,,,, it’ll happen again
May aswell rip the bandaid off now imho
Personally,,I think she should not get involved
It’s a grassroots/citizen movement,,,,, she can get involved after
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[Re: KeithC]
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The amount of money Canada is throwing into paying key people to go against the Alberta Separation has to be gigantic.
Keith Math don't lie. Any of the math i seen about a independent albetta makes good sense to me.
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[Re: Norwestalta]
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Well it sounds like the fringe minority might not be as small as some are led to beleive. Hour waits and block long line ups to sign the referendum petition. If your for or against this i a great way to exercise your democratic right by holding a referendum where each and every ballot cast means something.
Unfortunately the fear mongering of bg bad man with yellow hair is alive and well but no one mentions that Alberta independence isn't a overnight thing. It'll take years and with 2 years left in the Donald's term a lot can change. We'll have President Vance for eight years and by then the commies should be cinvicted and in prison.
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Well it sounds like the fringe minority might not be as small as some are led to beleive. Hour waits and block long line ups to sign the referendum petition. If your for or against this i a great way to exercise your democratic right by holding a referendum where each and every ballot cast means something.
Unfortunately the fear mongering of bg bad man with yellow hair is alive and well but no one mentions that Alberta independence isn't a overnight thing. It'll take years and with 2 years left in the Donald's term a lot can change. We'll have President Vance for eight years and by then the commies should be cinvicted and in prison. …he’ll lose … and even if he did happen to win .. he wouldn’t do crap … this country is lost
Insert profound nonsense here
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[Re: spjones]
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Obviously it’s impossible to see the future,,
But in the past, when this has happened,,,Sweden/norway,,czechoslvakia,,,
It only took months,,,not years
It could happen pretty quickly,,, if it happens at all
We’re about to find out
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Savell, it's not lost exactly it's just bought by another country What one?
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, & I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve
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Savell, it's not lost exactly it's just bought by another country What one? I'm not allowed to say on here
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01/20/26 09:31 PM
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Just coming back and I've got ti say as a 54 year old Albertan that it makes me proud to see the turnout of the different age groups. It restores some faith that the next generations are paying attention.
I'm unsure why the Donald is thumping his chest about greenland. He has a agreement dated years ago that agrees to the US of A to establish a military base there and after a generation od war I'd be hesitant to send my sions or daughters overseas for something so trivial
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You're obviously a lot closer to the situation than I am so I am not going to argue with you, but I have spent a lot of time in Manitoba, Sask and Ontario, and everyone I've met who lives outside the larger cities in Manitoba and Sask and everyone in Northwest Ontario are soooo ready to cut themselves off from being yanked around by the urban liberals. That’s probably just the kinda crowd your around when up here. Mb splitting is dead and anyone who thinks Ab would want us is on glue…..lol. We’re a “have not” province. Do we like it, no, but we deal with it…….lol. Same thing when I go to Mn. I think “how is this a dem state?”, but I haven’t been through Minni since I was 13yrs old. There’s just good people where I hang out down south.
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You're obviously a lot closer to the situation than I am so I am not going to argue with you, but I have spent a lot of time in Manitoba, Sask and Ontario, and everyone I've met who lives outside the larger cities in Manitoba and Sask and everyone in Northwest Ontario are soooo ready to cut themselves off from being yanked around by the urban liberals. That’s probably just the kinda crowd your around when up here. Mb splitting is dead and anyone who thinks Ab would want us is on glue…..lol. We’re a “have not” province. Do we like it, no, but we deal with it…….lol. Same thing when I go to Mn. I think “how is this a dem state?”, but I haven’t been through Minni since I was 13yrs old. There’s just good people where I hang out down south. States are going to have to develop voting systems based on the electoral college system. Tweaked of course. Minnesota is a prime example of a small compression of populace imposing too much weight on the rest. The participation trophy/non reality mindset is becoming the norm to the detriment of this country, Canada, and many others. Osky
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Just coming back and I've got ti say as a 54 year old Albertan that it makes me proud to see the turnout of the different age groups. It restores some faith that the next generations are paying attention.
I'm unsure why the Donald is thumping his chest about greenland. He has a agreement dated years ago that agrees to the US of A to establish a military base there and after a generation od war I'd be hesitant to send my sions or daughters overseas for something so trivial
Trivial??? You gotta quit listening to the liberal news , There are Underlying reasons that US the public will never realize. Its a long term Chess game and we aren't privy to the Rules
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Just coming back and I've got ti say as a 54 year old Albertan that it makes me proud to see the turnout of the different age groups. It restores some faith that the next generations are paying attention.
I'm unsure why the Donald is thumping his chest about greenland. He has a agreement dated years ago that agrees to the US of A to establish a military base there and after a generation od war I'd be hesitant to send my sions or daughters overseas for something so trivial
Trivial??? You gotta quit listening to the liberal news , There are Underlying reasons that US the public will never realize. Its a long term Chess game and we aren't privy to the Rules I think the "rules" are being made up as things progress.
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Just coming back and I've got ti say as a 54 year old Albertan that it makes me proud to see the turnout of the different age groups. It restores some faith that the next generations are paying attention.
I'm unsure why the Donald is thumping his chest about greenland. He has a agreement dated years ago that agrees to the US of A to establish a military base there and after a generation od war I'd be hesitant to send my sions or daughters overseas for something so trivial
I can tell which news you listen to. Trump or anyone in his admin. HAVE NOT said anything about sending troops to take over.
Just the right amount of whelm.
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Maybe not flat out said it but sure sending hints that it is a option. Back to the separation movement. Had a great meeting on Friday. Common theme is independence. Becoming 51st state is not a option due to the divisive topic. There was a lady speaking that was very knowledgeable and to the point. Here is a link to her and a video explaining how the west has been rode hard and put away wet. www.kathyflett.ca Check it out to understand why independence is a must
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[Re: spjones]
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Civil War a commin', but it will be very polite!
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There won’t be any violence
But,,,,,
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - President John F. Kennedy, March 13 1961
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Got another 1000 go fast but don't hit very hard and 500 hit hard but don't go very fast coming in the event civility don't work. I'm kind of partial to the ol school way to independence. This legal independence talks take to long and to be truthful I'm getting very tired of being labeled as a racist and would like to dole out a little bit of justice to those that slander.
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[Re: Norwestalta]
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Got another 1000 go fast but don't hit very hard and 500 hit hard but don't go very fast coming in the event civility don't work. I'm kind of partial to the ol school way to independence. This legal independence talks take to long and to be truthful I'm getting very tired of being labeled as a racist and would like to dole out a little bit of justice to those that slander. I sincerely hope you get your freedom from Canada. It's not fair that the rest of Canada rapes Alberta of their wealth and stifles their freedom Keith
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[Re: spjones]
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Certainly not something I’ld be posting about on the internet,,,
The federalist are going to be looking for reason's to take it up another notch
If the Canadian government knows the people of Alberta are serious enough about gaining their freedom, to use force, they are more likely to agree to it. Otherwise, there's absolutely no good reason for Canada to let the people of Alberta gain their freedom, besides it the right thing to do. Sic semper tyrannis. Keith
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[Re: spjones]
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Certainly not something I’ld be posting about on the internet,,,
The federalist are going to be looking for reason's to take it up another notch
And this is why we have to leave. Not saying your a sheeple but we've got to many sheeple and not enough wolves No one should be fearful of the government. In fact it should be the government that should be afraid.
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[Re: Norwestalta]
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Certainly not something I’ld be posting about on the internet,,,
The federalist are going to be looking for reason's to take it up another notch
And this is why we have to leave. Not saying your a sheeple but we've got to many sheeple and not enough wolves No one should be fearful of the government. In fact it should be the government that should be afraid. We have our share of sheep down here as well.
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[Re: Norwestalta]
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One thing I'm learning more of is Alberta history. I don't remember learning in school that 600000 Americans come up from the Midwest. Farmers and cattlemen. Those that have been to Alberta and other provinces might of noticed we're a little different from the rest in terms of attitudes and freedom minded. I think this contributed to us being the way we are. Thanks. American Cousins. … I went a couple times for work … got along well with the people there
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[Re: Savell]
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One thing I'm learning more of is Alberta history. I don't remember learning in school that 600000 Americans come up from the Midwest. Farmers and cattlemen. Those that have been to Alberta and other provinces might of noticed we're a little different from the rest in terms of attitudes and freedom minded. I think this contributed to us being the way we are. Thanks. American Cousins. … I went a couple times for work … got along well with the people there I follow your post coz. I think we'd get along just fine. Our beer might get you pisster quicker but you know that already.
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[Re: spjones]
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Norwest,,,,, we don’t need folks saying stupid stuff on the internet
That’s why I said,,,,,
but,,,,,
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Same can be said about the rural people of most states, especially New York......jk Can include Eastern WA and Eastern OR in the states with rural folks unhappy about being ruled by urbanite liberals Yep
The Vink for chief moderator....night shift ...11pm- 5am best coast time zone.....Free Marty
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[Re: spjones]
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Norwest,,,,, we don’t need folks saying stupid stuff on the internet
That’s why I said,,,,,
but,,,,,
Well I do think the shtf moment is coming. Be prepared.
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[Re: spjones]
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Norwest,,,,, we don’t need folks saying stupid stuff on the internet
That’s why I said,,,,,
but,,,,,
How do you get the word out to the masses if you don’t use the internet?
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[Re: spjones]
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If I remember correctly… when I was over there … the Albertans weren’t fond of Quebecans … pakis … and especially newfies lol
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[Re: spjones]
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There’s a way to do it, but some of you are really waaaay out there…..lol
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[Re: spjones]
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Shakey,,,,,No shortage of bias in that article Fill us in. Are those not facts or is he leaving important detail out? It’s hard to say what’s going on unless you get it from someone outside looking in. You’ll get different answers depending on how that person leans.
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[Re: Savell]
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If I remember correctly… when I was over there … the Albertans weren’t fond of Quebecans … pakis … and especially newfies lol Lol. Still not fond of them and pretty hard to beat a pil in a glass bottle right outta the ice
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[Re: spjones]
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It’s diffently has a federal bias
They try to blame trumpster’s tariffs as reason for increasing sediment,,,
Tommy the commie’s petition didn’t require photo ID,,,,, anyone could sign it, more than once,,,
The quote from Mitch,,,, and then “raises questions,,,”
The stay from the court is a nothing burger,,,,
The negative economic impacts of the separation movement is total bull sh t
Tombe is a self proclaimed federalist,,,,,
I’m actually surprised they didn’t get Jason Kenney in on the article,,,lol
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[Re: spjones]
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Shakey,,,,,No shortage of bias in that article Seems pretty spot on to me. Unsure where the polls were done but there'll be different results from different areas. From what I hear is the ucp is about 60% FOR independence. I think there is a whole bunch of closet separatists. Lukasics petition didn't involve the scrutiny that stay free alberta has had. Many people left mad because of mail box as a address and didn't return to sign. I don't know how many people I know that are for separation but I are definitely against and 2 fence sitters. Maybe the other dozens are lieing that they are for? The hutterites are behind it. Sounds like many of the church groups are behind it. One thing that amazes me is I don't know one veteran that is against independence. 12/12 veterans including myself are for. They all have pretty much the same story that the Canada we stood for is no longer the Canada of today. Just got done a meeting with Mitch Sylvester and due to the natives injunction we will be buying membership in the UCP to have the premier force a referendum. It is also suggested to buy a NDP membership which if everyone does we'll ruin those things.
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[Re: spjones]
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It mentions that petitions are pretty meaningless as they’re too easily manipulated. Same with polls. Having the US as your trading partner? That will not be all roses……lol. I thought he was leaning towards it happening. There’s a lot of negative potential outcomes that are omitted and this guys pretty tame. He does leave out the positive that could happen, maybe he doesn’t see them or does he have to look too hard to find them. That’s not a good sign. It’s BS to some, but it’s hard for someone who’s got skin in the game not to slip their narrative in, and leave important stuff out. I’ve seen too many that completely ignore facts that they know are true, to hang on to a dream and sink with the ship. Even if Quebecs referendum had passed to separate, it would’ve never happened. If any good can come of this, maybe Ottawa will start looking west. Now if BC (not happening), Sask (better chances) and poor ole Mb (never happen) would all talk separation……that’d get some attention in Ottawa.
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I just got back from turkey hunting,,,
I haven’t heard Mitch say that,,,, but it’s not a bad idea
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[Re: spjones]
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Shakey,,,
Nobody thinks it will be easy,,, and all roses
The alternative is very horrific
There are actually no negatives to a independent Alberta
There has yet to be a single reason presented to albertans, on why Alberta should remain in Canada
Citizen led petitions are very powerful in a true democracy
The US won’t be our only trading partner,,,, but it’s certainly our biggest
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So, I've been following this although not very closely. Explain it to me like I am 5. What has to happen from where you are now for Alberta to secede from Canada?
Gotta find a way, a better way, I'd better wait
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you
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[Re: spjones]
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Well, according to AI..... it's a pipe dream. Thought AI might be a tad biased like it is when you ask about American political issues.
Direct answer From where Alberta is today, for secession to actually “succeed” in a lawful, durable way, you’d need:
A court‑proof, clear referendum with a strong Yes.
Federal recognition of that clarity and entry into good‑faith negotiations.
Resolution of Indigenous treaty rights and territorial issues, likely with First Nations at the table as full parties.
Constitutional amendments passed by Parliament and enough provinces (possibly all).
A comprehensive separation treaty covering assets, borders, debt, citizenship, and institutions.
International recognition, starting with Canada itself.
Anything short of that is more “constitutional crisis and long‑term limbo” than clean break.
Gotta find a way, a better way, I'd better wait
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…. We’ve tossed it around a few times in Texas to no avail
… now we’re outnumbered by Mescins so it’ll never happen
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It’s very doable,,,,, definitely not a pipe dream
Newfound land joined confederation with 52% vote,,,,
Negotiations won’t be problem,,,,,, we’re not asking for permission
The FN’s would be much better off in a independent Alberta
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[Re: rvsask]
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Whatever happens, the most interesting thing I’ve read on the post regards the Hutterites. I am not sure what to think regarding that, I guess I’m skepticsl as Hutterites are pacifists that avoid politics and voting and strongly believe in separation of church and state. As strong pacifists they are more worried about their communal life and the freedom to live the way in which they do. I personally can’t see them wanting to jump off the train that has allowed them to accumulate massive land ownership and wealth. I maybe all wet here but in the US presidential election many Amish in PA voted for Trump. I think the Amish are like the Huts for the same reasons as you mention. As I understand it they were convinced to vote due to many of the Lefts positions that fly in the face of their beliefs not to mention the lefts open disdain for religious people. left = Democrat
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The Hutterites are very freedom oriented and are all on board Alberta independence
Even they can see the writing on the wall, as far as the future of Canada
I suspect Canada making it a crime to say from the pulpit that gay and transgender is a sin, has an effect on their thinking. So much for religious freedom.
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I’m not sure if some of you know what Hutterites actually are……lol. To sway them to the voting booth will take a lot more than fear mongering. Shakey,,,
Nobody thinks it will be easy,,, and all roses
The alternative is very horrific
There are actually no negatives to a independent Alberta
There has yet to be a single reason presented to albertans, on why Alberta should remain in Canada
Citizen led petitions are very powerful in a true democracy
The US won’t be our only trading partner,,,, but it’s certainly our biggest
If you can’t see not one negative, I don’t believe you’re looking at the big picture. In the end, I think this will be good, with the west getting some attention.
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Not sure if the Hutterite comment was meant for me?
I can assure you that they are supporters,,,
Point out one negative,,,
Give one legit reason Alberta should remain in Canada?
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So, I've been following this although not very closely. Explain it to me like I am 5. What has to happen from where you are now for Alberta to secede from Canada? That one article someone posted says: Despite some new momentum, the independence movement faces significant obstacles. Dueling petitions reflect a gap in the relative popularity of the two movements. Stay Free Alberta launched a pro-independence petition in January of 2026, requiring a minimum threshold of 177,732 signatures. The anti-independence group Forever Canada launched a petition in Autumn 2025 with a minimum threshold of 293,976 signatures.
Forever Canada is believed to have garnered some 438,568 verified signatures in the sign-up period, where Stay Free Alberta reportedly just made its threshold – though this remains unconfirmed pending legal challenges. Success isn’t assured yet though given that a significant portion of the signatures are ultimately invalidated in any petition process.
Further, on April 10, the Court of King’s Bench issued a stay after a challenge from the Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation and the Blackfoot Confederacy. The legal action freezes the certification of signatures for a month on the grounds that secession without consultation of First Nations violates their treaty rights.
The CEO of Alberta Prosperity Project, Mitch Sylvestre, responded to a poll indicating 26% of Albertans supported independence by saying: “Polls are irrelevant, as far as we’re concerned here. We’re not paying attention to them”, thereby raising questions about the credibility of their organization, and how realistic they are being about their goals.
Seems like they got their hands full.
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Not sure if the Hutterite comment was meant for me?
I can assure you that they are supporters,,,
Point out one negative,,,
Give one legit reason Alberta should remain in Canada? Yes they sure are. Had ome of their leaders at meeting couple weeks ago. Seems to be other religions groups getting involved and hosting meeting. Funny how someone 2 provinces over knows so much about what's going on. Knows more then those involved. Amazing.
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[Re: OhioBoy]
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So, I've been following this although not very closely. Explain it to me like I am 5. What has to happen from where you are now for Alberta to secede from Canada? That one article someone posted says: Despite some new momentum, the independence movement faces significant obstacles. Dueling petitions reflect a gap in the relative popularity of the two movements. Stay Free Alberta launched a pro-independence petition in January of 2026, requiring a minimum threshold of 177,732 signatures. The anti-independence group Forever Canada launched a petition in Autumn 2025 with a minimum threshold of 293,976 signatures.
Forever Canada is believed to have garnered some 438,568 verified signatures in the sign-up period, where Stay Free Alberta reportedly just made its threshold – though this remains unconfirmed pending legal challenges. Success isn’t assured yet though given that a significant portion of the signatures are ultimately invalidated in any petition process.
Further, on April 10, the Court of King’s Bench issued a stay after a challenge from the Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation and the Blackfoot Confederacy. The legal action freezes the certification of signatures for a month on the grounds that secession without consultation of First Nations violates their treaty rights.
The CEO of Alberta Prosperity Project, Mitch Sylvestre, responded to a poll indicating 26% of Albertans supported independence by saying: “Polls are irrelevant, as far as we’re concerned here. We’re not paying attention to them”, thereby raising questions about the credibility of their organization, and how realistic they are being about their goals.
Seems like they got their hands full. She's a uphill battle the whole way but the reasons are valid and the math dont lie.
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[Re: spjones]
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I know there's many on here that support independence and hopefully you can help us in Alberta achieve it. If you can buy a membership to our Alberta Prosperity it would be much appreciated if not I understand and thanks JOIN THE PROJECT - Alberta Prosperity Project https://share.google/vkoKfbyPiIwZShoIo
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